Guild Bank Rules?

[Lazt]

Okay so I have a small leveling guild on my horde character that I created with my bro, 1 bank tab for guild bank, might get a second if the people in the guild use it enough...

How do you guys manage your guild bank?

I had a guy join the guild then gquit cause he coudlnt use guild bank... and I told him when he asked me that if he needs soemthing to let me knwo and I am normally happy to give anything to anyone for the most part... just dont want people cleaning the bank out! So I only allow access to higher ranked members.

Entry level rank gets deposit/view
Member rank gets deposit/view
Next rank gets 1 withdraw
Next rank gets 2 withdraws
next rank gets 4 withdraws
and Highest rank gets 10 withdraws

No gold access yet, as gold deposits are basically used for either buying the 2nd tab once we can afford it (250g) not enough deposits right nwo though only at about 65gold right now, or once we reach 70 and start raiding for repairs or pots/buffables and stuff for the raiders......

Member rank is basicaly given to anyone who stays in guild for a while w/o leaving or causing problems and getting removed.

Next rank is fairly easy to get, basically just anyone I watch that has been a member for a while no set time, but someone that I see help people, donate to the vault a little, even if I see people party together a lot frequently, then I will often promote them to this rank.

the very helpful people that talk in g chat a lot and help others when needed but not expected to help all the time, just on occasion, and that have shown some vested interest in teh guild and helping it grow are promoted to this rank.

Those that actually seem to care about the GUILD and want to help us grow and be the best we can be are this rank.

And then the highest rank is same as previous, except for those that I see going above and beyond, and have been a member for a pretty long time.

So anyways, im just curious how others use their guild banks? Once we finally can afford 2nd guild tab I will make it free for all probably..

[luziferial]

All we've got in our guild now is only officers can withdraw stuffs.

But well, we're quite a big guild, and Mainly stuffs in the guild vault are very valuable.
So the rules are:
- Anyone can access anything in the vault, as long as s/he donates something back to the vault.
- If you wants the materials from the vault to gain some tradeskill, you must put the end-products from materials in return. For this, the one that request for withdrawal must deposit some golds, sometimes just about or below the price for that particular materials. The gold will be returned to that player when s/he put the products back to the bank.

the problem for this, is that no one really request anything at all. We only ask for some golds to the vault, when that person request for something from the vault. But well, the response we always get is "what? Do I need to give something too? I've got no money and no rare item to put in return.. can't you just give That to me?" .. and we'd say "no, the vault is not there for personal benefit" and the conversation ends there...

The problem with the vault is that how much can you trust that particular person who can access the vault.. If that person takes LOADS of (name a valuable item here) and leave the guild.. how would you feel? We recently demote an officer for taking money without giving reason, only for 7 silver. But hey, It's your guild and it's your vault. Do it as how it should be done ^^

[Polaba]

Usually only the officers and GM are allowed to use it if there's only one tab, to prevent people from joining, raping the guild bank and leaving.

[Davemetalhead]

We actually had an officer take everything we had in the bank and /gquit to join another guild. It looks like Blizz are going to do nothing about it as well, which is damned annoying.

Thankfully we're not a large guild, and we're still working through Kara, so the items weren't particularly rare ...

[cyradis2003]

I think the OP's rules are pretty fair though 10 stacks is a pretty high limit even for officers.

Ours works as follows:
3 tabs:

General: Anyone can view or deposit. Members can take up to 4 items alts can take 2. This is usually cooked food or raw foods and potions, TK vapor thingies, armor kits etc. Stuff you don't mind people taking.

Crafter: Anyone can view or deposit, members get 2 withdrawals and alts get 1 per day. This is gems, cloth, high level craft items, cut gems etc.

Drops: Anyone can view and deposit, officers only may make withdrawals. If you want something in here you ask an officer. This has BOE Blues and purps that drop on our raids, paterns and schematics and Marks of Ilidari. (Soul essences are in crafter stuff for the tailors)

No one can take gold or use it for repairs, not even officers.

We have really strict recruiting policies so they don't worry about people joining to rob the bank and with the limits they have in place no one would get much anyway.

