What happend to my battlegroup ?

[Pisken]

This might sound like a whine post , i guess it is :P

Been pvp ing alot whole my wow career (since beta) , had my majority of toons on one single realm (in Rampage battlegroup) , suddenly now has the allies learned how to teamplay winning almoast ALL BG's i enter , cant even usually get my daily done.

How come ? all allies geared up recently ? all learned the value of "non zerging teamplay for objectives" strategy ?

I usually dont whine over a loss or even a whole weekend of loosing , but now its been like this since patch i guess ... a win ratio from like 60%-40% (Horde/allies) to 05%-95%

Anyone else here from Rampage(EU) noticed this phenomena ?

[Amiral]

well, one of the major problems with nowadays (at least last time I played) horde Rampage EU, is that the starting stats are 13+ alliance players, ~8 horde players, which means the alliance gets the upper hand in the beginning.
If we do get an even starting-field, they get owned, badly a lot of the time.
At least last time I played, a couple of weeks ago.

[Pisken]

ye , we always seems to start with lesser players ... some lag issue , or just not enough horde players do BG's in Rampage ?

[MammaMu]

I might give you some comfort then, and THIS is a whine post ;-)

I play as alliance, and in my battlegroup we have horde dominating WSG and AB as usual, with alliance having the upper hand in EOTS.

I am starting to get annoyed about AV though. Imho AV is the best bg for grindning honor outside a premade, and for the last few weeks we have had pretty fun and balanced matches there, with even wins between the factions.

The last few days though have been abyssmal for alliance. I've grinded 12k honor in AV mon-tue and have won a grand total of TWO games! Lots of no-clue players of course, but even in games with excellent communication, dynamic on-the-fly offensive/defensive adaption depending on horde movement etc we still don't win.

Now, as we still get the typical 188 bonus honor for a losing game it is still fast honor. What really nags me is that the horde gets double that. It's a classical catch 22 - the horde gets more honor, get better geared as a whole, win even more games because of that, etc etc.

It might just be a fluke and we get balanced wins again. If not I probably start grinding honor in EOTS instead. Slower honor gain but I don't have the constant losses chewing up the fun factor.

[Pin]

well, one of the major problems with nowadays (at least last time I played) horde Rampage EU, is that the starting stats are 13+ alliance players, ~8 horde players, which means the alliance gets the upper hand in the beginning.

Hmm, similar problem in Misery EU. 50% of the horde who signup seem to wait until the last second to come in (or let it time out and new people join).

Mostly seems to happen in AB, but WSG and EoTS suffer from it also. However, most games we recover from the initially lower amount of players. Seem to win AB more than 50% of the time.

Really annoying in AB though when you only have enough people to (attempt to) take 2 bases at the start, it means the alliance usually get somewhere completely unopposed.

Alliance have started winning 80% of the AVs in battlegroup also, horde just don't defend in significant numbers.

I've found the same as the OP also, the alliance in my BG seems to have geared up significantly (must having been saving all those points). Fortunately I did the same, so I'm doing about as well/badly as I ever did.

[Wintrow]

I find it hard enough winning one single AV to get my wife's hunter her Bloodseeker. Day before yesterday it looked like we were winning and bad weather blews out my internet-connection. And the only reason we were winning was because massive lag enabled us to run passed all Horde and capture everything up to the last GY.

[kangrave]

I've noticed that the same thing happened in my battlegroup (Reckoning EU). It used to be like a 75%-25% win ratio (horde/ally) but is now like a 15-85% win ratio (horde/allyy) or so. Even if AB, where horde used to DOMINATE on my server (probs won at least 80% of the time) allies now win the majority.

[Pisken]

Now im of to bed from an evening of AB farming .... we actually won some (i took the "leader" role directing us some...when ppl listen we won , otherwise we lost) ... but the 15 allies joined and about 8 horde joined was in like EVRY damn game ... and i mean EVRY game (must done about 15-20 tonight).

meaning allies had a good head start , we use to get full team when allies had 3 or 4 bases already , with luck and leadership we turned the tides of war....but very annoying to get crippled in the beginning...

and noticed a very annoying hunter pet bug...but that is reported to blizz :P (the damn pet dont "loose" me EVER ...(i play rogue) ...but now im hijackin my own whine thread :P )