Conspicuous Wealth

[teacake]

On my server there is a Bank alt, lvl 1 or 2 who hangs out at Ironforge. She has an Azure Whelping as a pet. Thought this was quite hilarious (they are around 500g on my server).

Felt bad for my bank alt after seeing that and bought him a parrot. Not quite the same thing though..

[odinsnephew]

Bank alts are the richest players in the game and they deserve a pet or some nice clothes to look good ;)

[ahhdamm]

lol, ya i got my bank alt decked out. it's like gearing them up for what they do.

[teacake]

My bank alt looks pretty good now, though I'm sure he'd rather be out slaying stuff, lol.

[Ilianis]

tuxedo ftw...

[Kojima]

I second that ! My lovely little bank alt looks damn hawt in his little Tuxedo.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

Bah, who needs bank alts?

[det]

Maybe you don't...I do need one :)

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

Maybe you don't...I do need one :)

All my characters just share everything they have. I'm always confused why for the need of a character dedicated to be a bank, when every character you have (per faction, per server) can easily just move things around between each other. I have 5 alliance, and 5 horde characters, and don't need even 1 bank alt...

[det]

Ok, yeah..my bad...I confused bank with AH alt..but I guess it is what a few people in this thread do too. My lv 43 druid holds all my cloth, my lv 70 mage all herbs and ores. So what I really mean is: I need an AH alt ---> which typically is my lowest level or currently least played character. My rogue stood at lv 15 and was my bank and AH toon for the longest time (held enchnating mats for my main, when bankspots still cost 100 gold (or even more for the last one?) and there were no profession bags for many professions. Now he is lv 70 and mostly in Outland, hence the "need" for an AH alt.

[Tort]

All my characters just share everything they have. I'm always confused why for the need of a character dedicated to be a bank, when every character you have (per faction, per server) can easily just move things around between each other. I have 5 alliance, and 5 horde characters, and don't need even 1 bank alt...

Because it is so much easier to put non soul-bound items in one place, and then go to that toon to grab them. My bank-alt holds all my extra netherweave, my primals and motes, really anything that can be stacked and isn't soulbound.

So really, what's the point in not having a bank-alt? I can guarantee that I can log onto my bank alt toon (who just stands by the mailbox for this very reason) and send whatever I need to any of my other toons quicker than you can log onto one of your toons, fly or hearth to a bank or mailbox, go through your bags and then mail it out. Especially with the new changes to mailing, my other toons get these items instantly.

And anyway, 90% of my bag and bank space is used up by soulbound items. I have at least 5 sets of armor I use for end-game tanking, 2 bags full of sentimental items, another bag full of holiday stuff. All soulbound. I just don't have the room to hold all my non-soulbound items on my main toon.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

Because it is so much easier to put non soul-bound items in one place, and then go to that toon to grab them. My bank-alt holds all my extra netherweave, my primals and motes, really anything that can be stacked and isn't soulbound.

So really, what's the point in not having a bank-alt? I can guarantee that I can log onto my bank alt toon (who just stands by the mailbox for this very reason) and send whatever I need to any of my other toons quicker than you can log onto one of your toons, fly or hearth to a bank or mailbox, go through your bags and then mail it out. Especially with the new changes to mailing, my other toons get these items instantly.

And anyway, 90% of my bag and bank space is used up by soulbound items. I have at least 5 sets of armor I use for end-game tanking, 2 bags full of sentimental items, another bag full of holiday stuff. All soulbound. I just don't have the room to hold all my non-soulbound items on my main toon.

I don't hold non-soulbound items on my main either, she's got her mining sack, ammo pouch, and a handful of engineering goodies she carries around with her. I'll hand off stuff either to my alts, or I'll put them on the AH for a couple tries, failing that I just sell them.

I just don't see the hassle of sending everything to another character and managing it that way, and how that is any more convenient than just handling it on whatever character you are on. It isn't like you can simultaneously play two characters from the same account... If you had a second account that was managing it, I might see some value in the idea.

[Pharoahe]

pretty short sighted. I like collecting pets, I have about 40 or 50 in the bank. I'm a hoarder of outfits and pets, which take up a ton of bank space. So clearly I need a bank alt because I only like AH'ing once every few days. Also I diss all my Green items and store all the mats. I have a few thousand mats in the bank.
I basically have a bank guild with all my prof. mats. I have gems, engineering supplys etc. I usually horde things and then use at the end of the month or whatever.

