HUGE Ron Paul World Of Warcraft Rally

[WarStallion]

Yes, the guild RP Revolution had a huge rally for Ron Paul on the realm Whisperwind.

HUGE Ron Paul World Of Warcraft Rally (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RQadKzKm7M)

[spadron]

Not very RP surely?

[piscene]

I don't think there is a president, or a candidate, in WoW, even in RL. I like to keep my RL and WoW, separate, but that's just me.

[Shellar]

Who? :rolleyes:

[Renata]

I was there -- not as a supporter of Ron Paul, but first as an observer on my Alliance toon, and then attacking the rally on my Horde warlock.

It was a mess. The server hasn't had queues for months, and that night we had a server queue of over 400. I know several people who were 45 minutes late for raids because of it. Everywhere the march went (there were an estimated 250-300 people in the march, though a small number of these were disinterested people looking for PvP opportunities and a small knot of dedicated hecklers) they created nearly unplayable levels of lag for any poor saps who were actually trying to play the game.

On the Alliance side, chat channels and /yell were filled with political slogans, most of it along the lines of "A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for freedom!" -- you know, meaningless sound bites. I stayed with them as they marched from Ironforge, went to the tram, went to Stormwind, and then went to Westfall on their way to a swim to Booty Bay. In Westfall I logged to my Horde toon, where about ten of my guildmates were already on their high level Horde toons, waiting in Ratchet.

Although the march itself didn't flag (leaders kept yelling at people not to flag), they had a lot of level 70 alliance guards who did. A friend of mine who has a high level Alliance talked to a few of them and found out that they didn't support Ron Paul or the march; they were just tagging along hoping for some world PvP. Well, we gave them that at Ratchet, and again at the Crossroads. Apparently the march had been planning to encircle the Crossroads and /dance, but they didn't realize how big of an aggro radius the mostly sub-level-6 march would have and the guards killed a lot of the earlier adapters. So they steered off XR and headed toward Orgrimmar. We (the high level Horde) finished killing the last of the flagged Alliance, mounted up, and headed off to meet them at the Orgrimmar gates.

Let's just say this: if the episode that followed in front of Orgrimmar doesn't change the duel-and-snake-trap bug (duel a hunter, set off their snake trap, run out of range, and the snakes will go off and attack anything nearby), I'm not sure what will. Horde hunters everywhere were getting dueled and setting off snakes in all directions, which attacked the low level marchers and killed them en masse. The front of Orgrimmar was covered in bones.

Interestingly enough, as one of the video commenters noted, neither the battles in the Barrens nor the snake trap mass slaughter made it into their YouTube video. They pointed the cameras away to small flocks of waving gnomes whenever there was anything "interesting" going on.

Maybe someone out there thinks we were wrong for attacking their rally, but honestly, they were disrupting our server with something that doesn't belong here. There is a time and a place for everything, and like Piscene said, most of us like to keep the real world out of our game. I doubt that they managed to do much other than piss off most of the server that wasn't involved in their little publicity stunt. Many don't care, many already know what they think about the election, and many can't even vote, being underage or non-US citizens. I guess they feel any publicity is good publicity, but I personally know a lot of people who are less interested in this person as a presidential candidate than ones who were positively swayed by it.

...Ren

[Renata]

My video reference above is actually for the longer 9-minute video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDyheKhwWf8).

...Ren

PS. I would have just edited my old post with this information, but apparently you can't edit a post after a certain amount of time has elapsed.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

I'm still left with a "who cares?" sort of feel. Big whoop-dee-do.

[cyradis2003]

Honestly I wouldn't have voted for him in the first place but now I feel I must mock him mercilessly to anyone who will listen.

What kind of tool thought that would be a good idea?

"Hey! Lets do a rally for an ultraconservative on a video game that has demons and monsters and makes fun of Christmas and stuff!"

I bet given the power to do so Ron Paul would replace all of our WoW copies with Left Behind but here people are annoying the rest of the world in an ill advised stunt.

[Lothaer]

who the fark is Ron Paul?

[Maelfurion]

Hi Ren!

For the past 5 days or so, the alliance trade chat on Whisperwind was filled with Ron Paul stuff. It was really annoying. Many people there were just there to be in a crowd. Ppl were asking "WTH is RON PaUL?" while marching. It was such a bad idea to do that stupid march in WoW.

And the leader of that RP Revolution guild did talk to a GM before the march and somehow it was O.K. The GL said they kick every member of the guild that says anything about Ron Paul in public and it was true. But ALL of their member's name clearly shows what/why they are marching for.

The GM should of give a warning on the server and temporarily ban them if they dont stop. I heard it's against the EULA to do that kind of political stuff on WoW.

I was just started playing WoW a while ago, I saw those videos of big events like raids happening on other servers and I wished something big could happen on Whisperwind. But it's sad that something like this happened. It not where it belongs and it's breaking the rules. Plus, it lagged to server.

I'm glad the horde just AoEd all of them when the entered Org hehe.

[piscene]

who the fark is Ron Paul?

And who cares?

[Valas Azuviir]

Would've liked to see a video of the ocean of Hordies descending down upon the Alliance infidels daring to attack Orgrimmar.. :grin:

Can also almost picture what was going on at the other end.

