Some things I would like to see changed

[dagee]

I have been playing a lot of Wow lately (on vacation so you know...). Anyway, I have been thinking about some elements to WOW that if I were in charge I would like to see changed or added.

1. Respecs would be free. In fact you would not need to go to a trainer to get a respec. Perhaps just have to be in an inn. Before you ask, yes I am a warrior but my desire for this change is not because of my class. I just think it adds a lot more interest to the game when people can switch specs easily. I want to tank for my guild - bam I have my tank spec. I want to take a break and do a couple arena matches - no problem. I don't see the point in making a cost to respecs. By having a cost associated with respecing talents you lock people, to some degree, into a certain type of play style. Yes, I realize that gold is easy to come by but still.

In Guild Wars respecing is free. I found that I would respec all the time based on my mood. It also allows for people to experiment and learn their class more. When there is a cost associated with the switching of talent people tend to be more cautious in how they spend their talent points. Thus instead of trying various builds out and learning the ins and outs of their class they stick to tried and true builds. There is nothing wrong with sticking to something that works but, you do miss out on something when you allow others to build your character for you.

The second thing I would like to see, is that the map shows the locations of quests. Currently I am using an addon that someone created that does this to a pretty decent degree but it seems to me that this is something that should have been implemented in by Blizzard. While I do realize there are those people who enjoy going through the quests, reading the clues and then completing the quests. I think there are many people who just want straight forward adventure and not have to spend part of their wow time on some external website tying to find out the location of a specific quest.

Anyway, these are my ideas -nothing ground breaking just small things that for me would make the game more enjoyable. My question though is what would others do if they were in charge?

[piscene]

I would disagree on both points for the same reason. Why make the game absurdly easy? You have to actually do some work to earn your talent and skill points, so why would you be able to change them without some more work? In this case, with gold.

Also, the quests are not usually that hard to figure out, and there are so many resources online that give you coordinates in order to complete them, it would seem silly to me to make it any easier.

[rottentomato]

i think they shouldnt charge for respecs until around lvl 60 and you are at least in outlands...i can honestly say ive respecced 30-40 times on my rogue and hunter each, costing around 1400gper character... different patches almost require a respec to test out new features or abilities to see how it affects the character...granted they have the PTR for that, but still if i dont wanna take away from my main toon and want to test it out when it comes out it costs me some serious coin. most of my repecs were on the way to 60...once i got up there and understood the game mechanics a little more and how to play my class more, i needed less respecs because i can see whats going to happen with small changes at patch time. plus the amount of gold pre 60 is so menial until you get to outlands, so why make it harder on people trying to get their first mount or our epic mount. i know for my first character i was stuck with researching builds found osiris's rogue guide and stuck to his recommended combat build, after being sub build prior to my research. i wanted to change back so bad, but never had the g to do that since i knew i had to save for this mount which i thought was exorbitantly high in price. make it slightly easier on the lowbies...make it back to norm for post 60, as this is when the game really seems to open up anyways.

people will have a better grasp of their character and probably play better making PUGs and instances much more interesting.

think about it piscene, if fullmoon could have respecced from balance to feral to resto, would you have just to check out each ability you gained at lvl 40, or 50 and brought you into more instances? you could try your hand at tanking, dps, and healing and decide what is the most fun for you so when you get to 60 you can really expand on your abilities.

if you want something that shows quest locations, there are addons for that... lightheaded comes to mind. i dont think everyone should have this ability, only the ones that really dont care. if i would have had some way to level faster on my first toon, i would have missed a LOT of content.

went to a guide for my hunter, and realized that i never went to WPL or EPL with him, or redridge, spent limited time in azshara, bounced back and forth between hillsbrad and ashenvale, and stone talon who knows how many times, never touched wetlands, went to three quests in dustwallow, hinterlands? whats that?!

i missed a TON of content using a guide, but leveled extremely efficiently and programmed...always seeing the SAME guys in each zone as i level (probably using the same guide)

my rogue got the pleasure of going to a lot of those zones and checking out what they had to offer so no complaints there, and once i got to outlands, threw the guide out the window on the hunter so i could see EVERYTHING outlands has to offer...still no where near through all the quests and hit lvl 70 in nagrand without any effort or grinding sessions, and minimal instancing.

the priest im using a different tact, instance to 70 THEN start questing...why not make my G the easy way...getting through each zone doing instances (hit 61 only doing BF/Ramps after getting the quests for it, plus did 12 quests so far, havent gotten to falcon watch or spinebreaker yet, and have 10 quests or so left from thrallmar.) based on that technique, i should be leaving hellfire around lvl 65, which happened to be my favorite quest area besides nagrand. once i hit zangarmarsh i can work on rep out there just instancing coilfang, which makes me stoked since there is so much gear and things i missed out there!

[Thargos]

I would disagree on both points for the same reason. Why make the game absurdly easy? You have to actually do some work to earn your talent and skill points, so why would you be able to change them without some more work? In this case, with gold.

Also, the quests are not usually that hard to figure out, and there are so many resources online that give you coordinates in order to complete them, it would seem silly to me to make it any easier.
QFT

Exactly.

[dagee]

I would disagree on both points for the same reason. Why make the game absurdly easy? You have to actually do some work to earn your talent and skill points, so why would you be able to change them without some more work? In this case, with gold.

Also, the quests are not usually that hard to figure out, and there are so many resources online that give you coordinates in order to complete them, it would seem silly to me to make it any easier.

