49 - 60...?

[Topbananas]

So i'm level 49 now, about 2/3 through and rested until the end of the level. I plan to quest and grind in Searing Gorge to 50, but then where should I go?

I want to get to 60 in Azeroth, and go into outlands at 60, not 58.

I appreciate your advice, thanks :)

[Khab]

49-50 Tanaris
50-50 Azshara
50-50 Hinterlands
50-51 Blasted Lands
51-52 Un'Goro Crater
52-53 Burning Steppes
53-54 Azshara
54-54 Felwood
54-55 Winterspring
55-55 Felwood
55-55 Silithus
55-56 Western Plaguelands
56-57 Eastern Plaguelands
57-58 Western Plaguelands
58-60 Winterspring

Not really sure about Alliance

[corga]

58-60 in azeroth is stupid there are no quests just a giant grind

[Topbananas]

58-60 in azeroth is stupid there are no quests just a giant grind

How did people manage it before TBC then?

[frimley]

58-60 in azeroth is stupid there are no quests just a giant grind

Thats just not true anymore with the increased levelling speed - I had loads of quests left when I got to 60 on my alt; in fact, I stayed in Azeroth until 62, because I wanted to do some of them for old times sake and nostalgia, and even went back and dinged 64 in Scholomance.

[Topbananas]

I just have a friend whos levelling his alt whilst he waits for me to get to outlands and he hasn't gone there and he just dinged 60.

[det]

58-60 in azeroth is stupid there are no quests just a giant grind

Wot? 58 to 60 is actually easier to achieve in Azeroth ^^

I am still in Un Goro at 58, haven't even touched WPL or EPL....

Ashzara with like 6 quests is worth a full level. Kill some BE, find some rune, find some equipment, fill 4 vials...it is insane. Recovering and delivering the 4 tablet shards (with your HS in Shattrath is like 15 mins work and 36 000 XP.

The Silithus quests where you kill Crushers and other assorted vermin are like 10 000 XP each. That is Outland niveau....sure, the mobs itself give less XP, but they hit like sissies, not like trucks in Outland.

I am certainly grabbing all that XP before I hit Outland..have done so on 3 alts now and will do on no 4 and 5 ^^

[Lobothomy]

Exactly, after leveling 3 char's from 58 to 70 in outland, I know I'll level my forth in Azeroth before i set foot in outlands. Basically 2 advantages:

1. As det pointed out: q's in HFP are alot easier when you are 60 as compared to 58.
2. You will ding 70 sooner and thus have more unfinished q's left in Outlands. This means more $$.

[Dhoum]

58-60 in azeroth is stupid there are no quests just a giant grind

Well all I can say is that you must be playing a completely different game to the one that's on my PC. I had more quests than I had any use for from 56-60, I popped into Outlands at 58 just to complete the initial gear quests and then back to Azeroth to finish up the quests I had in my log. I didn't go anywhere the Burning Steppes, Silithus or the Plaguelands and quested the whole way. The only grinding I did was quest-related.

[irogue]

The quest reward gears are much better and useful in the outland than in the old lands.

All my 3 70s went in outland at 58 and hit 60 in a few hours. If the time spent in the outland and the old lands between lvl 58 and 60 are close, I would rather level it in the outland.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

58-60 in azeroth is stupid there are no quests just a giant grind

Wait, there probably are more quests 58 - 60 in Azeroth than there are in all of Hellfire Peninsula, Zangermarsh, and Terrokar Forest. Now, of course, I think it is kinda dumb in general to quest 58 - 60 in Azeroth because you get better XP per kill (double XP per kill) from Outland compared to Azeroth, better quest rewards in Outland (money & items), and honestly, you'll ding to 60 in about 6 quests or so, thanks to the reduction in the amount of XP needed to ding to 59 & 60 in 2.3. You really aren't saving anything by waiting to 60, only honestly, wasting your own time and energy (from an efficiency standpoint). But, there are people who do it, so hats off to them.

[Janfader]

The quest reward gears are much better and useful in the outland than in the old lands.

All my 3 70s went in outland at 58 and hit 60 in a few hours. If the time spent in the outland and the old lands between lvl 58 and 60 are close, I would rather level it in the outland.

True story ^^

All my alts as well... soon as they hit 58, all Azeroth quests are dropped and I go to Outlands.

Rule of thumb here: All gear in outlands that you acquire at lvl 58 are far superior to Azeroth. Exp rewards as well GOLD are far superior to that of Azeroth. WTF>? How can people say Azeroth has better drops and exp than Outlands???? Ummm.. bonus exp still remains in Outlands when you are 58,59.:thumbsup: So much more exp too IMO in outlands. It's a no brainer and no need to discuss otherwise.

End.

[frimley]

The "my way or the highway" attitude gets really old really quickly.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

The "my way or the highway" attitude gets really old really quickly.

Who's had the "my way or the highway" attitude? I love replies where it isn't easy to figure out what the reply is referencing.

