I guess this is a Moral issue....maybe...

[Davinphk]

So here is the issue. My friend is indefinately quitting Wow. He said due to his personal life he has to quit for good.

The issue I am having is that he offered his account to me for free. The only real reason i would do that is because he has a 70 rogue with alot of late game gear.

Is it right to just take it and transfer it to my server? Im one who values the work put in to get a char to 70 and I almost feel like im cheating just taking his account. I asked some dudes in my guild and they were saying that they need a rogue for Dps for some end game raids and crap. But i think that they might have a biast opinion about the whole thing.

I mean, wont blizzard see that im xferring a 70 to my account and server where the other highest char is 44 and nerf the whole thing? idk, can I even do that? I thought you could only xfer chars into different accounts that were registered under the same name...

Im confused, morally and technically. Help. :tongue:

[xDarkDrifterx]

You cannot transfer his character to your account. You would have to be the account holder with the original email address and CC # of both accounts. If you transfered the toon to your server, you'd have to try to trick Blizz into letting you pay the $25 tranfer fee (highly doubtful since you probably don't have the above info). You'll never be able to have his toon on your account. You could get all his info and start paying for his account with gamecards, but at the end of the day, you're still gonna have to pay for those two accounts.

The morality issue is something for you to look at yourself.

Personally, I wouldn't want someone elses toon, it would never feel like it was truly mine. I have a connection with my toons because I leveled them, fought battles with them along the way (pvp server), bought gear for them through the levels, made a name for them by my actions, etc.

[Davinphk]

I actually got all of his info. The guy quitting is one of my best RL friends so that wasnt an issue. I was thinkiung about that too where i would have to pay for 2 accounts and thats why i wasnt going to do it initally...still thinking it over though.

[ChaosSaber]

I don't think you can do it even if you have all the info. The two accounts have to be registered in the same name when they are created. The only exception is parent/child accounts, but good luck proving that.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

I actually got all of his info. The guy quitting is one of my best RL friends so that wasnt an issue. I was thinkiung about that too where i would have to pay for 2 accounts and thats why i wasnt going to do it initally...still thinking it over though.

You misunderstand. You have to be the name as the owner of the account, on both accounts (the CC3/billing name doesn't matter). This is something that is set up when you first make the account, and cannot be changed, Blizzard will not permit it to be changed. If the name of the account owner is not the same on both accounts, you will not be allowed to transfer characters from one account to the other. It just won't happen.

[Davinphk]

Yeah, no, i know all of that. I was thinking that i would pay for both accounts and transfer the 70 to the same server as my other chars. At least that way I could farm gold and mats for my professions and mail them to the other toons but that is where the moral issue comes in. To me, that feels like cheating. Thats mainly where i was looking for opinions.

As another Wow player, would that seem shady to you or would people look down on that, cause im having mixed feelings about it right now.

[Kugan]

It wouldn't feel shady to me... but I still won't go around telling other people. I'll probably use the characters to do some PvP (learn about other classes), but I'll never use it as my new main (or to gank other players, or do anything really shady :P).

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

Yeah, no, i know all of that. I was thinking that i would pay for both accounts and transfer the 70 to the same server as my other chars. At least that way I could farm gold and mats for my professions and mail them to the other toons but that is where the moral issue comes in. To me, that feels like cheating. Thats mainly where i was looking for opinions.

As another Wow player, would that seem shady to you or would people look down on that, cause im having mixed feelings about it right now.

The only issue I see is it is a violation of the ToU, as in.... Blizzard doesn't approve of accounts being transfered from one person to another. Dual-boxing isn't an issue (unless your system has a problem with it, but if it is on two different computers, that is a moot point).

Honestly, I farm mats with my 70's all the time to send to my low level characters. Since they are on the same account, this expedites the process, since the mail system is set up for instantaneous transfer of mats/goods/money from one character to another character on the same account.