[Tort]

I just don't see the hassle of sending everything to another character and managing it that way, and how that is any more convenient than just handling it on whatever character you are on. It isn't like you can simultaneously play two characters from the same account... If you had a second account that was managing it, I might see some value in the idea.

You really can't see the benefit of having one toon, who is always stationed next to a bank, mailbox, and auction house, with an extra 150 or so slots to hold non-soulbound items, and the ability to have all of your stuff on one toon? I think your idea of a hassle is different than mine. For me it would be a far bigger hassle to distribute items between 5-10 toons, and then have to keep track what I am sending to which toon, than it would be to just send everything to one single toon. If I need netherweave, enchanting mats, primals, herbs or whatever, I know exactly where to go.

And anyway, you are assuming everyone has 5-10 toons like you do. I would guess most people don't. I have my main (no more bag space) and one other toon, who is also maxed out on space. I really have no other place to put the items I want to hold on to without a bank alt.

[teacake]

uh.. I don't see how people manage without one. Why waste the time and money traveling to an AH when you are out in the sticks just so you can unload your bags, so you can keep doing the quests you were into atm. Not having one means you can't put off the AH if you need to empty your bags of auctionable stuff.

[Wintrow]

uh.. I don't see how people manage without one. Why waste the time and money traveling to an AH when you are out in the sticks just so you can unload your bags, so you can keep doing the quests you were into atm. Not having one means you can't put off the AH if you need to empty your bags of auctionable stuff.

Yup, nothing like coming back to town selling all gray crap and useless quest rewards to the vendor, then mailing all worthwhile stuff to my AH-alt. Once every couple of days, sometimes a whole week I log onto him, clear the mail, dump the gethering stuff (Netherdrake Scales and such) on the bank, DE the greens and AH the rest.

[Meds tbh]

I just have a guild all to myself. Plenty of bank space :)

[Anyndra]

I'm such a horrible pack rat, my 2 70's have a combined amount of empty slots just a little over the original backpack. And thats with all bank slots in use with big bags, so that I could only improve by getting mooncloth. My lower levels are pretty much the same, but have a bit more space, about one bag per character.

Being like that, I simply can not store my stuff spread a little bit here, a little bit there.So I have all my unbound stuff, like extra Christmas pets and Valentine's Day hearts, mailed on alt that has nothing but those things. I also store future profession mats, like cloth, essences and such on that character, or if his bank overflows I stick them to another alt with most space left.

Since the spot of bank alt changes depending on what alt I decide to pick up this week/month, I'm not decking them out with anything expensive, though. My half a year old lvl 1 alt got nuked to make room for a second priest, and now I'll soon have to find a new home to a full bank of goodies since I'm going to pick up my druid again.

[Mallstrop]

I got my self a guild bank on one of my unused characters, 100g for the first tab but it holds quite a lot of rubbish. It's also great as a way to pass things between me and my brother without having to meet up to trade or wait an hour for the mail between accounts.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

You really can't see the benefit of having one toon, who is always stationed next to a bank, mailbox, and auction house, with an extra 150 or so slots to hold non-soulbound items, and the ability to have all of your stuff on one toon? I think your idea of a hassle is different than mine. For me it would be a far bigger hassle to distribute items between 5-10 toons, and then have to keep track what I am sending to which toon, than it would be to just send everything to one single toon. If I need netherweave, enchanting mats, primals, herbs or whatever, I know exactly where to go.

And anyway, you are assuming everyone has 5-10 toons like you do. I would guess most people don't. I have my main (no more bag space) and one other toon, who is also maxed out on space. I really have no other place to put the items I want to hold on to without a bank alt.

I'm not assuming. I am talking from my personal point of view. I stated I have 10 toons on my server (one for each race, one for each class with an extra hunter). I play them all. To me, a bank alt would be sacrificing one of my characters... for what I've never needed. Don't think for a second I am begrudging those who have bank alts, or condemning them or whatever. I just personally don't see the value of a bank alt. For me.