I am not trying to argue the point since you are of course entitled to your opinion but I don't see how charging people to respec makes the game necessarily harder. All it means is that I have to grind or quest a bit (something I am not too fond of doing) but which takes no real skill. If your only interest is pvp and raiding you might resent the fact that you are forced to grind gold just to respec.

I totally agree with your second point. There are a lot of online resources to help with quests. This indicates to me that many people are like myself, they don't want to fiddle around with trying to find the various quest locations. In Guild Wars they mark the map for the various quest locations and I really think it makes the game more fun. I spend time beating stuff up instead of searching the internet for quest locations. And yes there are mods you can get and I have one that I am currently using which is great but still I think WOW could should have done this.

[Shellar]

What works for one game will not necessarily work for another.

[Marlous]

Regarding talent points, there's one thing that I'd really like to see changed.. a button or somesort you need to click to confirm your choice of how you wish to spend your talent point. I made a few mistakes already, by accidentally clicking on a talent that I was merely hovering over to see what it did. Highly bothersome.

[Dhoum]

I would definitely like to see a reduction or removal of re-spec costs. Whilst I can see the logic behind making a "change of career" difficult, it doesn't add entertainment (in my opinion) and makes it harder for people who are learning the game. It also sucks for those classes that are pressured to respec in order to raid.

With regard to having quest locations added to the map, there are (as has been said) addons to perform that task and I'm not convinced that incorporating that into the game mechanics would be a good thing as it would impact on the sense of exploration that one feels the first time one visits a zone.

[wyren]

I really agree that it would be nice to be able to respect to at least level 50 without penalty or at least nomnially. I agree with having to go to a trainer that encourages forethought. The expense has definitely pigeon holed my characters choices. I will never waste my money on a destro spec. That is sad I think that pew pew might be fun. I know that I am a coward but it takes too much patience to master drain tankink and affliction. I might try that if it did not cost so much to respec. I am way to greedy to waste money on some thing that frivolous. I will have enough to buy my flying mount if it kills me. AAAGHHH!!!!!!!

[Shellar]

If respecs were free, the best PvP spec would be 0/0/0. Just wait until you see your enemy, quickly press a button, and let an addon distribute your points into a spec custom-tailored for killing people of the class you're facing.

[rgirty]

I have been an advocate of free respec for quite some time.

Or at least multiple profiles, you should be able to have 3 free specs you can switch to.

pvp, pve(raid), pve(solo) you should be able to change these once per hour or something.

Re-spec and needing to go to the trainer to do it is just sill to me, kind of like taking 5 swipes at a mine.

[dagee]

Regarding talent points, there's one thing that I'd really like to see changed.. a button or somesort you need to click to confirm your choice of how you wish to spend your talent point. I made a few mistakes already, by accidentally clicking on a talent that I was merely hovering over to see what it did. Highly bothersome.

I completely agree with this one. I had actually meant to put in my original list.

[piscene]

Or at least multiple profiles, you should be able to have 3 free specs you can switch to.



Now this could be interesting. I'm sure a lot of players have a PvP spec and a PvE spec, and perhaps a raid/instance spec as well.

[Wintrow]

As for the questing marked on the map...
I don't like this.

I'm not one to spend hours scanning an entire zone for some vague element ("Somewhere in Feralas there is a flower that is really tiny, go find me one"). So when I encounter such a quest I go look it up.
But likewise, if a quest says "go see what happened to my brother, he was last seen south west of Blood Watch near the ruins" I'll start from there. Usually it doesn't take too long to find what's going on.

So instead of adding another thing to break the immersion, I advocate better quest descriptions, even going as far as fixing the existing bad ones. Hey, if those questgivers want me to fix their mess they can at least do a bit of research !

In regards to fixing the bad ones: I find the quests that were introduced since The Burning Crusade to be a lot better at this. In Outland you see "bring blabla back to Vindicator whatshisname in Telredor". In Winterspring you see "Q. Giver wants you to find xxx..." without any indication where in Winterspring to find him (if it's actually in Winterspring, could be a quest chain). THOSE are the ones you look up.

That's not 100% correct off course. I did a quest in Zangarmarsh this weekend where I had to go find Spore Bat Eyes. After killing dozens of Marshfang Rippers, Lesser Spore Bats, Greater Spore Bats and whatever looked like one I still had nothing. I looked up the drop and turned out only those literally named "Spore Bat" dropped it. And you could only find them in two areas. But besides from that hiccup: it's all good in TBC :thumbsup:.

[rgirty]

I did a quest in Zangarmarsh this weekend where I had to go find Spore Bat Eyes. After killing dozens of Marshfang Rippers, Lesser Spore Bats, Greater Spore Bats and whatever looked like one I still had nothing. I looked up the drop and turned out only those literally named "Spore Bat" dropped it. And you could only find them in two areas.

I'm not a fan of losing my keys, or searching for something in real life.

The last thing I want to do is log into warcraft and spend my time actually searching for something.

That is why I do not quest, or at least a big reason.

Kudos to people who enjoy this, it just isn't for me.

[HandofDread]

1. Respecs would be free. In fact you would not need to go to a trainer to get a respec. Perhaps just have to be in an inn.


The second thing I would like to see, is that the map shows the locations of quests. Currently I am using an addon that someone created that does this to a pretty decent degree but it seems to me that this is something that should have been implemented in by Blizzard.




Without a charge for respeccing players are encouraged to not think about how they spec... the whole idea of a charge for a change forces you to actually consider what your gonna be before you get there...

That being said I'd like a better/cheaper way to respecc cuz like you I'd just love to experiment...

Second half? Ummm... have you seen the latest patch? A big ! and ? for quests and all sorts of other tracking goodies...