Diablo 3 and WWI in June

[Asteria]

Did anyone here cross over from Diablo 2?

There have been a lot of rumors for Diablo 3 http://diabloii.net/w/index.php/Diablo_3 and they aren't all that unconvincing and as WWI is just around the corner the whole idea of Diablo 3 being announced soon is seeming more a possibility now.

If it were would you consider leaving WoW for it? It would more than likely be 2 years off but WoW will still be a popular game at that time.

Interesting thing is this poll http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=649908 which asked Do you want Diablo 3 to be an MMORPG?. 16% say yes and 83% say no! That difference surprises me.

[lqheadoff]

OMG .. yes i heard some stuff about diablo 3 aswell.. but i was like wtf ! is there really a diablo 3 coming up ? i asked some people and i found out that blizz had made it but actualy they dnt want to realse it because it will still the population of wow and i got the feeling that that diablo will pwn all online games ever made if they actualy release it.. which im not so sure about..

[jschild]

Diablo 3 is not made yet.

It will almost certainly not be a full MMO in the ilk of WoW.

It will almost certainly have much expanded multiplayer, however.

It took them 8? years to put out starcraft 2. They are working on it almost certainly, but until it is almost finished, they will not talk about it much.

Don't obsess on something you haven't even seen once. Your fantasies about a game will never match the reality. With Blizz at least it will come close however :)

[Twoflower]

noone knows. except blizzard, and they dont tell.

every other thing you say about Diablo III is TOTAL speculation and not worth the time or the energy to read.

case closed.

[Kalos]

Let's just say that over the years I have heard claim after claim that Diablo III/ Starcraft II / completely new series was around the corner. Very few of the rumours ever panned out dispite their claims of "Wait 6 months and see!" in most part. It's just another round of rumours, and should be treated with no more or less suspition than the last fifty or so times people have spun this yarn. Eventually, if you keep throwing darts around the place you will hit the dart board with enough shots, no matter how bad a player you are. Don't get your hopes up that this throw is the lucky one however.

[semiiramiis]

grr... i was looking in blizz sites, forums, other web site, asking friends and other players but i never managed to find out if blizz is actualy going to release Diablo 3... ive hurd murmors that Diablo 3 is alredy made but they dhnt want to release it because its gonna steal wow's population.. but if thats true im not sure i checked blizzard.com but nothing there for diablo 3... so are they really hiding it and wont realese it or they jsut havent decided to make it or not.. cuz if they do realse i can bet 99% of the wow players will quit wow because Diablo 3 will be the best of the mmorpg games ever made.. it will be just amazing game... take for e.g diablo 2 is 98s-99s game and is just so cool image the new diablo... which will be 2008-2009...:laugh:


It would be much more likely for Blizzard to hold onto a completed Diablo sequel to protect the upcoming Starcraft II launch than to protect WoW. I don't see them changing Diablo to be a mmorpg. If and that's a big if...they're working on one, it would be held to allow the already announced Starcraft to get as much of the market sales it would get before they began serious work to get another game on the shelves.

Did anyone here cross over from Diablo 2?

There have been a lot of rumors for Diablo 3 http://diabloii.net/w/index.php/Diablo_3 and they aren't all that unconvincing and as WWI is just around the corner the whole idea of Diablo 3 being announced soon is seeming more a possibility now.

If it were would you consider leaving WoW for it? It would more than likely be 2 years off but WoW will still be a popular game at that time.

Interesting thing is this poll http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=649908 which asked Do you want Diablo 3 to be an MMORPG?. 16% say yes and 83% say no! That difference surprises me.


I would not leave WoW for Diablo, even if diablo was a mmorpg. Also... the thought of Blizzard Server support trying to handle a second mmorpg makes my head spin. I would prefer to see it as it always has been, perhaps with multiplayer support...but definitely not massively multi.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

I personally think it is far more likely that Blizz will announce a StarCraft MMO than Diablo III, but only Blizz knows for sure what they've got brewing in the back rooms.

[lqheadoff]

I would not leave WoW for Diablo, even if diablo was a mmorpg. Also... the thought of Blizzard Server support trying to handle a second mmorpg makes my head spin. I would prefer to see it as it always has been, perhaps with multiplayer support...but definitely not massively multi.

mat wat are u on about ? if blizz made diablo 3 mmorpg that will eb the coolest game ever made.. diablo is jsut multiplayer games if it comes out as mmorpg it will be just amazing and nearly half of the wow populaton will leave wow

It would be much more likely for Blizzard to hold onto a completed Diablo sequel to protect the upcoming Starcraft II launch than to protect WoW. I don't see them changing Diablo to be a mmorpg. If and that's a big if...they're working on one, it would be held to allow the already announced Starcraft to get as much of the market sales it would get before they began serious work to get another game on the shelves.

anyway... if blizz is going to made any other mmorpg ... that wont be starcraft 2... the only reason is i have seen a gamplay on starcraft with protos and if i have to be serious is not much different... so if they are going to du another mmorpg game that would be diablo 3.. + it will be mmorpg free... so i think up to 2 years wow is going down with amazing speed...