All of my characters have 18-20 slotters, and all bag slots in the bank as well with the same. I just know which characters need what kind of mats (generally speaking), it is pretty easy for me to keep track of such things. Yet again, I fail to see the value of a bank alt (and yet again, since the impled "for me" is apparently lost on you, I won't make it implied, I mean for me).

[Mallstrop]

I use it for those materials that I don't currently need but may be useful in the future.

My account is similar to yours, one of every class or a holder for that class but rather than a duplicate I have XaaBank, a level 1 human mage who looks after all my banking needs. His main job is to look after auctions, all my other characters send stuff to him and when his bags start to fill up or every weekend it all goes on the AH. This way I only have to check 1 character to check up on my auctions rather than each character doing them seperatly.

As I said above, only 2 of the characters are in a guild, my main and my main grinding alt, the rest sit in my banking guild, it only has 1 tab but that's enough for enchaning materials, primals/motes and rare recipes and resources I may find a use for later. There's a few BoE blues and plans that an alt might need later but anything I don't need tends to get sold on the AH or to a vendor.

[Kojima]

... I honestly don't see why anyone would chose to distribute items to five different characters, when you can manage with just one banker.

- Instantly send any item/potion/drink/food/item to any of your mains/alts

- keeps track of gold profit/losses

- Ready to recieve any BoP/Greenie for auctioneering

- Keeps track of materials/reagents/recepies

I mean, the list of benefits just keeps growing. Anyways, I think I've made my point. To me it's simply easier (plus I've made a little game out of it, since I'm an RP'er)

[elsegundo]

my bank alt is the richest character of all my... erm... 10 characters. lol

[irogue]

You do need an AH alt to avoid ppl contact or bother your main characters. One guy whispered me and argued about the price of "robes of arcana" I listed was too high. Another guy asked me to made him "Dreamweave Circlet" instead of buying the one I listed on the AH.

I don't think I would dress up my bank alts because I don't have time to do that and I eventually will level them up. Pets? I don't think so. It takes up too many spaces. My 4 bank alts have run out of spaces already.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

... I honestly don't see why anyone would chose to distribute items to five different characters, when you can manage with just one banker.

- Instantly send any item/potion/drink/food/item to any of your mains/alts

I don't send drink/food to any alts. My alchemist handles potion distribution. My enchanter gets any greens that don't make it on the AH. My skinner handles leather distribution. My variety of miners handle ore distribution. My JC handles gem distribution, my Blacksmith handles, well, smithing stuff. My engineer stays blissfully selfish for the most part. My tailor handles distributing bags, as well as gets any unused cloth.

- keeps track of gold profit/losses

There's UI mods out there that keep track of total gold for your characters, that's more than enough for me.

- Ready to recieve any BoP/Greenie for auctioneering

If anything, my enchanter tends to get the BoP Greens/Blues/Purples. She puts them up for auction, and if they don't make it after enough times, I either have her shard them, or just sell them depending on situation.

- Keeps track of materials/reagents/recepies

UI mod to handle that, just like the gold. But then again, I don't double up on my crafting professions, so if something is Blacksmithing-related, it goes to my Blacksmith, if something is Engineering-related, it goes to my Engineer, etc. Each character manages his or her own supply of spell reagents. If I remember, I might mail off some to them from other characters, but more often than not, I don't even bother with that.

I mean, the list of benefits just keeps growing. Anyways, I think I've made my point. To me it's simply easier (plus I've made a little game out of it, since I'm an RP'er)

Your point is that it seems to work for you, which is great. It seems to be more complicated and frustrating for how I play, not to mention would result in me sacrificing one of my characters, which I have no plans on doing. My point is that basically, I see no benefit, for how I play. The whole concept of a "bank alt" seems wasteful to me, and not even remotely appealing, or beneficial to me in any way.

And me, I do light RP'ing... I do go through the process of designing a character around a concept, and then build the character equally around that concept, rather than around statistics or such. Sure, you can "roleplay a bank alt", but you can also roleplay without one just as easily, so that isn't what I'd consider an "advantage" :P

my bank alt is the richest character of all my... erm... 10 characters. lol

heh, my Warrior currently is, but that's because she's working on getting the gold for her Epic mount. Well, her and my Hunter are both working on the gold for my Warrior's Epic Flyer.

