cross-dressing

[TheDreamer]

About a month ago, my lvl 70 alliance rogue was in IF doing the AH/mail thing and this Draenai shammy decides to red-line my choice of armor (I had a friend make me a set of heavy clefthoof armor cause I like the extra stamina and armor=livability for a rogue). She goes non-stop for 5-10 minutes.

And - there has been 3 more times people just couldn't help themselves but to let me know they think I'd be much happier in their choice of armor (doesn't always drop what you need - ever come across that answer?)

My question: why would this armor set be available for people to wear if it 'is strictly a druid armor set and rogues just shouldn't get caught dead in it'?

Also - I found a very informative dictionary-like website with a huge database for World of Warcraft and what do I find? (I know I'm not supposed to link so I decided to just leave the name out to avoid the problem). A table with the heavy clefthoof listed under the stamina column!

Not to mention - in a SLABS run last night, I heard that same kind of opinion again and ironically - the gnome mage was wearing a warlock tunic! Didn't want to point that out to the druid dissing my armor!

I guessing there has got to be alot of cross-armor (and trinket and weapon) wearing in this game because some of the stats can be used for more than 1 class. Just watch a rare trinket drop and see the arguments start on 'that is a warrior weapon so don't roll'.

Sorry for the rant! I guess I got blasted with 1 too many opinions and I was looking for what everybody else thinks.

[clevins]

Well..... That set IS more for entry level druid tanks in that it's all about stam and def. CAN you wear it? Sure. Are you maximizing your rogue doing so? Well, not by most measures since it's got +def, +stam and yellow and blue sockets. Are there better things for a rogue? Yes, IMO. The fel leather set for hands, legs and feet and something like Chestguard of the Dark Stalker for the vest.

All that said... if you like it and you're cool with the tradeoffs (and know about them so you made your choice in an informed manner)... do what you like.

[SLi]

I can't be bothered what people think, I play the game to enjoy myself not to make others happy. (Note: People that think you must play/wear/spec what 'they' say)

If they don't like my gear/spec - well they can, well you know, take a hike (being polite here).

It would be a boring game if everyone was the same, thats the good thing about this game, and what makes it fun - virtually unlimited combinations of specs/gear/play styles.

(AN: When I was 60 I wore the Warlocks D1 Chest piece :P)

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

I never overly concern myself with gear, and definitely not other peoples' opinions on it. I find gear that works for me, in order to accomplish what I need, and that's that. To me, gear is the most transitory, and "throw away" stuff in WoW (well, second to the consumables), since all it takes is a new armor set to be released, more content to be added, up to the grand amount of a new expansion being released, and all of the "best" gear gets thrown aside for new stuff. People do tend to get in quite a fit about gear in this game, and some think they are actually helping you with their "suggestions" (even unsolicited). I'd say take anything they say with a grain of salt, and use what works for you. If you like that set, stick with it. My Druid had the rogue Dungeon 1 armor set for a long time.

[clevins]

I took it as the OP knowing that good rogue stats were, knowing what he wanted to do with his armor and deciding to go with that.

The stats certainly aren't rogue optimal... and there are better peices out the for a rogue - but it's HIS choice.

To me the difference is between someone who makes a gear choice consciously and someone who does so without having a clue. Sadly, there are enough of the latter that the people in the first group sometimes get mistaken for them. The other thing is that the set he went with actually might be a decent PvP starter set for a rogue.

[inkmva]

The only people's gear choice I'm concerned about is my raiding guildmates, everyone else just brighten up my day and, if amusing enough, armory links will be passed around for laughs and giggles.

Whatever makes you happy though. If you where in my group with highly suboptimal dps gear you're suboptimal for the job taken and, as such, would probably be looking at being replaced sooner or later if things didn't work out.

Wow is simply a game of numbers, if your numbers don't add up someone elses will.

[det]

(I had a friend make me a set of heavy clefthoof armor cause I like the extra stamina and armor=livability for a rogue).

It's not like TheDreamer ninja'ed a drop. He had this armor made! Had a Paladin roll on the cloth bracers from maiden, now THAT pissed me off.

