View Full Version : Can Blizzard handle muti MMOs competing against each other?
Wartro
28-06-2008, 03:01 AM
If rumors of a new MMO were to be true-
Then how do you believe Blizzard will handle the the competition between WoW and the New MMO?
Do you believe WoW would come to a end?
Or will the New MMO just fit the weaknesses of WoW? Something like a PvP oriented MMO?
clevins
28-06-2008, 03:16 AM
/yawn... yes WoW will die. No, really. NO, REALLY!
or not.
Kalos
28-06-2008, 03:29 AM
Without knowing anything about the supposed successor MMORPG, I'd rather not guess. If it happened to be a My Little Pony MMO, I wouldn't hold my breath of it knocking out WoW even if it is from Blizzard :grin:
Aerath
28-06-2008, 12:17 PM
What better way to have all the addicts leave WoW than have them go to your MMO instead of some other ?
grellboy
28-06-2008, 01:33 PM
YES unless blizz is real careful. cus they'll be focusing all their time and energy on d3 so wow will die of glitches. iv'e talked about this on my "is anyone else disapointed thread.
mmorpg man
28-06-2008, 02:14 PM
glitches won't suddenly magically appear all over wow just because blizzard shifts a few resources around.
jschild
28-06-2008, 02:27 PM
Well, since Blizz does NOT have multiple MMO's, why is this even an issue?
Diablo 3 is not an MMO, that much is obvious. However, I bet it will have expanded MP options.
AshMat
28-06-2008, 02:29 PM
Blizzard have plenty of experience now and know how to handle glitches. Plus it's like Aerath said, it;'s still Blizzard's, i don't think they could care which they go to, either way blizzard are making money.
MrBCorp
28-06-2008, 02:47 PM
If rumors of a new MMO were to be true-
Then how do you believe Blizzard will handle the the competition between WoW and the New MMO?
Do you believe WoW would come to a end?
Or will the New MMO just fit the weaknesses of WoW? Something like a PvP oriented MMO?
In these situations I like to look for similar examples. In this case we can look to TV where certain shows have expanded into new spin-off shows. Star Trek, Buffy/Angel, Ally McBeal/The Practice, etc, etc, you can clearly see a noticeable drop in quality of both shows (or more if that was the case). Not initially, as the energy behind them ensured at the least success at the start, but after a while the effect of juggling more than one thing (more so when they were too closely related or shared too many of the same resources) definitely had a negative impact.
So yeah, I can see it becoming a problem, potentially.
But that's pure speculation. :smiley:
mmorpg man
28-06-2008, 02:52 PM
it won't be a problem as long as blizzard has the funds to employ all their staff and develope the games. with 11million subscribers I doubt they will find funding a problem.
The "new" MMO is Diablo 3 and it is not a MMO at all. Currently 2 classes are presented, both as male and female and they team up as a party of max 4.
So it looks like D2 but incredibly more awesome and thus it is a relaxing complimentation of WoW, but no competition in my book....
WatcherZero
28-06-2008, 07:47 PM
I think I heard them mention during the gameplay video 5 or 6 group. perhaps theyve not set a level yet.
clevins
28-06-2008, 08:03 PM
DIABLO 3 IS NOT AN MMO.
Sorry for the caps, but while it looks like it's multiplayer it's in the single digits. It's not an MMO, so we don't have to worry about this yet. And even if we did... how many poeple are currently bored with WoW? Wouldn't it be nice to have another good MMO to go play that's at a different stage of its evolution?
Wartro
28-06-2008, 08:26 PM
So the whole "Project Hydra MMO!!!"
Was a load of Bull Crap?
TPMdm
28-06-2008, 08:36 PM
In these situations I like to look for similar examples. In this case we can look to TV where certain shows have expanded into new spin-off shows. Star Trek, Buffy/Angel, Ally McBeal/The Practice, etc, etc, you can clearly see a noticeable drop in quality of both shows (or more if that was the case). Not initially, as the energy behind them ensured at the least success at the start, but after a while the effect of juggling more than one thing (more so when they were too closely related or shared too many of the same resources) definitely had a negative impact.
So yeah, I can see it becoming a problem, potentially.
But that's pure speculation. :smiley:
Movie studios regularly develop and release multiple movies at the same time often filling different niches and satisfying different audiences. Did the people who go see Hulk worry that Universal also released "I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry"?
Don't forget that in terms of revenue Blizzard has an Iron Man caliber Blockbuster EVERY MONTH with WoW. Movie Studios are lucky to get one or two a year. Video games now generally have bigger budgets and generate more revenue for their respective companies than movies and television do (talking about A-list titles here, My Little Pony MMO certainly wouldn't).
So the whole "Project Hydra MMO!!!"
Was a load of Bull Crap?
Who said D3 is project Hydra? and who said project Hydra was an MMO?
clevins
28-06-2008, 09:02 PM
They've had (and still have) postings for positions working on a next gen MMO (see http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/?rhtml=y). Given that D3 can't be described as an MMO, that implies they have one in the works presuming that description isn't just a red herring.
What will it be? Who knows.... It could be based on one of the current franchises that doesn't have an MMO (Diablo or Starcraft). It could be a revamp of WoW (though they get a lot of people who play on machines that are OK for current WoW but would break on a more demanding game). It could be something new and not based on any of the current Blizzard franchises.
