How much to tip for Lockpicking?

[elsegundo]

How much should i tip if i ask someone to lockpick my boxes? does tip increase when i have harder boxes?

[jschild]

Generally yes. I tip 1 to 5 gold, depending on how quick and how many.

I have tipped much higher when I opened it and got something that was worth a pretty penny on the AH, though thats rare.

[odinsnephew]

I do it for free.....but I am a horde elf britneyspearsalikenaughtybadgirl....type ;)

Payment for all services welcome :)

[Khab]

A lot of people refuse tip when I have them open a box, a lot of times they're leveling so they need the work anyway. If I was to tip I normally offer 1G for a high level box.

[Krymsin]

I don't think many rogues would expect a tip necessarily but it's always much appreciated.

What I would consider a good tip would scale with the box level. 50s for a low level box, and 2-3g or so at the highest level.

I've gotten 5g tips before and quite honestly it's because of those people that I'm more then happy to interrupt my city activity to help people with opening boxes.

[tralkar]

I refuse to take money for lockpicking, if someone drops in cash i cancel it.. I always hatted people asking for cash to open boxes that they need for lvl up..

[Luciaz]

They ask for tips?! Funny, none of the rogues I met to lp my boxes asked for one...

[Urbanink]

depends on what is in the box.Min 50 S

[Twoflower]

They ask for tips?! Funny, none of the rogues I met to lp my boxes asked for one...

me neither. in 3 years of playing wow, i never tipped a rogue for lockpicking.

[snowieken]

One of my many alts is a mid-level rogue, and I definately don't need a tip for unlocking. Especially not when I still get skills for it, but even then, I never ask for a tip.

Having said that, however, I think it is common courtesy to at least offer one. If I do get tipped (which doesn't happen very often, because well, I never ask for it), it does restore some hope in human kindness in an online game. Sure, picking a lock doesn't cost the rogue anything (unlike a Blacksmith's keys), but it's nevertheless nice and considerate to do so.

To each his own, of course, I will never scold someone for being an insensitive jerk for not tipping a rogue for unlocking their boxes. :grin:

[Marlous]

My credo is that "tips are left at the discretion of the customer", and it's my reply to anyone who asks if I want a tip for opening their boxes. If they tip me, I appreciate it and thank them, if they don't then I don't mind either way. Some people offer me a tip without question, which I accept, but I'll never ask for it myself.

I reckon that even though I can level up my skill with it, I'm still offering them a service - that's my justification for not refusing a tip. But since I also realise that there are other ways for me to level up, and that there are rogues out there who refuse tips at all, I won't charge either.

[wyren]

I always tip but was aggravated when I had seven boxes and the rogue vanished after 1 box was planning on tipping after I saw what was in each box. Honest, I even mailed him his tip. I really have no clue how much to tip until I see what I get. but I generally tip about 1-3gp for the favor. I would expect the same at least if I enchanted something.

[Azori]

I don't ask for or recieve tips for portals (I only charge rune costs), so I don't expect to tip for lockpicking.

[clevins]

I don't ask for tips since it doesn't cost me anything. For friends and guildies I will not accept a tip. From strangers I'll accept whatever they put in the Trade window (unless it's a lowbie toon with low-level boxes - i just tell them to save their gold)

For higher level boxes, let me put it this way... you're very likely to get a green that's worth several g or more - you can ONLY get access to it by having someone open it. Isn't that worth 1g to you?

Oh and... if you're asking in Trade for someone to open a box... go to them. I'm happy to take a few seconds and open a box, but there's no way I'm travelling somewhere to do it.

[Pharoahe]

I don't ask for or recieve tips for portals (I only charge rune costs), so I don't expect to tip for lockpicking.

thats rubbish on multiple levels.

First its clear every server has different standards. In alot of servers it is the norm to tip.