His mats, his choice.

Warlock in mage set or vice versa...why not. You never know if it would have been sharded otherwise and wasn't an upgrade for the player...

[inkmva]

On "oh ok why not it's getting sharded anyway" I know we have at least one warlock with a King's Defender running about. Got another lock with the Terestian's Stranglestaff; another one of those "ah well why not" moments.

This is different though as it's solely for fun and these items are only equiped to have a laugh, not to play; clearly not the case for the original poster here.

I have to stress that people are naturally allowed to use whatever gear they choose (as long as they're not taking them from someone else who actually get some benefit..) but if you gear highly sub-optimal you'll have to realize people might just mock you a bit.

As I said; wow is a numbers game.

[Zachariah]

Damn, I thought this thread was going to be about male toons running around in dresses!

[Kugan]

This is the same as real life. If you want to cross dress, it’s fine. But don’t expect other people not to comment on it.

How do you kill anything? :grin:

[inkmva]

This is the same as real life. If you want to cross dress, it’s fine. But don’t expect other people not to comment on it.



^^ this. Best way to put it so far :cool:

[Wintrow]

He tanks 'em

[moopy]

Quite, wear whatever armour you fancy, but don't be hurt if you're laughed at, or removed from groups if it's too odd- like the legendary hunter in shammy spelldamage gear with the scattergun talent trees.

[Kugan]

...- like the legendary hunter in shammy spelldamage gear with the scattergun talent trees.

But... but it increased the damage of my Six Demon Bag!!!1!

[moopy]

Oh, don't. I recently got really tempted to buy one of those for my shammy, for old times' snake. I still remember the hilarity when my priest sheeped herself in UBRS, after I decided to pop the trinket in Drakki's general direction :-)

[dgrampa]

About a month ago, my lvl 70 alliance rogue was in IF doing the AH/mail thing and this Draenai shammy decides to red-line my choice of armor (I had a friend make me a set of heavy clefthoof armor cause I like the extra stamina and armor=livability for a rogue). She goes non-stop for 5-10 minutes.

And - there has been 3 more times people just couldn't help themselves but to let me know they think I'd be much happier in their choice of armor (doesn't always drop what you need - ever come across that answer?)

My question: why would this armor set be available for people to wear if it 'is strictly a druid armor set and rogues just shouldn't get caught dead in it'?

Also - I found a very informative dictionary-like website with a huge database for World of Warcraft and what do I find? (I know I'm not supposed to link so I decided to just leave the name out to avoid the problem). A table with the heavy clefthoof listed under the stamina column!

Not to mention - in a SLABS run last night, I heard that same kind of opinion again and ironically - the gnome mage was wearing a warlock tunic! Didn't want to point that out to the druid dissing my armor!

I guessing there has got to be alot of cross-armor (and trinket and weapon) wearing in this game because some of the stats can be used for more than 1 class. Just watch a rare trinket drop and see the arguments start on 'that is a warrior weapon so don't roll'.

Sorry for the rant! I guess I got blasted with 1 too many opinions and I was looking for what everybody else thinks.

You CAN wear +stamina cloth gear. Does that mean if it drops, you will, just because it has more stamina?

[TheDreamer]

well, I did get some feedback which has been great! I personally won't offer up any opinions about characters and whatever armor they are wearing - I call that none of my business. It would not be worth my time and energy to deal with the argument. And no - I won't roll on a cloth item unless it's a group thing that we decide is vendor loot cause no one wants/needs it.

I'm probably gonna keep this set for awhile because the rogue Assassination set doesn't seem to be dropping any faster than the Shadowcraft set did. I've been thru SLABS 6 times for legs and hasn't dropped yet.

[Kugan]

well, I did get some feedback which has been great! I personally won't offer up any opinions about characters and whatever armor they are wearing - I call that none of my business. It would not be worth my time and energy to deal with the argument. And no - I won't roll on a cloth item unless it's a group thing that we decide is vendor loot cause no one wants/needs it.