[Herald of Doom]

I had the exact same thing, although my friends account was a lot worse than mine. He did however have two highlevelish classes that I never tried, and me and my sister were sharing one account (both level 70, which was getting annoying). So, now I pay for two accounts, one mainly gets played by my sister and has my old main and the second account is mainly played by me with my new mains. Let me tell you, it IS extremely handy from time to time so if you can afford it I'd go for it. I log into one account, alt+tab, click WoW again and log in on my other account and voila, my lvl 37 shaman can heal my rogue while I'm questing hehe

HoD

[inkmva]

Multiple accounts, legitimacy not in question, is very handy and not really that expensive. It's like a few beers less a month at the pub ;).

[Polaba]

Yeah, multiple accounts can come in handy. (Me logging on my horde and camping somebody to tears because a guy ninjaed an epic world drop comes to mind...)

Dual-boxing isn't an issue (unless your system has a problem with it, but if it is on two different computers, that is a moot point).

By that you mean it's not an issue because he will have no trouble doing it, or because he shouldn't do it under any circumstances?

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

By that you mean it's not an issue because he will have no trouble doing it, or because he shouldn't do it under any circumstances?

I mean it is a non-issue. I mean there is no problem, no issue. It is something dismissed as an irrelevant thing to worry about, because it is literally no big deal -- if you have the money to play on two accounts, and want to do so, there is nothing to stop you from doing it. The game is a little more complex when playing on multiple accounts, and having a separate machine for each account will help more than having two accounts run on the same machine, but that's a matter of preference. Heck, all you need to do is have two installations of the WoW files (copy the WoW folder and rename it to something else, and you can log in on two accounts on the same computer).

[Polaba]

I mean it is a non-issue. I mean there is no problem, no issue. It is something dismissed as an irrelevant thing to worry about, because it is literally no big deal -- if you have the money to play on two accounts, and want to do so, there is nothing to stop you from doing it. The game is a little more complex when playing on multiple accounts, and having a separate machine for each account will help more than having two accounts run on the same machine, but that's a matter of preference. Heck, all you need to do is have two installations of the WoW files (copy the WoW folder and rename it to something else, and you can log in on two accounts on the same computer).

Do you condone it? Just wondering.

[Burntmeat]

Blizzard condones it.

[Altaris]

The dude with the four mages and (I believe) shadow priest comes to mind... But yeah, Blizz condones dual-boxing. A guildie has three accounts, and is contemplating a fourth.

As for the morality of taking someone else's account and using it to help yourself... I personally wouldn't do it. But I do work very closely with several guildmates and RL friends to help lowbie toons (instance runs and whatnot.) I also have no problem using my 70 to farm mats & items for my other toons.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

Do you condone it? Just wondering.

Do I condone dual-boxing? First, I don't even think "condone" is even remotely the correct term to use in this situation. It is a play style some people choose, and playing two characters at the same time is not in any way, shape, or form a violation of the EULA/ToU. Therefore, there is no need to "condone" or "not condone", it is what some people do, a choice they make; if they have the money and resources, as well as the ability to multitask between two (or more) characters at the same time, so be it. I don't have the systems available to do it myself, and already am paying for two accounts, with no desire to pay for a third one. As such, it isn't something I do. If I had the spare resources to do so, I'd probably dual-box myself.

Now, using an account that isn't your own, the second part of the OP's topic... that is a violation of the EULA/ToU. Not exactly an easy one to identify as such, and the player will most likely never get caught doing it, but if anything ever goes wrong with the account that isn't actually his, he won't really be able to do anything about getting it fixed/taken care of through Blizzard (and might end up getting it perma-banned if he even tries). It is most definitely something I wouldn't do, there is too much risk involved for too little benefit or gain in my reckoning.

[Polaba]

playing two characters at the same time is not in any way, shape, or form a violation of the EULA/ToU.

Ok, that was pretty much all I was wondering.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

There is a caveat: Using a 3rd party program or botting program to be able to automate the actions of your characters when you play multiple characters is against the EULA/ToU.

[Mesmer]

Back on the original topic if you only had lowbies on your account you could suspend it and just start new toons on your mates account so you could use his lvl 70 to cash/equip them up.

I suspended my account for over a year and only came back to it after BC came out. In fact I have two CD keys as I had to buy them again when I reinstalled as I had lost my original disks. The new CD key I have never used as I just reactivated my old account. I have often considered activating my other account so I can run myself through instances and just generally power level myself.