Second, some people actually have taken a long time to level their lockpicking. After the initial quest, I kinda ignored it and then panicked when I realised my skill should be 210 by now. And it was not easy. Pre 2.3 (when skill was not written on the box) it was not easy standing outside SW/IF bank offering people to open boxes for free. You can sit for hours and just get a couple skill ups. Also a good spot for leveling around then is outside sunken temple. The few boxes are there, it took hours to skill up (swimming without potions- too expensive to get them). It was frustrating. Sure if you keep upto date with your skill every time you ding, its pretty damn easy.

Another thing that bugs me is the attitude of many idiots in the game (im sure mages expereince similar stuff with ports and food, so I'm sympathetic). Most of the time if you're in the city people will not politely ask you, and just open a trade window (which can be infuriating if your half way through writing a letter for example).

Anyway, here are my general rules;
- Free for guildies and friends ofcourse.
- I charge 1g for Khorium boxes
- Everything else I open for free
- Except if youre getting me to open more than a couple of boxes. If you want me to open 10, and go out of my way to open them, I would expect something in return. Making a port for someone is alot quicker than opening 10 boxes. This is where the above posters argument falls flat IMO.

Rules for people who want their box opened;
- NEVER EVER open a trade window with someone unless they give you the blessing to do so.
- If the person does expect a tip, dont lose your head. If you dont want to pay, thats fair enough. But its also fair enough if they want a tip. So just cancel the trade and look for someone else. Dont get mad "n00b hop u diez".
- "why should I pay if youre getting a skill up?" argument is not valid. Unless that person is specifically looking to improve their skill (by asking/yelling), there is no real reason for you to assume they'll be getting a skill up.

Ofcourse alot of this stuff assumes that a) the rogue is a nice person and b) the person wanting the box opened is a nice person. But we all know that a large percentage of people playing are idiots.

What puzzles me though is that why are people always in such a hurry to have boxes opened? I'm sure most users could just for a rogue in their guild to come online and do it free...I find it odd that I've at times seen friends asking in trade, when they know I'm online and I'll do it for free. Silly :grin:

[Baboon]

I always feel a bit silly if someone gives me a tip. I mean, I have to click twice and that's it. It's nice ofcourse, but it's not needed. I'd save tips for people who have bought expensive enchanting recipe's.

thats rubbish on multiple levels.

No it's not. There are two many people around already who want credit or gold for anything. There are even people who want to keep a shard for themselves if they disenchant in a 5 man.

I'm happy if someone says thank you to me. And people like the aforemented disser end up on my ignorelist, which is full of dumb and selfish people :)

Well that's just my personal idea, don't feel insulted, it's also a decent system where everyone tips everyone, but I prefer people saying "thank you" and "please"

[elsegundo]

i think that rogues have invested something into advancing their skill, and for that ability, they should be compensated. i think thats kind of implied when i made this thread. i just would like to know how much is fair.

i remember having this conversation with someone before over /1 channel.

him: wtb incendicite ores pst
me: you still looking for incedicite?
him: yea, can you mail it COD?
me: yea, no problem. it will be 1 gold for 6 ores.
him: 1 gold to do a quest that gives me 400 experience?
me: well, 1 gold for that, plus my mining skill.
(no reply)

oh well. if he could get it cheaper thats great. but for me to have farmed those ores at my level was long. i got 18 ores and sold 12 at the AH, and used 6 for me. it took forever at my level, and with my mining skill, i thought 1 gold was fair for those ores.

how much mining worth is kinda the same as how much is lockpicking worth, or how much is enchanting worth? etc. but since lockpicking is rogue specific, the skill might be worth more? i dont know and that's why im asking. =]

[clevins]

Nah... 1g per box is plenty at 70. If they're skilling up (and they are if they're not 70) offer a small tip (50s) or something. They're getting skillups already. It's as if someone brought you an ore vein and asked you to mine it for them...