I'm probably gonna keep this set for awhile because the rogue Assassination set doesn't seem to be dropping any faster than the Shadowcraft set did. I've been thru SLABS 6 times for legs and hasn't dropped yet.

Yes and no. When I see someone overrun by mobs, I can say: “He should have been more careful, it’s none of my business” and just leave him. Or I can sprint in and save his life.

When I see someone with strange gear, I can say: “He should read up about it on the internet, it’s none of my business” and post his armory link here for everyone to laugh at (it has happened). Or I can point out that he has strange gear in a polite manner.

As has been said, do what you wish. But don’t be surprised if nice people try to point you in the right direction, and other people post your armory link somewhere.

[swaldman]

Oh, don't. I recently got really tempted to buy one of those for my shammy, for old times' snake. I still remember the hilarity when my priest sheeped herself in UBRS, after I decided to pop the trinket in Drakki's general direction :-)

It's been nerfed. No longer uses spell dmg bonuses.
I still wear one - I'm a paladin, and it (usually!) provides a ranged pull.
Before 2.2 it would sometimes give me 1.2k fireball crits; now it's a few hundred :-(

[Twoflower]

well, I did get some feedback which has been great! I personally won't offer up any opinions about characters and whatever armor they are wearing - I call that none of my business. It would not be worth my time and energy to deal with the argument.

way to go -.-

you started the thread, in a forum, which is for sharing opinions, talking to each other etc... and now, after 15 people answered your thread, it is "not worth your energy" ?

But on topic, i think everyone who knows a bit about the game, and knows how the different classes should play, also has his opinions about how others should gear up to fill their role. I think it is only fair to tell someone if you see him doing big mistakes in itemisation. It's constructive critisism, or at least it should be. Take it as the good thing it is ment to be.

[moopy]

Flowers,

That outfit really does make your ass look fat, sorry :)

[Twoflower]

THAT was not constructive, you brat :P

[moopy]

So sowwy :)

[xDarkDrifterx]

Do what you want and wear what you want. That being said: Here's a couple unsolictied suggestions (lol) of rogue gear with stam that's crafted (since it sounds like you don't like the randomness of dungeon drops). Grinding mats out is easier for some.

Cobrascale Gloves

Cobrascale Hood

and for the primal strike you'd have to have elemental LW but man it's nice - you'd certainly increase your AP by strides wearing gear that isn't defense laden and that's seriously gimping your damage output.

Primalstrike Vest

(there's also a belt and bracer)

heck even the pvp rewards are nice

Veteran's Leather Belt

and that's not even getting into arena gear . . .

[Kugan]

Do what you want and wear what you want. That being said: Here's a couple unsolictied suggestions (lol) of rogue gear with stam that's crafted (since it sounds like you don't like the randomness of dungeon drops). Grinding mats out is easier for some.

Cobrascale Gloves

Cobrascale Hood

and for the primal strike you'd have to have elemental LW but man it's nice - you'd certainly increase your AP by strides wearing gear that isn't defence. laden.

Primalstrike Vest

(there's also a belt and bracer)

Hush. He can also get a few things through quests that have more stamina than that. But remember that it's none of your business.

[xDarkDrifterx]

Hush. He can also get a few things through quests that have more stamina than that. But remember that it's non of your business.

:grin:

kk, quieting down over here.

:wink:

but, it very much reminded me of this post

http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=402896

not quite the same predicament, but still . . .

[moopy]

Mung,

Was the Munter ever housebroken? Enquiring minds want to know! Another scary poor itemisation post might be found in this thread:

http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4053748

I'd love to see this guy duel the munter..

[TheDreamer]

way to go -.-

you started the thread, in a forum, which is for sharing opinions, talking to each other etc... and now, after 15 people answered your thread, it is "not worth your energy" ?


For clarification purposes, that remark 'not worth my energy' was to be read in conjuction with the previous sentence that included the statement about not offering up opinions about others' armor- which taken by itself does not reflect what I was trying to bring across.

I never said that these answers 'were not worth my energy' only trying to point out others' armor is not worth it to me (and repeatedly replying in this post is a good indication of this).