375 Alchemy, what next?

[teacake]

I've read that you can specialize in transmuting or other things once you are maxed out on the Alchemy. Where do you do this? I have been to the Alchemy trainer in Shat and nada.

[Marlous]

Each specialisation requires you to do a quest. You'll need a crapload of expensive items, so you'd best search on the Wowwiki for a list of items. On that same page, you'll find that:

for the Potion mastery, go to Lauranna Thar'well in Cenarion Refuge, Zangamarsh.
for the Elixir Mastery, go to Lorokeem in Shattrath City, Terokkar Forest.
for the Transmute Mastery, go to Zarevhi in Stormspire, Netherstorm.

Oh, and in order to do the Transmute Mastery, you should first speak with the alchemist trainer in Honor Hold/Thrallmar.

[teacake]

Do you have to be lvl 70? My mage is 68.

Also, can I be bothered? I know you can't answer that, LOL. I just feel with Alchemy that after picking thousands of herbs and making endless items the only one that justifies the use of much more valuable materials is Mad Alchemist Potion. I just sell all my herbs now because the top level elixirs and potions sell for a fraction of the mats. Many of them don't even sell.

I do transmute a primal earth to a primal life once a day, that's a profit.

Thanks for the info, I will look stuff up now :)

[elsegundo]

min is 68, with 325 skill.

and i'd make elixirs, potions and transmutes anyway just for the discoveries. but that's just me.

[Gorny]

If you choose to go the route of Potion Master you will need to be 70 (Unless you are a Druid) as it requires a trip into BOT.

[corga]

i reccomend you go elixr, a 5 proc on a flask is cause for celebration

[teacake]

Does anyone have a link which tells you what you can make with each choice? Haven't found that on Wowwiki but maybe I'm just dense.

I have had 2 discoveries with transmuting. Never ever had a discovery with anything else.

[corga]

you can make everything, its just that with a certain spec, you have a chance to make more than 1 of a certain item. like if you are potion you can make more that one potion or elixer more than 1 elixer (for the ingrediants of 1). Transmutes are good when you get that 5 proc on a primal might, but it has a CD so I dont reccomend it. Elixer procs can be a good money maker too and there ia no CD so that 5 proc on the flask of relentless assult makes you 200g and you can keep making them to try to get procs. potion spec is a reletively low money maker (It can make money but because potions are worth less, that 5 proc is worth little maybe a max of 50 gold and potions are not on a cooldown and sell faster than elixers. There is really no bad choice exept NOT taking a spec. Also consider the mats to spec. the mats for transmute spec is expensive :o

[teacake]

Thanks for all your answers. I did a bunch of research, read some other treads and checked out the AH prices for mats and finished products. Made my decision and now have the Transmutation quest. My reasons for choosing Transmutation are not "good" reasons:

1. I am totally utterly unbearably sick of the sight of herbs. Carrying around gazillions of them, having to fly to other zones to get ones I'm missing for a particular elixir.. can't stand another day of it. I've been selling everything but Ragveil for quite some time now and I don't want to go back to having to think about them.

2. Currently at 375 with no flask or potion discoveries there is nothing I can make on my server that sells for more than the mats. The loss is usually substantial. I cannot stand making these things just to hawk them at a loss. Hoping for a proc of a desirable discovery flask just doesn't make up for this.

3. I like Primals, they are cool.

Transmuting my first Primal Might today for the quest.

[Shellar]

If you choose to go the route of Potion Master you will need to be 70 (Unless you are a Druid) as it requires a trip into BOT.
Not anymore - remember, Netherstorm summoning restrictions have been lifted in a recent patch. ;)

Mind, levelling to 70 is still a good idea, since the best Alchemical items require that level (and a boatload of SSO/Shatar rep).

[Marlous]

Not anymore - remember, Netherstorm summoning restrictions have been lifted in a recent patch. ;)

I thought that didn't count for the TK instances, because of the whole 'you need a flying mount' issue..

[Lab Monkey]

5-for-1 proccing Primal Mights is nice. If you're sick of herbs you might as well ditch Herbalism and level another profession and just stick to transmuting. Seems like a waste though. I rather enjoy gathering, especially now that I have my epic flyer.

[teacake]

No, too much money in them to ditch it. Stack of 20 terocone, 40g. I just want to gather and sell and not think about 'em.

[Lab Monkey]

What are elixirs selling for on your server that you can't make more gold that way? Sure there are times when people flood the AH but I can usually turn 20 terocone and 20 felweed (60g value) into 20-25 (with Elixir procs) Elixir of Draenic Wisdom (80-100g). Even with cost of bottles, AH cut and no procs there's still more profit to be made there...unless you're getting great prices for Felweed? You're also giving yourself a chance to discover a new recipe.

I usually fetch the best prices Thursday-Saturday when most people are raiding and supplies dry up. If you're willing to hold off when there's too many cheap pots on the market (or buy them up yourself) you can make a profit turning those herbs into pots. At least on my server. Obviously I don't know how they sell on yours.

[teacake]

Labmonkey I will have another look at that. I know I have in the past tried to sell Draenic Wisdom, listing it lower than the others and it has not sold. I have also tried to sell Elixir of Mastery only have them return unsold over and over again. At the time I was listing that one for 5 gold. It takes 3X terocone and 1X felweed. Terocone was selling for 40g a stack and felweed for 13g a stack. So as you can see even at that price it was a loss. A similar thing happened with Adept's Elixir which did not sell either. Ended up using those. I have not tried selling them on a specific night however.

[Lab Monkey]

My best sellers are Elixir of Major Agility, Draenic Wisdom, Healing Power, Fortitude, Strength (when I have the Mt Silversage) & Adept's along with Super Mana Pots (timing is most important for these ones). Mostly just the 2 herb recipes. Mastery is waaay to pricey to make, you're right on that one.

[Maoileoin]

I thought that didn't count for the TK instances, because of the whole 'you need a flying mount' issue..

Not the case anymore. I've run the TK 5 mans numerous times having to summon our priest into the instance because she hadn't gotten her flying mount yet.