[frimley]

i think that rogues have invested something into advancing their skill, and for that ability, they should be compensated.

how much mining worth is kinda the same as how much is lockpicking worth, or how much is enchanting worth? etc. but since lockpicking is rogue specific, the skill might be worth more? i dont know and that's why im asking. =]

Its a bit different though - you're comparing a class skill with a profession for starters. And some professions (particularly enchanting) cost a small fortune to level. For instance, the final enchanting rod alone, cost me over 200g (iirc); its really irksome if people don't tip me for enchants for that reason. On the other hand, I'll often give people portals on my alt mage if they ask, and don't even really expect the cost of the rune - just a please and thank you usually do the trick.

[Dalamin]

I generally offer conjured food if on my mage or fort buff if on my priest. I never charge for food / water and buffs when asked politely so generally don't expect to tip. Portals will accept cash if offered or do it for mat only if asked nicely.

[Incursion]

I have never asked for a tip. If someone does I always thank them for it, no matter what the tip is. If I have a few moments to spare I will use the emote I have in that city to help people out. I have gotten items from people instead of cash, the holly thing and some potions just recently.

[dspeed]

I agree with alot of people about no need to tip for opening box.

I myself am a rogue and it wasn't hard at all to get my lockpick skill to max. All I did was whenever I go farming, I always Stealth and then steal. You get plenty of boxes that way to level up and is not hard. Even though those boxes contain nothing fancy most of the time it safe you money from buying ingredient to brew poison.

Like someone said before. As long as you ask politely I think majority of the time rogue will help you open the boxes. Just don't do trade window without asking first. Is very annoying. Specially when you're in the middle of something.

[cartoon corpse]

you saying only rogues can get into those chests you find around?

[elsegundo]

you saying only rogues can get into those chests you find around?

no. unless the chest says "Locked" when you mouse over it.


if you read the replies, you'll see everyone refering to a "box" and not a "chest". so we're really talking about a box.

[AutonomyBoy]

I've only ever had about 5 boxes that needed to be opened, and each time I asked a rogue to do it they all refused tips, nice people make a nice game :D

[moopy]

I hate those eejits spamming trade channel "OPENING LOCK BOXES FOR FREE!!!! (tips welcome)". Lose the caps, lose the guilt trip, shut the hell up already. It didn't cost you a fortune to level lock picking, get off my internet.

I don't pay people to open lock boxes. I get guildie rogues to do it. As is standard in interactions with guildies, it's all free, which they're glad of the next time they want an enchant on new gear, or some pots brewing..

[theshard]

Maybe it's because I have worked in the service industry in real life or something but if it's something I can't do myself, I always tip. Before I rolled a rogue, I had a friend that I could just mail the box to and the next day it would be returned and unlocked. Even though he was a friend and did not expect it, I always sent 1g with the box as a tip. He didn't need the gold but he appreciated the thought.

On my mage, portals were 1g. Food was just a required tip for my time but no set price. Now I am on a different server, I tip 1g without question, 2g if its to shat.

For enchants, I always tip between 1-20g depending on the rarity, level of the enchant and if rep is required to get it. And most times, I supply the mats and already know what they are before looking for someone to do it.

[teacake]

I feel like a cheapskate reading this thread.. I have only ever tipped 30 silver, but I have had very basic boxes. I just found one in the Outlands so maybe it's a bit better and I will pay them a gold, lol. I have never been refused tipping. I'm not in a guild and it has taken me weeks to get them opened sometimes.

As a mage I have always just accepted what people offer for ports which has been anywhere from 2 silver to 3 gold. If I've just grouped or even talked with the person a bit I tell them no charge. I can't imagine anyone charging for water or food.

[clevins]

Don't worry about it. I'll get asked occasionally to open a few boxes and always do it. Never ask for a tip. I'll take one from 70s if they put the gold in Trade but meh... it takes a few seconds and costs me nothing. Usually the boxes contain a green of some sort that's just worth a few gold... so it's not like I'm helping them get blues a lot etc.

[Jurija]

I always put 1g in the trade box, or maybe more if it has taken me a long time to get a rogue to open it.

As a BS i rarely get tips, but then again i rarely get customers either