[jschild]

There is not a single reason for Blizz to have 2 fantasy MMO's.

Thus, they won't make 2.

Ummm...yeah.

Blizz is going to make a 2nd MMO to directly compete with the biggest MMO cash cow in history.

And they will make it free.

Didn't you learn in 1st grade the rules about sharing? If you don't have enough drugs for everyone, you can't have any yourself :)

Seriously, Diablo 3 will not be a full blown MMO, if and when it is released. It will have expanded multiplayer beyond D2, but it will almost certainly not be a MMO.

[lqheadoff]

yes is true ... 4.6 milion ppl play wow around the world right now and pay £9 per mount that loads of money.. but is not all about that, and even if blizz doesnt make it full mmo it will still beat wow any way if they release it... for eg check the D2 thats a legend game and is 98-99s so... think about it wat D3 will be like when it is 2009-2010.. think about it wow is 2003... the graphics, the game play everything will be ahead of wow

[jschild]

Ummm...no. 10+ million people have paying subscriptions for WoW.

Blizz simply would not kill a cash cow. No business would do anything so foolish. If Blizz was on a major decline, maybe. But since it is not, they will not do it.

Diablo works best as a MP game, not a mmo. There is nowhere the same rich history and world that WoW has. When WoW does decline, there will probably be a WoW 2 to replace it.

[Shellar]

And while we're covering all the possible angles, have you considered the idea of Diablo 3 as a competitive multiplayer "e-sport" game?

[lqheadoff]

And while we're covering all the possible angles, have you considered the idea of Diablo 3 as a competitive multiplayer "e-sport" game?

hmm... yes we have actualy... and btw still... if diablo 3 will be again jsut an mp game will still steal loads of wow players.. no doubt about that one.. wait until starcraft 2 comes on the shops.. and even after this diablo 3... wow will be like with half players less

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

I'm still highly suspicious about a Diablo III just yet. I'd say it is far more likely for a StarCraft MMO to be launched. Just look at the path Blizzard took with WC3 & WoW. WC3 basically set up the world for WoW to start... and they were build concurrently. Blizzard's people have more or less continuously shut down ideas of Diablo being in the works, while are more or less seen dodging talks of a StarCraft MMO in interviews. They refuse to talk about either idea, it just seems to me that there is a kind of finality in the statements about Diablo III, as opposed to the avoidance which is in any comments about a StarCraft MMO.

But, time will tell. Who knows... Blizz has probably enough capital to possibly do both if they wanted now.

[lqheadoff]

yea.. the WC3 is the biggest issue to start the world of wow but wow is not based only on WC3 and the starcraft just simply cant be a memo cuz is a rp strategy .. you dnt turn strategys so easy to mmos...

[jschild]

yea.. the WC3 is the biggest issue to start the world of wow but wow is not based only on WC3 and the starcraft just simply cant be a memo cuz is a rp strategy .. you dnt turn strategys so easy to mmos...

Starcraft just simply cannot be a MMO because it is a RP Strategy game?

Have you even played Warcraft 1, 2, or 3?

[Kalos]

Starcraft just simply cannot be a MMO because it is a RP Strategy game?

Have you even played Warcraft 1, 2, or 3?
What he said. Warcraft was an RTS for three games and several expansions/re-releases/special editions ect. They turned that into WoW very well. Why would Starcraft being an RTS be such an obsticle when clearly Warcraft being an RTS series wasn't?

Considering WoW is arguably one of the most successful MMORPGs made to date, apparently being based of an RTS gives you more of a chance to be successful, not less. Whatever you're saying Iqheadoff, it may make sense on Mars, but this is Earth and it certainly does not here. What you are saying does not reflect reality.

[jschild]

Well, to be fair, having a long history of successful games with a good history probably helped more.

C&C, Elder Scrolls, and such would all probably be more likely to be successful MMO's just based on their popularity if done correctly.

But yeah...saying Starcraft cannot be a MMO because it is a RTS, just...boggles the mind.

I would welcome a well done AND accessible scifi MMO. Combat system would have to be reworked. Wouldn't want it to be WoW with aliens and laser rifles instead of bows.

[bearbehind]

The history in the game is a real joy - Like walking into Lorderon's ruins and remebering the city getting razed in WC3.

I played Diablo - but the sheer scale and richness was not there - just a few towns really. I don't think you could easily make a MMORPG very well from it - there's just not enough there to work with.

Starcraft 2 could set up a properly structured world(s) to bring to life in a Starcraft MMO if/when Blizz decide to scrap WOW and launch a new one.

[Shellar]

I would welcome a well done AND accessible scifi MMO. Combat system would have to be reworked. Wouldn't want it to be WoW with aliens and laser rifles instead of bows.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Starcraft MMORPG turned out to be a casual-friendly version of EVE Online (with tons of lore and famous Blizzard polish thrown in).

[jschild]

Lol, the "accessible" was directly pointed at EVE Online.

I would love to see a starcraft MMO, but I doubt if that is gonna happen anytime soon.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Starcraft MMORPG turned out to be a casual-friendly version of EVE Online (with tons of lore and famous Blizzard polish thrown in).

