best for duels

[xromania™]

plz dont vote if u dont know all stuff about duels or classes, so we can have a relevant poll

i asked before but asnwers differ, anyway around rogues, warriors or warlocks. But druids or mages? im interested especially about these if are good or at least if can hold...

[det]

plz don't post poll if you don't know all stuff about duels or classes, so we don't have to go through this topic for the umpfteenth time ^^

You asked before but asnwers differ - and you know why..because that is just that. There is no "best class"...it is rock - paper - scissors.

And if somebody tells you that a warlock is the best duelling class and you get you little warlock to lv 19..a lv 19 twink rogue will beat you. And if you get your warlock to lv 70 in shiny greens, a lv 70 mage in rares will kill you. And if you get your warlock all geared up in S1 epcs, a warrior in S4 epics will beat you. And when you finally have geared your warlock in the best available gear, another warlock will beat you because he is the better player...

[xromania™]

some classes, like mages, have 6 anti classes and others only two. There should be a class with some advantages wich can win more duels than any other, speaking about balanced duels no noob vs gosu

[Twoflower]

there is no best class. use the search feature, this question has been answered at least 100 times in the last 2 years.

[mmorpg man]

a winning dualist is 1 with good gear, a good talent build and is a good player. any class can win a dual

[det]

Like I said :grin: but nobody ever believes me....

[bubkusjones]

With equal gear and skill and luck, a rogue should have an easier time of beating other classes, in my experience (I've had more trouble with rogues than most other classes, though I don't PVP much, I'm still only in 4/5 S1).

[mmorpg man]

rogue + perception/paranoia/track hidden = dead rogue (unless the rogue is all subtlety)

[xromania™]

even if i dont agree (see my second reply) i like what u all say, because no need then to leave my work on my lvl 26 mage to start other char better for 1v1. I wont pvp i think, but want to be rdy for that

i have a question, i was killed at entrance in SW and i was not in pvp mode and im in a normal server. Looking at combat log it say "megaroga" strike bla bla me for xx damage. I used bufs to some guys, prolly one was in pvp mode? prolly this is the only explanation. When i died nobody was around, so a cloacking rogue prolly - sry my english
Looking in WHO this guy wasnt online. Or alliance cant see hordes guys online?
Or a blizzard programmer killed me lol?

[mmorpg man]

even if you're not in PvP mode, if you go near the other faction's guards they will attack you. plain and simple. as to the player that killed you it would be either a druid or a rogue. but in order for them to kill you they would go out of stealth. if you attack anything in stealth it takes you out of it. were you afk when this happened?

[det]

Also entering opposing major cities enables you pvp on any server

[xromania™]

im a human, sw is opposite for me? i dont think i was in pvp mode and i was not afk, i just died with nobody around. Prolly is a bug, i remember in starcraft tanks exploding with no reasons when stuck

[det]

Ah...sorry for missunderstanding..then only buffing a pvp enabled person could enable your pvp....

[xromania™]

to day i saw in Coldshire 2 guys lvl ?? (why we dont see lvl for horde?), one using a modern gun, some Uzzy or Berreta lol (?) killing guards and sending in town a pet like a wolf lvl 5 (there are many wolf around) and a player atacked it and he was killed lol. To bad i dont used the skill to froze them but i think guards are weak and cant kill players anyway, right?

So what is with these atacks, i realised now there are some raids and random battles in random towns. And if u kill in these fights u earn some, at least a stats, or the control of the town?

Btw im human, so alliance, and if i make a new character in same realm if is too alliance i can transfer equipament and gold to it? But if is horde i cant?

If i want to make other character u recomand me to make in same realm (cuz already have gold etc) or in other realm, for divertisment? And wich other or there is same fun in all realms? i think i dont want pvp realms

[mmorpg man]

if a person of the other faction has their PvP on then their level acts like a monsters so ?? means its a much higher level than you. the horde character you saw killing the guards is a hunter and the wolf you saw would have been his pet, pets are generally the same level as their owner which is why the other player couldn't kill it. guards are not weak but I suspect the horde player was lvl 70 and the guards are level 65 so the horde player can easily beat them. as to the reason for the attacks, its fun to go into an enemy town and kill people in it. thats it really

you can only send items and gold to characters of the same faction as you. generally if you like a realm you're in then make all your characters on that realm.

[Your Average WoW Player]

I voted for all of them. Reason? All of them can destroy any other class. In 1v1 a lot of it comes down to player skill, and not class. Sure, Rogues can rip players apart in one on one, but more of then not, the reason being is the player knows how to use the class, and now how to stun-lock their opponent and just rip them apart.

