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Ashenshugra
27-09-2007, 03:27 PM
Ive always had problems with the blizz dler. It will dl for a bit then blue screen of death. I just restart and continue. The patch installed successfully. I launch game, choose toon and enter then I get blue screen of death. I had played the night before patch no problems. But after patch I cant get into the game. Ive ran ad and anti virus. Ive shut off all back ground apps. Ive un and reinstalled the game 2x. Ive updated sound and video. I looked for a bios update, none available. I tried windows go back a few times.
I have an asus a7n8xe delux mobo, directx 9, radeon x1600 video card, sound blaster audigy sound card. 2 gigs of ram. raptor hd.

The blue screen has some vague message about a driver. I can install on another hd , but still want to get this other issue sorted out.

any thoughts?

Kalos
27-09-2007, 03:34 PM
What version of Windows are you using? A blue screen on XP is next to unheard of. It would tend to indicate either some very bad software programming (dodgy drivers) or defective hardware (cheap ram with bad sectors in it for example).

Ashenshugra
27-09-2007, 03:46 PM
What version of Windows are you using? A blue screen on XP is next to unheard of. It would tend to indicate either some very bad software programming (dodgy drivers) or defective hardware (cheap ram with bad sectors in it for example).

windows xp professional. Very good crucial paired set of ram. I will add that when I got the new radeon drivers the game says no suitable display adapter was found. So Im using the old drivers which worked just fine the night before the patch. I dont have any cheap off brand hardware at all. And it worked just fine until the patch. Also even though I have briefly been able to get a character on screen I sitll have to accept the eula each time I start the game.
I dont really want to reformat not knowing if it will help anyhow. I wonder if its specific to my set up?

Tunga
27-09-2007, 03:46 PM
The blue screen has some vague message about a driver.Write it down :) .

You could try running MemTest (http://hcidesign.com/memtest/) for a few hours and see if it comes up with anything.

Kalos
27-09-2007, 05:20 PM
It sound like the graphics card might be a bit naff, if it's not working with ATI's drivers well. Who manufactured it?

Tikki
27-09-2007, 05:22 PM
What version of Windows are you using? A blue screen on XP is next to unheard of. It would tend to indicate either some very bad software programming (dodgy drivers) or defective hardware (cheap ram with bad sectors in it for example).


eeeeeeeeeeh!
What about a blue screen on vista? I often get one. And it scares the bagebes out of me.

Kalos
27-09-2007, 05:29 PM
eeeeeeeeeeh!
What about a blue screen on vista? I often get one. And it scares the bagebes out of me.
Vista is new and funny, it bluescreens me too. Very delicate, needs setting up precisely. The 64 bit version is more stable, but it doesn't work very well with 32bit stuff for the most part, and most things are 32 bit, so it doesn't usually end up working so well either.

Ashenshugra
27-09-2007, 09:50 PM
Its a built by ati radeon card. Im gonna put it on another hd when I get home from work and see if it still acts up or no. Ill let you know. thanks for the help guys.

Ashenshugra
28-09-2007, 03:49 AM
Ok, Im thinking I have if figured out. I started swapping hardware and it appears so far that it was my wireless nic.
After my windows install on a different hd it did not pick up the nic. I switched cards and was online immedately. I am dling the update now. No stalls like before. Things are looking good. Wow was the only online game I played. Id get blue screens 2-3 times a week while playing. I can now see how a faulty nic could do that. Loss of data packets and such. But im not playing yet.
yep,it was the wirelss nic.

Kalos
28-09-2007, 01:51 PM
Loss of packets doesn't give bluescreens, just poor signal strength. It must have been a really naff wireless adaptor for it to be screwing up system stability, most likely poorly designed drivers for it.

Phluke
28-09-2007, 07:19 PM
I am having the same exact problem. Except, I am using Vista, and my Wireless card is a Belkin wireless card. I just updated my PC to Vista this past week, and now am installing WOW for the 4x, for other reasons as well. Not sure if its my NVIDEA card, or the Belkin wireless card, but every thing worked fine until I either installed Vista, or installed WOW with the new 2.2.0 patch. I guess I will just have to troubleshoot that problem myself. Although, sense I have installed Vista, I have been getting this strange error from my Belkin wireless card, saying "dll not registered and might not work correctly". The blue screen with error report after selecting my toon, and hitting "ENTER WORLD", is when you actually will connect...I think. I am able to get on the internet, but I think its a little more technical than that when it comes to connecting with WOW. So I am looking up other peoples error reports on this similar problem, then trying to find out what drivers I need. If I fix it, I will report back. Good luck, and do the same.