You do need an AH alt to avoid ppl contact or bother your main characters. One guy whispered me and argued about the price of "robes of arcana" I listed was too high. Another guy asked me to made him "Dreamweave Circlet" instead of buying the one I listed on the AH.

I never have that problem. And if anyone complained, I could always tell them to buy from someone who offers lower. And if there is nobody who offers lower, well... tough luck for them.

[Tort]

Yet again, I fail to see the value of a bank alt (and yet again, since the impled "for me" is apparently lost on you, I won't make it implied, I mean for me).

This thread wasn't about you, it was about the value of using a bank alt. I'm not an idiot, I know you were explaining why you don't use bank alts, but I have every right to point out that your situation is not typical to most players, and why me and many others gladly give up one single character space to use as a bank alt.

Yet again, I understand why you fail to see the value of a bank alt, and, yet again, I am emphasizing the fact that your situation of having maxed out accounts is not typical of most players, and the rest of us will continue on using bank alts. Just in case the concept of other people playing this game in a different manner than you play it "is apparently lost on you."

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

This thread wasn't about you, it was about the value of using a bank alt.

It also is about people being able to voice their opinions on the subject of bank alts, correct? Or is it just people who like bank alts are the ones who can comment on it, those who don't feel the need/desire for them don't get to respond? Seems a bit one-sided.

I'm not an idiot, I know you were explaining why you don't use bank alts, but I have every right to point out that your situation is not typical to most players, and why me and many others gladly give up one single character space to use as a bank alt.

Argument from Popularity aside, I am merely voicing the opposed argument in the discussion, which happens in a discussion (or else, there is no point to having a discussion/debate on the subject). I'm not going to claim that your situation is more common for people, or mine is. And the forum sure as heck is no real strong gauge of the popularity of a situation. All I have offered is an explanation that what some people consider a benefit for having a Bank Alt, others, like myself, do not.

Yet again, I understand why you fail to see the value of a bank alt, and, yet again, I am emphasizing the fact that your situation of having maxed out accounts is not typical of most players, and the rest of us will continue on using bank alts. Just in case the concept of other people playing this game in a different manner than you play it "is apparently lost on you."

Once again, it is an Argument from Popularity, you are apparently claiming that your position is the more common situation. I've made no such claim to the popularity of either position, I've only voiced a contrasting opinion to it. So, unless the concept of other people playing this game in a different manner than you play it "is apparently lost on you" (see how that phrase can work both-ways?), you really shouldn't have any problem with me voicing my opinion, which differs from yours, on this subject. It is obvious that there are people on this forum that do like bank alts, which implies that there are people who like and use bank alts in the game. But that does not mean that everyone does, nor does it even mean that most of them do.

In a debate, there should be the opportunity for different opinions on a subject, shouldn't there?

[elsegundo]

xlorep, i use a bank alt to store a lot of my stuff and to send things to the AH. i dont have characters of every class and profession, so when i get things that, for example, an engineer can use, it goes to my bank alt, and not my engineer since i dont have one. you, however, have a wide array of choices to send things to due to the diversity of your characters. for me, i have two main characters, two "hibernating" characters, and a bank alt. this makes my bank alt a pretty valuable character.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

xlorep, i use a bank alt to store a lot of my stuff and to send things to the AH. i dont have characters of every class and profession, so when i get things that, for example, an engineer can use, it goes to my bank alt, and not my engineer since i dont have one. you, however, have a wide array of choices to send things to due to the diversity of your characters. for me, i have two main characters, two "hibernating" characters, and a bank alt. this makes my bank alt a pretty valuable character.

And I can understand that. I'm not begrudging anyone who uses them. As I've said, I am speaking from my own position, I am not trying to speak for ALL of WoW, just from my position, and those who are from similar positions, nothing more, nothing less. As such, as I've said, I don't see the value of a bank alt, from my position. Maybe there is one for other players, and if there is, cool for them. Everyone plays differently, has different goals and such in the game. That's cool. I'm not saying anything otherwise to that. I'm just saying that for me, I don't see the value of a bank alt. I'm surprised so many people are frustrated with such a claim.

[elsegundo]

i think a lot of people see it as "I don't see the value of your bank alt". which isnt what you've stated, but its what is being communicated. but i know what you're saying. just trying to clear things up i guess.

[Dakiter]

My Bank alt and AH alt are one in the same. Belf in thigh highs no pants and the fancy black shirt. This character gets more whispers then my main!

