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traubster
05-07-2008, 11:01 AM
Hey all! A few weeks ago I came across a website where the website would look up your characters armory and it would tell you which raids you are ready for and by how much, as well as tell you what you can improve on gear/enchant/gem wise.

Unfortunately, I recently got a new computer and no longer have the website on my bookmarks, and can't seem to find it again. Does anyone have the link?

Aerath
05-07-2008, 11:19 AM
http://be.imba.hu/

There ya go.

//edit: Use it as a guideline please, not as rule - I don't quite agree with it 100% on all choices.

Morollan
08-07-2008, 03:10 PM
http://be.imba.hu/

There ya go.

//edit: Use it as a guideline please, not as rule - I don't quite agree with it 100% on all choices.

Indeed. It's not keen on PVP gear for feral druids for example. Despite them being amongst the top choices available to us.

Twoflower
08-07-2008, 03:25 PM
if you dont know it, you are not ready for it.

mesonm
08-07-2008, 03:56 PM
if you dont know it, you are not ready for it.

My guideline is somewhat different...."Try it"....(the raid or instance, I mean...)

zodiac66
08-07-2008, 09:16 PM
What does the PVE score mean? I was looking on the FAQ and couldn't find it.

Of course, I am exhausted so I may have missed it.

elsegundo
08-07-2008, 09:21 PM
You are not prepared.

-some villian.

Cerberus
09-07-2008, 05:49 AM
WARNING! this character may be improved!

I'd take some of those with a grain of salt. I lack 2 hitrating to get capped and got one, hehe. The PvE gear score is probably based on a ranking of items or possibly simply itemlevel. Higher level gear=higher score.

Sound advice from Twoflower as well imo.

Trakamoocow
09-07-2008, 08:20 AM
This may have been what a mate ran my tanks gear through. Nubdrood (the only level 70 druid, easy to find on armory) with mostly badge gear and pvp gear, is apparently close to sunwell level geared.

But someone totally said in this thread that since I dont know em I couldn't possibly do them (and it does get hard, I mean 'dont stand in this, when this happens, move left, its all so hard to remember :S). PLUS Wowwiki is hard to look up encounters for a play by play exactly how to do it checklisty thing too. I mean sure, I did every pre bc raid in existence, but since someone said it, I can't do bt or sunwell :(.

Not sure im being sarcastic enough, please let me know tia.

P.S. It's purely down to the person. None of the encounters, now, with umpteen guides on exactly how the scripted, unchanging encounters go are actually HARD to do. It simply requires situational awareness, something a lot lack but (generally) tanks dont.

P.P.S Tanking heroics is more challenging (on a personal skill level basis) than any 25 man (yes i've done a few). You lock down ONE target, hit its face, move on (with few exceptions). Lots of things to stand in, not stand in, etc.

The difficulty is the '25 man' aspect. Theres always a handful of people ****ting up your raid.

Twoflower
09-07-2008, 01:02 PM
to precisise :

i didnt mean that you are not ready for the instance if you dont know the instance. that way, noone would ever go to new instances.

i meant that you are not ready for a instance if you feel insecure and have to ask some other person about your char, gear etc.


the webpage is quite funny, my priest is in kara and badge reward gear and the webpage says that the only place he could get improvement on his gear would be sunwell :) i wonder if a sunwell guild will take him ^^ But it is a good page for a general guideline. just dont take it for granted.

Cattleya
10-07-2008, 08:50 PM
the webpage is quite funny, my priest is in kara and badge reward gear and the webpage says that the only place he could get improvement on his gear would be sunwell :) i wonder if a sunwell guild will take him ^^ But it is a good page for a general guideline. just dont take it for granted.

Actually, the new badge gear is pretty darn OP, especially for priests. In full badge gear, you would need to be deep in Hyjal or BT to see upgrades for the most part.


What's really fun it is to use it when you are in PvP gear and spec. Boy is it fun watching it try to parse that for PvE. (In all fairness, it does give the "probably caught in PvP gear" warning.)

Apparently, I'm all ready for early BT and Hyjal as a disc priest in full PvP gear. That should save me a ton of money respecing! :grin:

I think what is funniest is that after it complains about the spell penetration and resilience enchant, it's next complaint is a lack of spell hit on my gear. Go go smite!

Aerath
10-07-2008, 10:31 PM
That's one of the problems I have with it for Enhancement Shamans.

It's whining about lack of hit, when with a proper spec you are automatically hit-capped for specials and it's far less interesting after that.