I think you should count yourself lucky that guy left when he did. I have heard of people joining small guilds just to clean out the banks. Many times they will use mid level forgotten alts so you can't even be sure posting about them on the forums will help other guilds since they will just use a different toon while the money goes to an unknown main.

If you as a guild leader have people putting stuff in the bank then you have a responsibility to protect it from thieves. Placing limits on withdrawals and promoting people wisely is a big part of that. Don't let one guy change how you want your guild to run. (One guy who probably was trying to steal from you guys if he left that fast because he couldn't take bank items)



A side note: Almost everyone in my guild seems to check the bank logs out of curiosity. A number of us have noticed one member hitting his limit nearly every day. The officers don't say anything to him because this was the limit they set but it does make for a bit of guild tension since he never deposits much.... and he is a bit of a jerk to begin with.

If you have someone doing this you may want to rethink your withdrawal limits or speak to him privately to find out why he needs 3 pair of soulcloth gloves and many 20 stacks of high end potions. As an alchemist I drop in a few now and then - I started putting them in as 5 stacks but he just combines them and takes them in 20's. I am seriously thinking of not giving any more pots to the bank since he seems to take them all. This is something to look at as the guild leader and address it before people start feeling tension or stop depositing.

[clevins]

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If you have someone doing this you may want to rethink your withdrawal limits or speak to him privately to find out why he needs 3 pair of soulcloth gloves and many 20 stacks of high end potions. .

YOu'll find them on the AH I'm sure. And taking things from the guild bank to AH should be a gkick offense. No excuses whatsoever.

[Beruen]

Our guild has 4 tabs. Two are general tabs. Anyone (except people in their probation period) can deposit things or take small quantities, with quantities increasing a bit as they rank higher in the guild. We basically let everyone know that as long as you're not vendoring/selling stuff or giving it to non-guilded alts/friends, there's not much in the way of restrictions or expectations, it's there to be used.

We have one tab for crafting mats. This tab is not for skilling up crafting, or making things to sell, it's for making things for guildies. The stack limits for this tab are higher than for the first tab, but you also need just a little more rank to gain access to it. If you can find 5 guildies that want and can use an item that you get skill points for, great, but the purpose is to have mats for things that are needed.

Then we have one tab that's under officer control. This is for the occasional hard to find drop that we want to make sure goes to someone that will actually benefit the guild. Typical things in that tab are the lvl 70 spell tomes, bringers of death, valanos' long bows, spell thread, etc.

We also demote items that sit in tabs too long. While we'd prefer they go to a really good use, if a really good use doesn't come along, a good use is good enough.

Money is deposit only for everyone but the guild leader, as we don't need any guild funds for anything other than buying the next bank tab. Heck, if I could lock down the ability to deposit, I probably would, since I'm the main source of cash in the guild (obsesive compulsive, I had bought 5 epic fliers before anyone else in the guild bought one, and even that person got a partial loan from me).

To date, we've had two cases of things disappearing from the bank and turning up in the AH. Both resulted in demotions, and one person left the guild of his own choice because he felt we no longer trusted him. I'm convinced the other person won't repeat his mistake.

We've also had one case of a person quitting the guild because they didn't have access to the bank, was certain that he was being picked on, he'd been in guild for over 30 days and shouldn't still be on probation (didn't realize that we note when people join the guild in the officer notes), etc. This was someone we were actually glad to see go, because for many reasons, he was going to be the first person in a long time that wasn't going to survive the probation period anyway. In three weeks, the only things he ever said in guild chat fell into one of a few categories 1) requests for crafting mats, usually stuff that he couldn't have used on his guilded character anyway, 2) requests for a high level character to run him through some instance, or 3) requests for promotions so he could get access to the guild bank.

At least once a day, I check the bank logs to see if there have been any unusual withdrawls, and if so, check the AH to see if they turned up there, and in cases of enchanting/crafting mats, check the character's armory page to see if they have anything new that might explain the withdrawl. I do that more to make sure that everyone is comfortable dropping good stuff in the guild bank than because we can't trust our guildies. Our recruiting standards have more to do with how you treat someone else than how well you play, so we really do trust each other to treat the guild bank items with respect.