[caldepen]

I love it in forums when one post gets slaughtered (like the one by Corga) for a page or so and then somebody comes on and says hey it wasn't such a bad idea! And then everybody jumps on that bandwagon for another page until somebody swings it back the other way! Rich...

So I will swing it back...

58-60 in azeroth is stupid there are no quests just a giant grind

Buddy you are soooo wrong! Azeroth rules man, Outland is for sissys and not as pleasing to the eye.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

I figured frimley wasn't commenting on that post again, he already did. I figured that since this is a later part of the discussion, he was referring to something later, or else, he'd have let people know he was still stuck on the same thing. I mean, the flow of conversation, the lack of a quote, leaves a person to assume he was replying to the post directly above his, and it makes no logical sense.

[frimley]

WTF>? How can people say Azeroth has better drops and exp than Outlands???? Ummm.. bonus exp still remains in Outlands when you are 58,59.:thumbsup: So much more exp too IMO in outlands. It's a no brainer and no need to discuss otherwise.

End.

It was in response to this post - particularly the bolded line. And because no one actually said that Azeroth has better drops or exp than Outlands.

[det]

Aye, the "no brainer...etc" line is a "my way or the highway" attitude in my book.

I mean, don't forget our mains went to Outland in flashy gear and all...and some people like to twink their alt. Yes, for some classes Outland is easier than other, but a friend of mine decided to hit Outland on his lv 58 mage with 2200 HP and it wasn't really such a great idea.

I agree on the better XP per mob, not really on the better XP per quest (as I said...Azeroth quests in the 58-60 bracket are 10k XP more often than not.)

But the Outland mobs have a good deal more HP, hit harder, are packed tighter with elite patrols etc etc.

So, yeah..it really isn't such a no brainer for everyone... And for all who just like to jump in and flame, let me quote the OP and I underlined some statements for y'all:

So i'm level 49 now, about 2/3 through and rested until the end of the level. I plan to quest and grind in Searing Gorge to 50, but then where should I go?

I want to get to 60 in Azeroth, and go into outlands at 60, not 58.

I appreciate your advice, thanks :)

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

In the light of what Janfader posted though, the logical conclusion was reached. When viewing it from the position of money, XP, and item rewards, Outlands is the obvious choice. IF you have different reasons to stay in Azeroth, that is fine as well. But the Outlands quests give far better rewards than Azeroth ones.

Further, the idea of "you'll have more quests to get more $$$ at 70" idea is a bit of a fallacy. What with the Daily quests and such which render that argument less effective. Especially since we're talking about less than one day's worth of daily quests to do.

Oh... and I had one character in Tier 0.5 gear when he entered Outland, I had a total of two characters enter Outland at 60, and I had two at 58. Of those, one of the 58's is what I pushed to get an epic flying mount with. I didn't have a shortage of gold coming in, even though I entered at 58.

Now, if you like Azeroth, that's cool. I mean, tehre's fewer people there, so less competition for the mobs. But I did not see any difference between getting slaughtered in EP or getting slaughtered in HFP when I brought my Warrior recently into her 60's.

[det]

Hahaha..now we are talking approach to the game :)

I kinda like the stressless gaming. And Hellfire with Felreavers and the warzony feeling always has me on the edge of my seat. I kinda like to do my initial quests in Zangamarsh, Ding 61 or so there and then do Hellfire,, hehe.

That said...as the great Osiris put it in his rogue guide: "Green is good". You kill faster, mobs hit weaker and that way I try to squeeze every last bit of XP from a zone within reason. Not going back for 1 quests, but I finished Un Goro and hit the WS and Silithus FPs now in the 57 and 58 range on my warrior and shammy. The warrior was started under the old XP system and is at 5.5 days to 58, the shammy under the new system at 3 days 20 hours to 58.

So no "getting slaughtered" for me, not in Azeroth, not in Outland...but again, this is personal playing style.

[Tr1cK]

I think it's smart to get as high level as you can in Azeroth, within reason, so that you hit 70 sooner in Outland and can do the rest of the quest for flying mount gold. I plan on hitting 61 or 62 on my hunter before stepping out there to quest. I will jump out there real quick to upgrade my skills as skinning is already maxed at level 50 and leatherworking is not far behind.

[caldepen]

Outlands is the obvious choice.

But it wasn't a choice at all. The op said he was going to Outland at 60 so commenting and offering advice about something he did not ask is a waste of time. If I ask should I drink coke or pepsi don't tell me to drink apple juice!

[cyradis2003]

I wish I had stayed in Azeroth for the extra 2 levels. (4 in my case)

I went to Outlands on my hunter at 56 because )"hey, I have a pet ... I am tough!") It was a slogfest grind for 2 levels the bright spot was that I maxed skinning before 60. I then too the quests for a lvl 58 and zoomed through those only to be left sitting on a pile for group quests and done with HFP just as I dinged 60. I headed to Zangarmarsh and hit the xp wall ... the change in leveling speed at 60 was HUGE for me. I cleared all of the Zangar q's and headed to terrokar/Nagrand. I made 64 in terrokar and swung back to solo group q's in HFP 65 to 68 in Blades edge 68 - 70 in Netherstorm.