Beruen
11-07-2008, 12:04 AM
It's definitely something that you need to take with a grain of salt. It says that one of our kara raiders isn't even ready for heroics. Yeah, her gear is horrible, but she still gets out enough DPS to keep up with the characters that are in appropriate gear (but not even close to the overgeared ones).

And yes, it tells me my priest should be capable of healing Sunwell too, and I don't even have any Kara gear other than Prince's healing weapon (though I do have a good bit of badge gear). When I've filled in for missing healers in other guilds T5 runs, I've felt like I was pulling my own weight other than inexperience with the instance, but I'm not sure that would continue much farther.

I'm at about 2100 healing and 300-350 MP5 while casting raid buffed, and since I was at almost those numbers when starting Kara, it just doesn't sound right that those are good numbers for SWP.

buckscrib
11-07-2008, 06:56 AM
http://be.imba.hu/

There ya go.

//edit: Use it as a guideline please, not as rule - I don't quite agree with it 100% on all choices.

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clevins
11-07-2008, 07:42 AM
It's definitely something that you need to take with a grain of salt. It says that one of our kara raiders isn't even ready for heroics. Yeah, her gear is horrible, but she still gets out enough DPS to keep up with the characters that are in appropriate gear (but not even close to the overgeared ones).

And yes, it tells me my priest should be capable of healing Sunwell too, and I don't even have any Kara gear other than Prince's healing weapon (though I do have a good bit of badge gear). When I've filled in for missing healers in other guilds T5 runs, I've felt like I was pulling my own weight other than inexperience with the instance, but I'm not sure that would continue much farther.

I'm at about 2100 healing and 300-350 MP5 while casting raid buffed, and since I was at almost those numbers when starting Kara, it just doesn't sound right that those are good numbers for SWP.

hehe... to be fair 2100 +heal is massively overgeared for kara.

Wintrow
11-07-2008, 11:47 AM
In respect of twoflower's post i'd like to add the following quote from a certain cyberpunk movie:

Oracle: Do you know what that means?
[points to a banner]
Oracle: It means know thy self. I wanna tell you a little secret, being the one is just like being in love. No one needs to tell you you are in love, you just know it, through and through. Balls to bone.

Guess it's the same with knowing if you are ready for a certain instance :grin:?

Twoflower
11-07-2008, 02:21 PM
heh that s what i wanted to say wintrow :) nice quote :)

Beruen
11-07-2008, 07:06 PM
hehe... to be fair 2100 +heal is massively overgeared for kara.

Oh, agreed, it's just that it's not that much higher than I was at when I started Kara. From most of the discussions I've seen here, I was geared to start Gruuls before I stepped foot into Kara. In fact, Gruul's was my first outlands raid. I've been brought in to heal for TK a few times by friends when their guild run was short a healer, and I've been complimented there. so I know and trust that I'm ready for it if my own guild ever gets there.

It just comes down to the psycology of "my gear is a little better than it was when i started Kara, so I feel confident going after anything a little harder than Kara." I felt rather intimidated by the instance the first time I went into TK, and I'll definitely feel intimidated the first time I go into one of the T6 instances. SWP, a raid instance that even the first-kill people say is hard enough? I might remember to breath.

clevins
11-07-2008, 08:07 PM
hehe... yeah from the priest boards I frequent people seem tto say you want 2400+ and 600Mp5... but I'lll almost certainly never see SwP so I'm not worried.

det
11-07-2008, 10:29 PM
I checked the class mechanics threads on "Elitist Jerks" to see how my character(s) compare. Especially in the priest guides there is a clear progression / requirement section.

Any website will put emphasis on certain stats. "Max dps" kept suggesting some dps upgrades, the moment I equipped them, my hit dropped and it kept suggesting the pants that I just exchanged, Catch 22 ^^.

"Warlock den" rates gear favoring +hit. Once you are hit capped, you need to think. The best listed gear is not the best for you anymore.

A site that tells me my character needs improvement because I lack 2 hit? That is the case of my warlock. It is a matter of exchanging 1 piece of armor..and suddenly I lose 50 critrating and go 20 over the hitcap. I rather lose the 2 hit in this case...

EDIT: Tested "be imba.hu" once with missing 2 hit and being over the hitcap by 20. "This character may be improved" in both cases^^. Ready for sunwell....I guess everybody ccan be improved always...

OH wait..just checked the guild leader of Nihilum: "This character is in good shape". So you need to drop Kil'Jaeden to get the seal of approval :grin:

Pinkyboo
27-07-2008, 11:34 PM
There's also a new similar site - www.wow-heroes.com (http://www.wow-heroes.com)