WatcherZero
28-06-2008, 09:04 PM
the hydra an mmo came from a blizzard job advert placed on their website last year for programmers for a "new next generation mmo" The hydra came from an overheard conversation between two blizzard employees at the last blizzcon.
TPMdm
28-06-2008, 10:08 PM
the hydra an mmo came from a blizzard job advert placed on their website last year for programmers for a "new next generation mmo" The hydra came from an overheard conversation between two blizzard employees at the last blizzcon.
Yeah, I know about that. I was just wondering if there was an actual connection anywhere between hydra and Blizzard's MMO project. Wartro made the leap that D3 = hydra = MMO, I was wondering where that leap came from. Since clearly D3 is not an MMO then part of that equation is wrong.
Given that we know, based on current info, that D3 is not an MMO that leaves us with 4 conclusions
1. D3 is Hydra and neither are an MMO
2. D3 is not Hydra and hydra is an MMO
3. D3 is not hydra and hydra is not an MMO
4. Blizzard is full of "bullcrap" because D3 is hydra and hydra is an MMO <----wartro's
Wartro
28-06-2008, 10:34 PM
Yeah, I know about that. I was just wondering if there was an actual connection anywhere between hydra and Blizzard's MMO project. Wartro made the leap that D3 = hydra = MMO, I was wondering where that leap came from. Since clearly D3 is not an MMO then part of that equation is wrong.
Given that we know, based on current info, that D3 is not an MMO that leaves us with 4 conclusions
1. D3 is Hydra and neither are an MMO
2. D3 is not Hydra and hydra is an MMO
3. D3 is not hydra and hydra is not an MMO
4. Blizzard is full of "bullcrap" because D3 is hydra and hydra is an MMO <----wartro's
You are putting words in my mouth. nowhere did I say D3 was a MMO
WatcherZero
28-06-2008, 11:18 PM
Warto was just assuming that the announced game would be an MMO before the WWI, which it didnt turn out to be.
Kalos
29-06-2008, 01:11 AM
So the whole "Project Hydra MMO!!!"
Was a load of Bull Crap?
I never heard anything for certain saying that Project Hydra was an <insert type here>. We only overheard the project name, Hydra, that's it. It could have been the WOTLK expansion for all we know. It could even be the team responsible for new raid instances being developed for the big content patches WoW recieve. All we know is that Hydra is the internal development name Blizzard use for something, and that something has no qualifiers or other information pinning it to a genre like MMOs or RTSs or RPGs.
Anyone who said Project Hydra was "Certainly an MMO" was either putting thier job on the line or speaking from their rear, because nothing publically released has ever shed light on what that project was, only that it was an project Blizzard was working on.
illcutyafoo
29-06-2008, 02:09 AM
Well he could be talking about the new Warhammer MMO, which looks amazing i might say. From what i've seen blizz is gonn have some major competition when that beast is released.
Pimmeh
29-06-2008, 12:14 PM
Well he could be talking about the new Warhammer MMO, which looks amazing i might say. From what i've seen blizz is gonn have some major competition when that beast is released.
I think WAR will compete with World of Warcraft, but so does LOTRO and so does AOC (Although LOTRO not that much).
WoW is atm the only real option to play, untill a better MMO comes out. Im putting my money on WAR, but thats my choice.
And yes, D3 is NOT an MMO, unless they point at Battle.net, which is quite massive, is it not?
And maybe they raised the player in a server cap to 18, which would be cool :P But not really that massive...unless you count all the Witch Docter slaves and other possible pets and stuff.
TPMdm
29-06-2008, 08:21 PM
Well he could be talking about the new Warhammer MMO, which looks amazing i might say. From what i've seen blizz is gonn have some major competition when that beast is released.
One thing I can say for sure it that Hydra is not Warhammer, even wartro would admit that, I think :wink:
clevins
29-06-2008, 08:30 PM
Warhammer? /yawn. Ship it and we'll talk. Heck public beta even.
Wartro
30-06-2008, 09:08 AM
it won't be a problem as long as blizzard has the funds to employ all their staff and develope the games. with 11million subscribers I doubt they will find funding a problem.
But still,
If it turns out to be as good as WoW, but WoW still have some good points at the same time, (maybe like WoW being the PvE MMO and the New MMO being a PvP MMO or something)
then 50% of people may go between one another.
Serrat
30-06-2008, 11:16 AM
i really think its going to depend on what type of MMO bliz release next, and also when.
while im sure we would all like WoW to keep on trucking forever, however its unlikely.
Bliz will release another mmo at somepoint and after a number of years its bound to be inevitable that wow will start to wind down, though im sure it will still be going for a good number of years yet.
wether wow players leave to go to the unnamed mmo will boil down to what type of game they release.
if they decide to go for a space ship controling type game(eve online) then you proberbly wouldnt see that big of a dent in wow because most wow players are playing wow because they like the fantasy setting.
if they were to release another fantasy game(world of diablo anyone? :tongue: ) then ya you would see wow player base shift somewhat.
having said that ill proberbly either ditch wow or vastly reduce my playing time once diablo 3 hits the shelves
Wintrow
30-06-2008, 12:14 PM
I think wow's development quality itself will not fluctuate should Blizzard release a second MMO. They have separate development teams doing WoW apart from the other games. This is the whole point of posting job offerings... So they wouldn't have to nibble on their other teams.
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