So now I am 70 and have 1/2 netherstorm and all of shadowmoon q's to do for epic mount money. If I had started at 60 in HFP I would probably have dinged 70 in Blades edge and still have all of the Netherstorm q's as well.


This was just my way of play though:
I have not instanced on this toon since she is just for goofing off when no one needed my priest. I avoided the grinds and the group quests as much as possible. I solo'd the whole time.

[Kaldresh]

I watched my son finally ding 58, head straight for the portal, then curse at the computer screen for three days until he leveled enough that he wasn't slaughtered every 5 minutes. The rewards may be greater, but apparently so is the repair bill.

After watching him struggle through to 60-61, I decided I'd wait til 60 to head for Outlands as well. For the OP: I'm lvl 53 in Aszhara (sp?) and the XP is great.

[irogue]

But it wasn't a choice at all. The op said he was going to Outland at 60 so commenting and offering advice about something he did not ask is a waste of time. If I ask should I drink coke or pepsi don't tell me to drink apple juice!

LOL. Sorry, I have to say it.

Yes, I would tell you not to drink both because they are bad for you. :grin:

"Should I smoke or drink?"
Lots of people will tell me "No" to both, right? :smiley:

It is OP's choice to enter the outland at 58, 60 or even later. We just provide the OP some alternates to choose from - inside the box or outside the box.

Cheers

[caldepen]

Coke, pepsi, just bubbles and black water...
Azeroth and Outland, just ones and zeros...

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

Coke, pepsi, just bubbles and black water...
Azeroth and Outland, just ones and zeros...

There is the option to overgeneralize something to the point of ridiculousness.

[SwervinCL]

BUT you can't get to 70 in Azeroth... And Nagrand is VERY pleasing to the eye.. :devil:

[irogue]

BUT you can't get to 70 in Azeroth... And Nagrand is VERY pleasing to the eye.. :devil:

You could.

If you are really, really, really bored... grind mobs in Eastern Plaguelands till 67 or 68 and then head to Deadwind Pass to grind those mobs around kara.

I assume no one has ever done or will ever do that.

:grin:

[SwervinCL]

You could.

If you are really, really, really bored... grind mobs in Eastern Plaguelands till 67 or 68 and then head to Deadwind Pass to grind those mobs around kara.

I assume no one has ever done or will ever do that.

:grin:

Could you imagine grinding those mobs for 2-3 levels... Screw that.. lol

[Solarious]

As I see it, the better gear you'll get in Outlands is more important than the easier mobs out in the old world. If Nax gear gets tossed out the window for what you'll get through the Portal, it means you'll kill that much faster, and it means you'll be able to massacre all those XP rich mobs and reap the gold and upgrades that much sooner.

I do see the point of sticking it out in Azeroth though: some places need to be experienced because they're there, and the 20% XP boost still makes leveling mostly painless.

[Pin]

You could.

If you are really, really, really bored... grind mobs in Eastern Plaguelands till 67 or 68 and then head to Deadwind Pass to grind those mobs around kara.

I assume no one has ever done or will ever do that.

:grin:

I seem to remember reading about someone who did do this on another site. IIRC it was so that he could do ALL the quests in outlands for the epic mount money.

Must have taken forever though, I think you'd make more money spending the time grinding as a 70 :)

[Topbananas]

I seem to remember reading about someone who did do this on another site. IIRC it was so that he could do ALL the quests in outlands for the epic mount money.

Must have taken forever though, I think you'd make more money spending the time grinding as a 70 :)

To be quite honest, if faced with the option of castration and 60-70 in Azeroth, it probably wouldn't be the latter.

[Xmcdaniel]

Hahaha..now we are talking approach to the game :)

I kinda like the stressless gaming. And Hellfire with Felreavers and the warzony feeling always has me on the edge of my seat. I kinda like to do my initial quests in Zangamarsh, Ding 61 or so there and then do Hellfire,, hehe.

That said...as the great Osiris put it in his rogue guide: "Green is good". You kill faster, mobs hit weaker and that way I try to squeeze every last bit of XP from a zone within reason. Not going back for 1 quests, but I finished Un Goro and hit the WS and Silithus FPs now in the 57 and 58 range on my warrior and shammy. The warrior was started under the old XP system and is at 5.5 days to 58, the shammy under the new system at 3 days 20 hours to 58.

So no "getting slaughtered" for me, not in Azeroth, not in Outland...but again, this is personal playing style.

Dude you're a leveling machine! I've got about 2 days played on my pally and I'm at 40. I think I may be able to match you on the shammy come to think of it.