Well, I'd not be surprised if Blizzard took the better ideas from a variety of Sci-Fi MMOs, and blended them. Blizzard doesn't exactly go and just borrow ideas from one source (ref: WoW). So, maybe a little EVE Online, maybe a little Planetside, maybe a little Anarchy Online...

I could easily see it be something where the (potentially) three races/factions are really, really different... not even necessarily playing the same "game" (different mechanics and such)... The idea of missions (quests) for the Terrans makes sense, and maybe even for Protoss... but it makes less sense for the Zerg. It would be really interesting if it had some FPS elements in it, particularly in combat, rather than the way combat is handled in WoW.

Lol, the "accessible" was directly pointed at EVE Online.

I would love to see a starcraft MMO, but I doubt if that is gonna happen anytime soon.

I wouldn't write off a StarCraft MMO completely. Blizzard was hiring people specifically for a next-gen sci-fi MMO not too far back, after all. I could easily see them concurrently do this while working on StarCraft II. Heck, some of the ideas were already somewhat developed with SC:Ghost, Blizz could simply take some of those ideas, and expand on them making a full-fledged MMO from that.

[jschild]

Yeah, i put "anytime soon" because I think they will make it. Blizzard likes to take their time on stuff, I even if they started on it last year, we will probably not see it until 2011-2012.

Of course, people complain about the slow pace, but then their games are released with virtually no bugs and sell a gazillion copies, so I guess they are doing something very right.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

Yeah, i put "anytime soon" because I think they will make it. Blizzard likes to take their time on stuff, I even if they started on it last year, we will probably not see it until 2011-2012.

Of course, people complain about the slow pace, but then their games are released with virtually no bugs and sell a gazillion copies, so I guess they are doing something very right.

It is evidence that a hard unrealistic deadline does not promote good programming practices.

I'd honestly not be surprised if Blizzard revealed their next "big" project -- beit Diablo 3 or StarCraft MMO or what-have-you at the WWI.

[jschild]

That would be cool, and I'd buy it for sure whenever it does finally come out.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

Strange things seem to be afoot (http://uk.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=26370193&part=rss&tag=gs_news&subj=6190238)...

[Valas Azuviir]

My guess, they just wanted the domain name in advance, before they actually start work on it. It doesn't have to mean, that they'll announce that they're already working on it at the next WWI.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

My guess, they just wanted the domain name in advance, before they actually start work on it. It doesn't have to mean, that they'll announce that they're already working on it at the next WWI.

True enough, but similar things happened with the Burning Crusade, and Wrath of the Lich Kking domains, as well as the StarCraft 2 domain if memory serves. It could mean nothing, but Blizzard does have a history of doing this kind of thing. So who knows, as I said, there is "strange things afoot".

[Elly]

My guess, they just wanted the domain name in advance, before they actually start work on it. It doesn't have to mean, that they'll announce that they're already working on it at the next WWI.

They started work on it years ago (2003). The only questions remaining are did they can development on it a 2nd time and if not when is it due to be released.

[Felix Niebuhr]

If your looking for Diablo III then be sure to check out how Mythos is coming along. For the first time in a long row of attempts it seems and sounds as if someone is getting it right. Theres a link to Mythos.net on the top of this page.

And about Blizz making another MMO... Might be right now seemingly redundant, as they hold such a huge share of the market. But a bad business move? maybe not as bad as many seem to think. Look at how the television channels branch out and divide their channels into specialised sub categories of their main channel. Discovery this and Discovery that for example. At the end of the day two channels with 6 million viewers each beats one channel with 10 million viewers.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

If your looking for Diablo III then be sure to check out how Mythos is coming along. For the first time in a long row of attempts it seems and sounds as if someone is getting it right. Theres a link to Mythos.net on the top of this page.

And about Blizz making another MMO... Might be right now seemingly redundant, as they hold such a huge share of the market. But a bad business move? maybe not as bad as many seem to think. Look at how the television channels branch out and divide their channels into specialised sub categories of their main channel. Discovery this and Discovery that for example. At the end of the day two channels with 6 million viewers each beats one channel with 10 million viewers.

I think a new MMO wouldn't necessarily be a bad move, if it attracted a large enough percentage of a new audience. A Diablo MMO might be too similar to WoW (both are fantasy), but a StarCraft MMO could attract a whole new crowd (the Sci-fi MMO crowd that has been lacking a decent MMO for well, ever from what I've read). So, it depends. Yes, ther will be people who want to play both. And if Blizzard does the one smart thing that SOE ever did -- sharing one monthly fee to play any SOE MMOs, then Blizzard will not lose any money at all, and could just make their popularity & customer base multiply, rather than divide.

[redrudy]

If it's playability was as good as Diablo 2 was when it was released and the world transferred well to an MMO as the Warcraft universe did I would certainly buy it and take a break from wow for a few months.

If it captured me as D2 did then yes I would probably let my wow sub lapse.

[Leord]

I'm getting more and more sure We'll see D3 at WWI. The PC Gamer rumour was debunked, but it didn't make sense anyway. Why would they get an exclusive as a print magazine? It isn't like they can deliver mags on Saturdays that effectively anyway...