Mining + Jewelcrafting question

[elsegundo]

Hi guys,
currently im doing the gathering profesisons (mining/skinning) in a new server and have gotten about 500 gold at level 39. not bad, but would like to know when is a good time to switch over to jewelcrafting. need to know mainly for cutting gems. i dont know if any of the rings/necklaces sell well, and i know those trinkets are BoP only (bummer), so i figured maybe i can wait til later to level up jewelcrafting. my question is when will be a good time to switch so i can get decent benefits and gold from it through selling gems or making accessories, or just prospecting ores?

right now mining iron is green to me, and mithril is yellow or orange. not sure. and i know to get to higher level nodes, i'd need to be higher level. i can work on all this.

[mesonm]

In my opinion, keep gathering until at least 70...Start jewelcrafting after you have your flying mount, and maybe also your epic flyer.

You can make money prospecting, but mainly with much higher level ore than you can presently get.

[elsegundo]

ahhh.. i see. i can do that. i make quite a bit of gold already with my professions, so i dont think i really need jewelcrafting really. its just a personal achievement for me. but i'll wait til 70 and epic flyer to change then. i'd like to keep mining since it is the source for jewelcrafting.

im just glad (and surprised) to see that coarse stones sell so well.

[Marlous]

Iron Ore is nice enough to prospect, but Fel Iron Ore and Adamantite Ore are very much preferable.

Also, keep in mind that most of the gemcutting designs are rare world drops, making them incredibly expensive. Those that aren't, require rep in some way (such as the Consortium). In other words, unless you're really set to it you don't want to level jc right now to be able to cut gems. Sure, it's nice to be able to make your own jewels, since you can hardly get those as a quest reward.. but it gets really expensive later on.

[elsegundo]

what exactly can i get from iron?

i think i'll pump some money into the economy once i switch to jewelcrafting and buy ores all the way up to iron. i might just wanna mine my own mithril and up.

[Vandir]

Hi guys,
currently im doing the gathering profesisons (mining/skinning) in a new server and have gotten about 500 gold at level 39. not bad

You've got to be kidding me. O_o
I am on my first character (46 NE druid) and got herbalism and alchemy at level five. I barely have 18g. Herbs don't sell for anything on my server... Although I was lucky enough to have the Swiftness Potion recipe from a drop in Darkshore. Think I should switch over to mining/skinning seeing as alchemy doesn't net much money?

[Marlous]

what exactly can i get from iron?

i think i'll pump some money into the economy once i switch to jewelcrafting and buy ores all the way up to iron. i might just wanna mine my own mithril and up.

Hm, I don't know exactly, but it's gems like Citrine, Star Ruby, Aquamarine, Lesser Moonstone - I've got Auctioneer, which has a part called Enchantrix that gives info in the tooltip on what an item will disenchant/prospect in, and what percentage the odds are for each (that really helps a lot when, for instance, I want to buy cheap items to get some heaps of Illusion Dust). Mithril has the same kind of gems as iron, only higher odds on the better gems. Fel Iron Ore prospects into the basig green Outland gems, such as Blood Garnet and Azure Moonstone, with a small chance of getting a random blue gem like Talasite or Dawnstone. Adamantite Ore nets the same gems as Fel Iron, but has a slightly increased chance of containing a blue gem - and I'm not sure, but it also seems like that ore contains 2 green gems more often than Fel Iron does.

And I honestly wouldn't drop mining, should you have been considering that. Not only because it complements jc so well (I sometimes wish I had it, even though I can't and won't drop tailoring), but also because you can make a great profit by selling stacks of ore (or, in the lower levels, bars) and save a few for your jc.. I know I spent quite a lot of gold buying my mats off the AH, or buying stacks of ore to prospect into gems I could cut for levelling. What do you think it feels like to be well in your 70s and only have 30g on hand? :weep:

[elsegundo]

You've got to be kidding me. O_o
I am on my first character (46 NE druid) and got herbalism and alchemy at level five. I barely have 18g. Herbs don't sell for anything on my server... Although I was lucky enough to have the Swiftness Potion recipe from a drop in Darkshore. Think I should switch over to mining/skinning seeing as alchemy doesn't net much money?i find that herbalism makes decent money later on in the game, say at least level 40 when you're picking khadgar whiskars, goldthorn, and even more when you pick golden sansam, purple lotus, etc.

also keep in mind briarthorn and swiftthistle. briarthorn has more uses than mageroyal, at that level, and swifthistle is in high demand due to the rarity plus many uses it has. you get this from mageroyal and briarthorn nodes. oh and dont forget what most people forget in low levels... stranglekelp.

