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TheDreamer
05-10-2007, 02:26 PM
Here is my idea: I think WoW needs a Armor Closet - icon which will sit on lower bar right next to the key ring. Up to 2 or 3 complete armor sets (1 for dungeon set, 1 for class set, 1 for resist) with trinkets/weapons/rings should be available with more being purchased later if needed.

This will (1) create another gold sink for Blizzard and (2) it will then provide the character a place to put the armor collected instead of taking up valuable bank space. I know I am having a very difficult time trying to manage the limited space available, and this closet would really pay off I think.

Primed
05-10-2007, 02:33 PM
How would it create another gold sink? Why do you still have a resistance set? Whats the difference between a dungeon and class set?

You can have 164 bank slots, and 96 bag slots for a total of 260 bag slots, even more if one of your bags is a profession/class sepcific bag.

Why would you need more than that?

TheDreamer
05-10-2007, 08:58 PM
(1) It makes the character more likely to survive and is much easier on healers while battling a boss if you do wear the resist sets.
(2) It takes a long time to gather your Tier sets(this is what I meant by class set) and dungeon sets so you might not want to get rid of them.
(3) I still have my fire resist stuff in case I ever get to do Onyxia or Naxx and MC again. (4) It would be a small gold sink cause I believe there are characters that don't have enough room to store their armor/trinket/weapon sets now and have to do a shuffle to store them along with profession materials also.

rgirty
05-10-2007, 09:12 PM
If they charge you 5% to open your closet then make you wait an hour to get items out of it...wait, thats the auction house.

moopy
08-10-2007, 01:32 PM
How would it create another gold sink? Why do you still have a resistance set? Whats the difference between a dungeon and class set?

Depending on class, you need to have several resist sets when you start raidng in earnest- especially if you're a tank. Doesn't mean I like the idea though, as extra bags for everything is pandering a little too much.. Whatever next, a minipet sock?

TheDreamer
10-10-2007, 09:28 PM
Whatever next, a minipet sock?

HAHA! ya! However, I'm not one of those people who collect these - only have 2 - both from LBRS. But I've read that some people have them all.

How would it create another gold sink?

It may have been awhile for you, but you have to pay for all bank space past the original slots. That is the gold sink.

moopy
11-10-2007, 02:13 PM
HAHA! ya! However, I'm not one of those people who collect these - only have 2 - both from LBRS. But I've read that some people have them all.

You do have to wonder how they find the bag space. My shaman has to maintain three gear sets (one for each spec), and even my hunter has a bank stuffed with engineering junk, situational gear, stockpiled consumables and whatnot.

That said, all of my toons, on either faction, have a mechanical squirrel. Every since my first priest got one, I haven't wanted to be without :-)

TheDreamer
11-10-2007, 09:17 PM
You do have to wonder how they find the bag space. My shaman has to maintain three gear sets (one for each spec), and even my hunter has a bank stuffed with engineering junk, situational gear, stockpiled consumables and whatnot.

This is exactly the kind of evidence needed to convince Blizzard that this would be a needed resource. So - keep it coming!


Now to hope that the developers actually will read this idea and then take action! Everybody pray, light candles, or do your favorite spell.

moopy
12-10-2007, 01:24 PM
This is exactly the kind of evidence needed to convince Blizzard that this would be a needed resource. So - keep it coming!

I don't agree, sorry to be awkward :-) It's just part of the resource management in the game. If I was given more space, it'd just fill up with more "essential" gear. Part of the skillset for getting a character set for a long raid is loading up with all the consumables, armour changes and whatnot you need, neatly packed in your bags and prepped to go. It'd be dull if everything that requires thought were ironed flat.

TheDreamer
12-10-2007, 08:46 PM
Well, I disagree for the reason of what you stated 'resource management'. I find that being in PST is very hard to get everything I needed situated and bought before I was required to show up for a raid. Not in a guild currently that raids however, it probably will happen. So it is another way to save armor sets without taking up valuable bank space.

Primed
12-10-2007, 08:54 PM
I have about 20 minutes from the time I get home from work until I am summoned to a raid. In that time, I can see what reagents AI have, what reagents I need, what armor I have, what armor I need, then go buy anything I still need and get it made.

With the usage of Itemrack, so long as the gear is in the bags, it doesn't matter how its arranged, and consumables are all on my UI.

The only thing this has going is a money sink....but even then, the cost per slot had better be 1k+ gold...or else it really isn't a money sink.