[elsegundo]

My Bank alt and AH alt are one in the same. Belf in thigh highs no pants and the fancy black shirt. This character gets more whispers then my main!

doing the dance to "toxic" adds to that.

ever since i rolled a hordie, not one day goes by without me seeing an almost naked blood elf dancing on top of the mailbox in Ogrimmar.... makes me wanna take off my tauren's clothes and dance with her, i guess, for the opposite effect.

[Tort]

It also is about people being able to voice their opinions on the subject of bank alts, correct? Or is it just people who like bank alts are the ones who can comment on it, those who don't feel the need/desire for them don't get to respond? Seems a bit one-sided.



Argument from Popularity aside, I am merely voicing the opposed argument in the discussion, which happens in a discussion (or else, there is no point to having a discussion/debate on the subject). I'm not going to claim that your situation is more common for people, or mine is. And the forum sure as heck is no real strong gauge of the popularity of a situation. All I have offered is an explanation that what some people consider a benefit for having a Bank Alt, others, like myself, do not.



Once again, it is an Argument from Popularity, you are apparently claiming that your position is the more common situation. I've made no such claim to the popularity of either position, I've only voiced a contrasting opinion to it. So, unless the concept of other people playing this game in a different manner than you play it "is apparently lost on you" (see how that phrase can work both-ways?), you really shouldn't have any problem with me voicing my opinion, which differs from yours, on this subject. It is obvious that there are people on this forum that do like bank alts, which implies that there are people who like and use bank alts in the game. But that does not mean that everyone does, nor does it even mean that most of them do.

In a debate, there should be the opportunity for different opinions on a subject, shouldn't there?

So in other words, you don't like bank alts, you don't use bank alts. I like bank alts, and I use them. End of story really. Neither side is "right". This isn't an inquisition Xlorep, nobody is going to burn you at the stake for not using a bank alt. We have to save all the forum torches for the Blood Elf Druid posters.

[Kojima]

I second Tort! For a second this almost looked like the beginning of flame war (Xlorep vs forum (unfair!)).

Anyways, I agree 100% xlo, it's all about what works for 'you' as a player. And I can see why you like to keep your characters seperated. :)

Oh and the "little rp game" I talked about, concerning my banker, isn't actual rp events or the like - it's merely me having fun running a little "business", seeing as making money/gold is what I'm good at. Leveling like a mad man never appealed to me, so instead I make lots of gold, and then waste it on nothing or on friends :)

[Tort]

I second Tort! For a second this almost looked like the beginning of flame war (Xlorep vs forum (unfair!)).

Anyways, I agree 100% xlo, it's all about what works for 'you' as a player. And I can see why you like to keep your characters seperated. :)

Oh and the "little rp game" I talked about, concerning my banker, isn't actual rp events or the like - it's merely me having fun running a little "business", seeing as making money/gold is what I'm good at. Leveling like a mad man never appealed to me, so instead I make lots of gold, and then waste it on nothing or on friends :)

Oh hey there Mr. Blood Elf Druid!

:::sets Kojima on fire::::

[Dakiter]

I keep my belfy in Silvermoon. But your right about dancing though lol. I jump up on the auction platform with the auctioneer, bring up the auction screen and just start dancing. She is level 5 and is always buffed and cheered. Its pretty funny. No weirdo whispers yet, but have met some cool folks through their bank alts.

For an instant I thought about starting a guild for Bank/AH Alts only. I would name it something like Merchants Union. Anyway, More power to those of you that can keep track of all the stuff in game without an alt. I personally find it easier and more profitable since I find myself dropping crap less and less and sending it to the alt to sell.

[teacake]

My bank alt got invited to a guild the other night so just for the heck of it he joined (my main is solo). The welcome message said "this guild is a safe place for dwarf and gnome bank alts", LOL.

[TPMdm]

I'm just saying that for me, I don't see the value of a bank alt.

becomes

I don't see the value of a bank alt.

for a lot of people which is kind of frustrating for both parties. And hence the repeated uses people have for them.

I second Tort! For a second this almost looked like the beginning of flame war (Xlorep vs forum (unfair!)).

QTF..... poor forum never had a chance

[Kojima]

Lol tort. thanks, I guess? xD