Hm, I don't know exactly, but it's gems like Citrine, Star Ruby, Aquamarine, Lesser Moonstone - I've got Auctioneer, which has a part called Enchantrix that gives info in the tooltip on what an item will disenchant/prospect in, and what percentage the odds are for each (that really helps a lot when, for instance, I want to buy cheap items to get some heaps of Illusion Dust). Mithril has the same kind of gems as iron, only higher odds on the better gems. Fel Iron Ore prospects into the basig green Outland gems, such as Blood Garnet and Azure Moonstone, with a small chance of getting a random blue gem like Talasite or Dawnstone. Adamantite Ore nets the same gems as Fel Iron, but has a slightly increased chance of containing a blue gem - and I'm not sure, but it also seems like that ore contains 2 green gems more often than Fel Iron does.

And I honestly wouldn't drop mining, should you have been considering that. Not only because it complements jc so well (I sometimes wish I had it, even though I can't and won't drop tailoring), but also because you can make a great profit by selling stacks of ore (or, in the lower levels, bars) and save a few for your jc.. I know I spent quite a lot of gold buying my mats off the AH, or buying stacks of ore to prospect into gems I could cut for levelling. What do you think it feels like to be well in your 70s and only have 30g on hand? :weep:

i see.. thanks so much for the info! yes, im keeping mining! there's no way im letting that go. and i'll never be a level 70 with only 30 gold. maybe after i buy my epic flyer. haha.

[mesonm]

Think I should switch over to mining/skinning seeing as alchemy doesn't net much money?

Yes.

If you want money, alchemy is not on the path.

[Marlous]

i'll never be a level 70 with only 30 gold. maybe after i buy my epic flyer. haha.

Ha, that's what I thought as well. I spend my gold these days on:

- buying 'bargain' jc designs off the AH (har, bargain.. even if it saves me 80g on the design, it still costs me a few hundred g)
- buying the Netherweb Spider Silk and some pieces of Shadowcloth for my FSW set (I already bought the Primal Waters a while ago, when I could get 30 for 15g off the price each)
- buying Mercurial Adamantite, Eternium Ore/Bars, and Fel Iron/Adamantite Ore to get mats for levelling my jc
- buying Illusion Dust for my enchanting alt, who only needs 4 more points to reach 300 so that she'll be able to sell Lifestealing and Crusader enchants

A few days ago I was given 1000g by a friend who was quitting WoW, and I thought that I'd finally come close to my epic flyer this time.. yeah, sure. Fat chance. If I recall correctly, I've got some 1300g on my main at the moment.. never been higher than 2100g, so that epic flyer will be a long way off for me. :tongue:

[mesonm]

If I recall correctly, I've got some 1300g on my main at the moment.. never been higher than 2100g, so that epic flyer will be a long way off for me. :tongue:

Well, you can get around 280g each day, just lazily doing daily's....so, in ten days, you could have 2800+1300 = 5100g....

Sounds about right for the cost of the epic flyer....

Enjoy!

[theshard]

Well, you can get around 280g each day, just lazily doing daily's....so, in ten days, you could have 2800+1300 = 5100g....

Sounds about right for the cost of the epic flyer....

Enjoy!

Wish I had the time for 25 dailies everyday. As it is, I might be able to get about 10 in and maybe an instance.

[mesonm]

Wish I had the time for 25 dailies everyday. As it is, I might be able to get about 10 in and maybe an instance.

Well, the instance must be worth alot to you, since if you cut that out, you'd likely have most of the time needed for the other 15 quests....

[elsegundo]

Ha, that's what I thought as well. I spend my gold these days on:

- buying 'bargain' jc designs off the AH (har, bargain.. even if it saves me 80g on the design, it still costs me a few hundred g)
- buying the Netherweb Spider Silk and some pieces of Shadowcloth for my FSW set (I already bought the Primal Waters a while ago, when I could get 30 for 15g off the price each)
- buying Mercurial Adamantite, Eternium Ore/Bars, and Fel Iron/Adamantite Ore to get mats for levelling my jc
- buying Illusion Dust for my enchanting alt, who only needs 4 more points to reach 300 so that she'll be able to sell Lifestealing and Crusader enchants