I've seen Paladins get their butt kicked and I've seen Paladins kick butt. It all comes down to player skill more often then not, with gear following in 2nd place.

[xromania™]

i have a little question, to no start another thread just for this
im human mage lvl 28, i see i have racial stuff like to use maces bla bla, where i train these? using databases etc i found some weapons trainers and i visited them (in vain) or stuff about racial things but i dont get it. Really i want to use a mace or sword, probably is good if u run out of mana

[Twoflower]

you dont need to learn racial abilities. if you open your skill book ( p ) you will see that you allready know them.

the different weapons can be trained by the weapon trainers. beware that different trainers teach you different weapons. you can ask them what they train and where you have to go to train the other weapons.

and you realy dont want to hit anything in melee combat if you are a mage. manage your mana :)

[Valas Azuviir]

This (http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/classes/mage/index.html) will tell you what weapons a Mage may learn how to use. So as a human only the racial bonus to swords is relevant, considering Mages can use swords, while the bonus to maces is useless, as Mages can't use those.

However, as Twoflower pointed out, you really shouldn't be hitting things in melee combat as a mage anyway.

[xromania™]

i found a trainer Woo ping next to AH and i can use swords and daggers now. I think look cool at least to have a sword. How i can make a sword or even a staff or wand to glow? i speak with a enchanter and how much cost?

[mmorpg man]

there are certain enchants which cause weapons to glow. these are usually expensive (500g+) but you shouldn't enchant anything untill lvl 70 unless you become a twink.

[det]

Fiery looks nice and is kinda cheap too

[WatcherZero]

theirs the fiery enchant you get from doing a quest in badlands :)

[Janfader]

Leveling many alts to 70 both on Alliance and Horde with PvP experience on some classes only, I would agree with Det - all classes at equal/max gear is all player experience/talent.

I perfer to try and own with my Lock :-) However my undead Rogue is the extreme aggitator and often find toons crying on the ground. I've never felt so good about an "insta kill" than with my Rogue.

[elsegundo]

even if i dont agree (see my second reply) i like what u all say, because no need then to leave my work on my lvl 26 mage to start other char better for 1v1. I wont pvp i think, but want to be rdy for that

i have a question, i was killed at entrance in SW and i was not in pvp mode and im in a normal server. Looking at combat log it say "megaroga" strike bla bla me for xx damage. I used bufs to some guys, prolly one was in pvp mode? prolly this is the only explanation. When i died nobody was around, so a cloacking rogue prolly - sry my english
Looking in WHO this guy wasnt online. Or alliance cant see hordes guys online?
Or a blizzard programmer killed me lol?save yourself the trouble... just roll in a pvp server.

[drewid]

I do alot of PVP and Bgs, my holy pally has 12K kills, all in S1 pvp gear/ kara lvl pve, and it is really hard one on one to kill any class. I know player skill is the defining ingredient if all else is equal when the duelers are the same class.

How ever a lock or rogue (stunlock $&%$&) i cant see any holy pally beating them if the gear is of the same lvl and the player skills are equivalent.
You run around rinsing dots healing bubbling when fighting a lock, and stand there stunned once the rogue has u, watching your HP disappear. Hunters, can be close but with the pet mauling u, long cooldowns on most pally skills means you generally only get to use them all once and then its a race beteween your mana and your opponents HP, since a holy pally does terrible DPS generally the mana is first to go and you are a sitting duck.

My mage on the other hand, :grin: keep her out of meele and ill give, any one a go.

[wileycoyote]

plz dont vote if u dont know all stuff about duels or classes, so we can have a relevant poll

i asked before but asnwers differ, anyway around rogues, warriors or warlocks. But druids or mages? im interested especially about these if are good or at least if can hold...

If you are interested in dueling then you are likely interested in killing an opponent rather than outlasting them.

In this particular game,if you have a heal button then your "PvP" spec involves either heal botting for a killer class or 'outlasting' your opponent rather than 'killing' them.

That leaves warrior, rogue and warlock doesn't it?

I say warrior, near immunity to fear, making them greater than warlock, some of the best DPS in the game, (even equal to rogue) and some of the best CC in the game, AoE FEAR, AOE snare, AoE stun (if Tauren), a snare that has no diminishing returns or cooldown, 15 sec cooldown immunity to snare (intercept) wears plate, spell reflect (with shield equip macro), limitless stuns via weapon procs, group buffs,and the list goes on.

Basiclly everything a rogue wants to be plus utility and plate armor at the cost of no stealth.