Kalos
28-09-2007, 07:30 PM
Try reinstalling Vista, and only using bare essentials. Use your wired connections, not a cheap wireless dongle. No doubt the wireless drivers were designed and made for XP, not for Vista, and are screwing it up. In my experience with Vista, don't use any drivers or peripherals that you cannot garentee compatibility, and if mucked up drivers do end up on the computer, reinstall Windows. Don't bother trying to slice it out, it'd be a butchered job at best.

To be honest, you'd have been better sticking with XP. When I made my second, long term Vista rig, it was on all new parts I knew were certified Vista Compatible. Nothing was guessed, even had to ditch some good things like a USB Webcam and a Scanner, but if they were installed, thier drivers would result in a significant amount of instability. Things have to say "Vista certified" on them before you even consider allowing them to touch the system.

The following companies have done a poor job with Vista compatibility:
Canon
Linksys
D-link

They'll probably try and sue me for saying that, but it's thier own fault. I'd expect companies of thier size to do a better job with drivers. Creative did an excellent job, my nine year old sound card has 64 bit Vista drivers made for it, believe it or not they decided to put in the effort to support something that old. While it's not useful in the fact next to nobody uses cards that old, I'd expect other companies with far less older products not to be having such an impossible time getting those drivers made for thier products. Had to throw away a two year old scanner simply because Canon couldn't be bothered to create the proper drivers. But Creative amazed me, good show indeed.

Tunga
28-09-2007, 07:36 PM
Interestingly my Vista BSODed for the first time today, and it was my (installed but unused) wireless NIC that caused it. Strange. I admit that use of the word "interestingly" is perhaps somewhat inaccurate there.

Kalos
28-09-2007, 08:18 PM
To summarise, you have to be very careful about what hardware you choose. Even if it's only a cool little dinky extra, don't bring it anywhere near your computer unless compatibility is assured and iron clad. Its operation status matters not in it's ability to render Vista an instable pile of scrap wobbling about the place. Anything that isn't certain to work shouldn't be allowed to interface with the computer. That goes from network cards and sound cards right down to fancy USB tools like multi coloured mice and pen drives. Absolutely nothing that isn't certified, don't assume that it will work because for the most part it won't do, and worst of all it isn't plain obvious when it does happen, you get random BSODs and they aren't too obvious in their causes. I'd dare say the majority of Vista crashes are down to uncertified hardware, or more specifically thier drivers, which weren't designed for Vista. And as Vista has a new, different approach to driver/OS interaction, having old drivers made for XP isn't a good idea for use on Vista.

Phluke
28-09-2007, 08:51 PM
I appreciate all ya'lls input/opinion/advice. As for me, I am going to go ahead and stick it out with vista, because whether you like it our not it is the future of Microsoft. You can not by a new PC out there with out having to pay extra to put XP on there, because Vista is standard. Yes it is like that candy, some times there sweet, some times there sour. lol There are patches out there for my hardware issues, and if I continue having as many problems as I have been having with Vista. Then I will downgrade back to XP with out a second thought, and throw that son of a ***** Vista out the window. Sorry for the Language, but like I said earlier this is my 4x time install WOW. I am sure it will work today. Thanx

Kalos
28-09-2007, 09:43 PM
I wouldn't say that Vista is necessarily "The future". We all remember ME, that was replaced within 10 months by XP. Now Vienna, that'll be something. And it's only a year and a half away, if the timetable keeps that is. I'd say Vista is going to be the future, for a very very short time. By the time Service Pack 2 comes out for Vista, We'll probably be right around the release of Vienna, which'll practically remove any point to Vista migration, unless you enjoy OS hopping on a regular basis. Sure, if you're buying a new machine get Vista, but if you have a computer right now with XP, there's next to no good reason I can think of in reality to go to Vista. DirectX 10? Most games still are written with DirectX 8 support, let's be serious, DX9 is going to be around for three to four years before it is effectively killed off.

Vista is newer, and it is something that is pressed onto you in new purchases. But volenteerily retrofitting an XP rig to Vista is not something to do for gaming PCs, at least not yet. I established my Vista rig for the family, for thier work, gaming goes to the XP machines most of the time, although the Vista rig has a much better graphics card in it, I don't want to push it into those areas until I have experienced regular operations for quite some time. It's a fanastic machine when it's running, but then there are hidious problems with no cure but to reformat and reinstall Windows Vista from scratch, E.G. A Logitech Webcam and its drivers.