Uhm.. Willbur.. There's a rather large force of these monsters outside of those city gates and more seem to be joining them
Don't worry Bob. We're just here to hold our rall....
*Horde charges and begins to lay waste to the invading force*
Mommy.... *Willbur flees*

[Renata]

I don't think they were planning to attack Orgrimmar. I think they were planning to do a group picture. How they intended to do this without aggroing the guards or having a lot of Horde sitting on them is beyond me. Probably they would have taken it with all the Horde trying to cover everyone up and claim it was Alliance/Horde solidarity behind Ron Paul.

But, it's a moot point, because the snake traps sort of took care of that problem.

And yes, I wish I'd taken video of it too.

...Ren

[Lothaer]

can sum1 please tell me who the fark Ron Paul is?

[Valas Azuviir]

I don't think they were planning to attack Orgrimmar.

...Ren

I'm looking at it from an RP point of view, how would the normal inhabitants of Orgrimmar react if a large number of uninvited Alliance members showed up outside the door, spouting gibberish.. :wink:

Troll Hunter: Wha they be jabberin about, mon??
Orcish Warrior: Don't look at me, not as if I can understand those pinkskins.
Tauren Shaman: Indeed, this large a number is most distressing to the local spirits.
Forsaken Warlock: Well, if you really want to know, they said some unfriendly things about your mothers.
Trio: They did??
Forsaken Warlock: Hey, I used to be one of them, I can understand them perfectly and it's not as if I got some reason to lie to you folks, now do I??
Orcish Warrior: Let's mash them
Troll Hunter: *Sics raptor on crowd*
Tauren Shaman: *frost shock*

:tongue:

can sum1 please tell me who the fark Ron Paul is?

Use wikipedia.

[tagkc]

Personally, I'd do my best to gank them for the simply reason of bringing reality into my fantasy world.

[Shellar]

I fail to see the difference between this and an invasion of advertisement spammers.

[Renata]

It WAS an invasion of advertisement spammers. They had a product they are trying to get me to buy, but the currrency was my vote (though a donation to the campaign would not have been unwelcome, I am sure).

...Ren

[construct]

I'm sure you've secured the 14 year old vote for Ron Paul, excellent work!

[LunarSolaris]

All my toons are on Whisperwind and I can attest that it's been a huge mess on the server since the incident. We haven't had queue's in several months, now we have consistent queue's again.

If anything, the RP march only sought to make a lot of gamers upset and in the end any "support" hoped to be gained for Ron Paul backfired.

It's just been a huge mess.

[Patchouly]

I am trying to picture the meeting that was held when somebody "brainstormed" this idea. Seriously, this idea must have occured at 3 AM after about 9 hours and everybody missed dinner, thus low blood sugar/exhaustion. That is the only thing that makes sense to me, how else could they have thought something so dumb would *ever* work? :rolleyes:

Unless the goal was to create hostility to Ru Paul, or Ron Paul, whatever the guy's name is. Then I would say they succeeded

[piscene]

Ru Paul,

Now that was funny. :grin:

[Patchouly]

Now that was funny. :grin:

Heh heh. When I first read the title of this thread that is what my tired brain thought it said...Ru Paul.

I have to confess that I don't keep up with politics at all anymore since it is bad for my blood pressure. I have no idea who Ron Paul is, but he seems like a dope.

[maladroit2000]

After reading this thread I decided to do a little bit of reading about Ron Paul.

I think he is an incredible man. He believes in things I do not agree with but his attitude and general philosophy I find enthralling. He is a liberal in the true sense of the word and is not afraid to be honest and outspoken. He is the type of politician who could restore my faith in politics.

Were I American then I would vote for him. Perhaps the rally was worthwhile afterall.

[Zendarin]

Actually Ron Paul is a Libertarian and is the first politician I have seen not afraid to speak out against both the Dems. and Reps. calling them out for both the Imperialist police state one party leans towards and the faux communism the other party leans towards. Calls for Congress going back to the 20 areas of influence granted them by the constitution and getting their hands out of the rest of our lives.

I don't think the rally failed at all - it created name recognition. I would know nothing about Ron Paul nor would I care if the rally had not made me curious enough to start reading what he has published. This is probably the most unique approach to getting your name out there I have seen.

[Renata]

A liberal?

He's a libertarian, but he's actually ultra-conservative in many areas, particularly in areas of social policy. He's far, far from a liberal.

...Ren

[Patchouly]

I've actually not been inspired to do any research on the subject of Ron Paul. It struck me as entirely inappropriate to spotlight any kind of real world politics in a game.

[maladroit2000]

A liberal?

He's a libertarian, but he's actually ultra-conservative in many areas, particularly in areas of social policy. He's far, far from a liberal.

...Ren

A libertarian by definition is liberal. However, the word "liberal" has been hijacked in recent times by people or groups who are anything but liberal, for example, the Liberal Democrats in the UK who, in many ways, are extremely authoratarian.

Conservatism is certainly not the opposite of liberalism. In most ways, liberalism is married to right wing philosophy.

[Zendarin]

Social conservative true - but liberal in most other respects. Since his policy is the Federal Government should have nothing to do with governing our private lives his socially conservative views have no impact on his politics. Abortion? Federal Govt. should have no say - up to the states. Gay marriage? same gig - and so on and so forth. The fact that his personal views are grounded in faith don't enter in to his politics in this case as the entire Libertarian concept is that the feds should butt out of peoples lives the way it used to be prior to the 1930's.

What really stands in his way is that this stance also means attempting to end the Federal free ride programs - and people like their free govt. handouts.

[Burntmeat]

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