Switching from scryer to aldor.

[rgirty]

Has anyone out there switched from the scryer faction to the aldor?

If so what was the least enjoyable portion of the switch?

I have all the exalted rewards from the scryer and am changing really for no other reason than the shoulder enchant.

THanks!

[Primed]

Standing at the AH to buy all the rep items to achieve exalted with the new faction.

And the walk to turn said items in.

[Shadowpup]

Can you still use the items?

[rgirty]

I'm pretty sure you can still use the items, but i think there is a pre-cursor when switching that allows you to get back to neutral....

ah yes here it is:

Switching to Aldor

To change your faction from the Scryers to the Aldor to access their crafting recipes (and undo all reputation progress you have made), find Sha'nir, an Aldor in Lower City. She offers a repeatable quest for 8x [Dreadfang Venom Sacs]. Once you are neutral with the Aldor, you may no longer receive this quest. It will take 1344 Dreadfang Venom Sacs to go from completely hated with Aldor to Neutral.

I have seen some of those on sale at the AH.. not 1,344 of them tho!

[Primed]

Just ask your tailoring guildmates to send you all the ones they gather while they are out farming for their tailoring set's Netherweb Spider Silk requirement.

[bwirum]

Why do you want to switch anyway? There's not THAT much difference? And the items are negligible after a while, no?

[Duke Brand]

Why do you want to switch anyway? There's not THAT much difference? And the items are negligible after a while, no?

for a shadow priest you get a lot more benefit from the shoulder enchant from aldor being that spell damage is our #1 stat. Scryers shoulder enchant is more for boosting crit which is minimal damage increase for a sp. Basically 6 spell crit is = to 1 spell damage.

[Shellar]

Are the extra 6 damage *that* important to pay for the Hated-Exalted grind, though? For the same effect, you could exchange two Living Rubies for Crimson Spinels, and on many servers, that would be a much cheaper transaction.

[bwirum]

Excactly. While I realize that the enchant is marginally better at Aldor than Scryer, I don't think that would ever make me go through the tedious grindfest or AHfest it needs.

[Duke Brand]

Are the extra 6 damage *that* important to pay for the Hated-Exalted grind, though? For the same effect, you could exchange two Living Rubies for Crimson Spinels, and on many servers, that would be a much cheaper transaction.

Most shadow preists have their gems all done up with +9 or +12 spell damage gems as it is. So switching gems isn't really fesible. The ultimate quest for a shadow preist is to attain as much spell damage possible. We don't look at crit(well most done), we don't look at int, we don't look at stam.....it's all spell damage. That is all that matters for out stats.

[Shellar]

The ultimate quest for a shadow preist is to attain as much spell damage possible. We don't look at crit(well most done), we don't look at int, we don't look at stam.....it's all spell damage. That is all that matters for out stats.
I am aware of how shadow priests work. I am one, after all.
Most shadow preists have their gems all done up with +9 or +12 spell damage gems as it is. So switching gems isn't really fesible.
According to rgirty's Armory profile, he is very far from the point where the sole remaining possible upgrade is the faction switch. Hence my query.

[Side note: Have you considered the possibility of acquiring the Zandalar enchant? Same +damage bonus as the Aldor one, minus the negligible crit]

[rgirty]

In response to:

Are the extra 6 damage *that* important to pay for the Hated-Exalted grind, though? For the same effect, you could exchange two Living Rubies for Crimson Spinels, and on many servers, that would be a much cheaper transaction.

as well as

Excactly. While I realize that the enchant is marginally better at Aldor than Scryer, I don't think that would ever make me go through the tedious grindfest or AHfest it needs.

When I know that I can get more +dmg at no loss or sacrifice to other stats why not pursue it?

The only answer is that I am just too lazy to do it, which I am not.

I don't pvp to gain pve weapons in the arena because I don't feel like that would be justified for my char I would feel like I cheated if I went and laid down for 10 arena games, I have no desire to arena so I do not.

I don't expect anyone to agree with me, but that is my view on my char.

I want my char to be as good as I can make him, laziness won't stand in my way.

+6 dmg is good, at the same time I can pickup the healing thread recipe as I am a tailor as well, i'll be helping my guild there and not only myself.

Thats my take on it.

Late edit: far from the point where the sole remaining possible upgrade

For my guild progression I can't do any better. I haven't seen a mindblade drop and i explained my pvp weapon pov. I don't know of any other upgrades than belt of blasting, which only 1 person on my server has and he's currently out of vortex from what I understand (charges 2kgold for his 2vortex I supply all other mats for the belt) but I plan to have the belt of blasting asap.

Obtained my crusader card today.

I don't have the ZG rep, i was locked out of 95% of raids pre-tbc also the aldor enchant is slightly better.

[Summër]

I want my char to be as good as I can make him, laziness won't stand in my way.

+6 dmg is good, at the same time I can pickup the healing thread recipe as I am a tailor as well, i'll be helping my guild there and not only myself.

Thats my take on it.

This reminds me a lot of how Osiris put this in his rogue guide. He talks about how people are too cheap to put an enchant on certain things because they're afraid they'll outgear it too quickly or it's too expensive for this "silly blue". You should always strive to be better, only makes the game more fun, and boy do I love that sense of accomplishment. :)

[Duke Brand]

He talks about how people are too cheap to put an enchant on certain things because they're afraid they'll outgear it too quickly or it's too expensive for this "silly blue". You should always strive to be better, only makes the game more fun, and boy do I love that sense of accomplishment. :)

Oh how true that really is.......

[Altaris]

And isn't it always nice to say (and be able to prove) that you were once Exalted with Scryer and are now Exalted with Aldor (or vice versus?)

Rock on RG.

[bwirum]

Hey, by all means, go for it. It'll take a crapload of work and/or gold, but it's certainly doable. Not saying you shouldn't try to be the best that you can be, but for me it was chore enough gaining exalted with the Scryers, I'm not going through that again, not for that meager a gain.

People have done it before and people will most certainly do it again. You'll not be the first, nor the last :smiley:

Of course, you'll get the possibility of more patterns and such, so I guess that should count for something as well. Allthough I think it would be cheaper to just buy the stuff you don't have and sell what you have.

You realize of course you won't be able to use your seer's signet anymore? You could switch it for Violet Signet of the Archmage, but that would lose you some 5 spell damage I believe.

[rgirty]

I don't wear the seer's signet. hhm+heroictombs rings are both better...a long list of rings are better than seer's, right now i'm wearing exorcist due to the +hit soon to be solved by a belt of blasting.

I farm death's door every chance I get anyway, i'll just start keeping marks/arms instead of auctioning them.

it'll be easy after the venom sack issue.

I exalted 2 char with scryer, money I can make and buying rep items is easy work.

[bwirum]

Just saw the seer's signet on your armory, that's all.

[rgirty]

No surprise, have the wrong ring on...i need to put that back in the bank blah!

Thanks bud

[Shellar]

Interestingly enough, the S/A quests in Netherstorm and SMV are not mutually exclusive. You'll get to destroy all the Manaforges all over again. :)