Wintrow
15-10-2007, 12:27 PM
well, i for one always have my dps, tanking (actually mostly same set with minor differences) AND my healing set with me. On top of that I have the leather I'm collecting, quest items, potions, drinks, ZF-mallet, ...

In the end I got maybe 10 slots of the 80 free for the loot that drops, so I end up trashing the junk that'd net a nice sum at the vendor for the greens that I wanna AH.

I tried leaving stuff at the bank like my healing set, but then I lose TONS of time when I DO need it because i'd have to go get it first.

And even if I'd leave it at the bank and went and got it once I got into a group for an instance, i'd still be out of room in a heartbeat in there because again, I'd have two sets taking up precious bagspace.

It's also extremely annoying that all those Quest items take up precious space. You're always out of room when you finally kill that boss whose head/claw/ring/arm you need. Again, trashing loot or a stack of cloth that'd net me a nice sum.

IMO the only thing taking up bag space should be:
non-soulbound gear and items that you haven't added to a gear set
soulbound gear that you haven't added to a gear set
consumables

As for as the gear set/armor closet thing:
L10 - L50: hybrids start building their second set so: 2 slots for free, rest is purchased
>L50: hybrids diversify further: 3 slots for free, rest is purchased (if you already purchased a 3rd slot you get a 4th for free)
an extra pvp-slot can be purchased with honor points.

not being a hybrid doesn't mean you don't need slots. Only class I can think of that doesn't need gear sets (beyond pvp-sets) are rogues and mages. But even they can go for mana-efficient sets, max crit, max sustained, etc.

TheDreamer
17-10-2007, 09:06 PM
My sentiments exactly!
My lvl 70 rogue doesn't carry around that much extra armor - not raiding atm

However, my cloth wearers (lvl 70 priest and soon to be there warlock) are gonna need to carry an extra set all the time.

So I'd really like to see this in effect.

Also - if your toon has a gathering profession and a bag in a space to go with it (herb bag, mining bag, enchanting bag, etc) then you in effect have deleted a large number of available bag spaces due to your profession

Which is another excellent supportive reason right there.



IMO the only thing taking up bag space should be:
non-soulbound gear and items that you haven't added to a gear set
soulbound gear that you haven't added to a gear set
consumables

As for as the gear set/armor closet thing:
L10 - L50: hybrids start building their second set so: 2 slots for free, rest is purchased
>L50: hybrids diversify further: 3 slots for free, rest is purchased (if you already purchased a 3rd slot you get a 4th for free)
an extra pvp-slot can be purchased with honor points.

not being a hybrid doesn't mean you don't need slots. Only class I can think of that doesn't need gear sets (beyond pvp-sets) are rogues and mages. But even they can go for mana-efficient sets, max crit, max sustained, etc.

moopy
18-10-2007, 04:36 AM
Well, I disagree for the reason of what you stated 'resource management'. I find that being in PST is very hard to get everything I needed situated and bought before I was required to show up for a raid. Not in a guild currently that raids however, it probably will happen. So it is another way to save armor sets without taking up valuable bank space.

Ah, the trick is to do basic prep before logging out the day before. When I log in, my shammy is repaired, has bags full of pots, flasks, gear changes for certain encounters, and all other needful things. Actually, the spare gear is only about one bag- the consumables account for about two and a half bags :-)

TheDreamer
18-10-2007, 08:54 PM
Ah, the trick is to do basic prep before logging out the day before. :-)

Actually, I did do that sometimes so I know that does work.

That is until the casual raiding guild turned serious - by increasing the required raid days from 3 to 5 or 6 and became day after day after day. That became really tough to deal with. I couldn't farm for the materials for the potions with my herb/alch etc.

moopy
19-10-2007, 01:17 AM
Actually, I did do that sometimes so I know that does work.

That is until the casual raiding guild turned serious - by increasing the required raid days from 3 to 5 or 6 and became day after day after day. That became really tough to deal with. I couldn't farm for the materials for the potions with my herb/alch etc.

Hmm, well, one saving grace is Shattrath Flask of Mighty Restoration and all the similar flasks. You turn in the marks which drop in TK/SSC etc. for lovely flasks, which saves a fortune. I tend to beg a few of these from the RL, and only actually hit consumables when I absolutely have to. However, it can get pricey, especially before your gear is decent, when you have to ride cooldowns..

That said, I have to admit that since I chose to go crazy multi target healing tonight, I was basically riding pot cooldowns all through a boss fight earlier, which is rare for me- but was using those free TK mana pot thingies..