A few days ago I was given 1000g by a friend who was quitting WoW, and I thought that I'd finally come close to my epic flyer this time.. yeah, sure. Fat chance. If I recall correctly, I've got some 1300g on my main at the moment.. never been higher than 2100g, so that epic flyer will be a long way off for me. :tongue:
i see. wow your wow experience seems awesome though. everyone's different and as long as you're able to manage your gold, im sure you'll be fine. i've been farming my spider sillk, which is easy to me since i take three or four at a time, loot, and move on. but now for the primals and things, i'll have to buy those. im not even level 70 yet so its still the least of my worries. i dont even have my dreadsteed! but maybe i should get off my lazy butt and go do these things... perhaps i'll be broke by then. we'll see.

[theshard]

Well, the instance must be worth alot to you, since if you cut that out, you'd likely have most of the time needed for the other 15 quests....

I usually try to run one for rep with whichever faction I am currently working on, or run a Heroic on my rogue. But yes, you are correct when I don't run an instance I get alot more dailies done.

[Marlous]

i see. wow your wow experience seems awesome though. everyone's different and as long as you're able to manage your gold, im sure you'll be fine. i've been farming my spider sillk, which is easy to me since i take three or four at a time, loot, and move on. but now for the primals and things, i'll have to buy those. im not even level 70 yet so its still the least of my worries. i dont even have my dreadsteed! but maybe i should get off my lazy butt and go do these things... perhaps i'll be broke by then. we'll see.

Hmm, I tried farming that silk, but if you need to kill almost 40 spiders for 2 lousy pieces of silk, you grow tired of it soon enough. The primals (not just water, but any other) I gather as I go, but I needed such an absurd amount of water for my FSW set that I bought them - solely because I want that set complete asap for raiding. You see, we've got our first Kara raid coming on the 28th, and all I need now is some 5-6 pieces of Shadowcloth to make the last part of the set.

As for dailies, to be honest it's 90% of what I do these days.. I go to the isle and do the dailies there, and I make a round of Oshu'gun - mana cells - attack plans -cooking/fishing.. an occasional instance (heroic for the badges), and that's about it. I'd have to spend all day on the comp to actually grind some stuffs for extra gold. So 280g a day is honestly not feasible for me.. har, absolutely not. Although maybe, if I shoved aside all my other goals and focused on earning gold for my epic flyer, I could probably get it in what, two weeks? But to be honest.. that doesn't sound fun at all. :wink:

[elsegundo]

Hmm, I tried farming that silk, but if you need to kill almost 40 spiders for 2 lousy pieces of silk, you grow tired of it soon enough. The primals (not just water, but any other) I gather as I go, but I needed such an absurd amount of water for my FSW set that I bought them - solely because I want that set complete asap for raiding. You see, we've got our first Kara raid coming on the 28th, and all I need now is some 5-6 pieces of Shadowcloth to make the last part of the set.

As for dailies, to be honest it's 90% of what I do these days.. I go to the isle and do the dailies there, and I make a round of Oshu'gun - mana cells - attack plans -cooking/fishing.. an occasional instance (heroic for the badges), and that's about it. I'd have to spend all day on the comp to actually grind some stuffs for extra gold. So 280g a day is honestly not feasible for me.. har, absolutely not. Although maybe, if I shoved aside all my other goals and focused on earning gold for my epic flyer, I could probably get it in what, two weeks? But to be honest.. that doesn't sound fun at all. :wink:
lol no not fun at all.. unless you're drawn by that kinda thing. i know i would go through boring crap just to acheive something like... honor marks. haha. but we're talking money here.
as for spider silk, i've found the drop rate to be a bit better than 5%. more like 10-15%. so after 40 spiders, i would have about 5 silks. going up and down the area outside of allerian stronghold to where terokkarantula lives, i can get about 5-10 silks running back and forth. admittedly, i do this to sell imbued netherweave bags, and not to farm the mats for my outfit. but hey, running back and forth once in that area will probably give you enough silk to make your set. savings of about 5-10 gold each spider silk. but i know... that's small compared to your waters. haha.

but marlous, you do what's fun for you right? so do that and be happy with it. i'll get to the point where i'll have to buy my primals soon. i dont think i want to farm them, as doing dailies will just give me enough money to buy them over time, and eventually, after cooldowns and such, i'll have my set too. good luck with your kara run!

[TPMdm]

The spiders in Black Morass drop the silk in farmable regularity and no competition and they're not elite :)