Funniest BG

[MrBCorp]

So I have a look at our groups as I'm about to head off in AV, I mount off and take a look. To my surprise and horror I see that we've been grouped by class. The raid leader had, for some strange reason decided to do this, what a crazy thing to do.

Someone asks "Um, why have we been grouped according to class?" or something to that effect.

The raid leader replies, "I'm a GURL gawd."

Yes, you heard that right, it's the stereotypical girl that's come to ensure victory for the other team. But what a way to lose. I've never seen so much chaos on the alliance side before. No one knew what to do, people were qq'ing and leaving. It was an epic fail. I've never laughed so much in an AV in my life.

For some strange reason there are over 1000 games on AV and AB WSG and 700-something on EotS today.

[Twoflower]

hmm why would it mater ? you just zerg the enemy base and kill the boss, why does it matter in what group you are ?

[MrBCorp]

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I have no idea what to say to that :shocked:

[Zachariah]

Well, it's a reasonable question...Sure, in a raid, you NEED to carefully plan out groups so that buffs and talents enhance performance within each group as best they can.

But in a BG, it's just not an issue. I've never once finished a BG and had everyone shout "Thank goodness our raid leader created ideal melee and caster groups for us! Without it we'd never have had the dps to kill Van\Drek\get all those flag caps!"

Maybe in a very strictly planned premade you might worry about it...But that certainly doesn't sound like what the OP was involved in. IMO it says more about the egos (and lack of skills) on certain players in that particular team than it does about any raid leading.

[Erinne]

I'm confused as to why the raid leader tried to explain the group setup with being a girl. Are girls generally more inclined to group people by class or what? I don't get it :S

[PlayThemAll]

I've never been in a BG where each group stayed together. Even if they did, once people start dieing they get spread out all over the map.

[rudyolph]

yeah I don't get this post at all?

[MrBCorp]

ugh, ok, I'll explain a bit.

Generally on alliance side in AV someone will explain 'tactics' for us:
"1 - 5 RH, 6 - 8 Galv then towers"
They might even say "stay in towers till they cap" or something.

Yeah, not everyone follows this and you get afker's, but generally speaking, that's how it goes (and someone always caps the SFGY. Not to mention "DO NOT CAP FWGY UNTIL RH CAPS!!!"

By colour-coding everyone by class, which was apparently done 'for fun' or for looks, without realising why no one usually touches the groups. Basically it short-circuited alliance tactics, everyone became unsure of things (not to mention half of us were laughing hysterically). After 'complaining' about the groups, the reason given was that "a girl did it". Like the little kid that saw a butterfly and chased it everywhere and eventually off a cliff.

As to why we lost quick, I think it probably was because many people started leaving (after b*tching) which put us at a huge disadvantage. Not to mention all those who weren't actually playing, but typing in chat (there was much qq'ing).

My guess is that alliance actually don't know what to do unless someone tells them. The best AV's I've had were where everyone did what they were told. Groups 1-5 stayed together and groups 6-8 stuck together. By that I mean, not necessarily to their particular groups, but to the group as a whole.

[drewid]

LOL, i get it, makes perfect sense. Girls tend to like things pretty and organised, so would make sense to have all the mages in one nice little group:tongue:

And yes if you actually do stuff by groups then this would cause chaos.
My GM is a girl and you should see our bank vault, It is color coded!!!!
thats right doesnt matter what the item is if its purple it goes with all the other purple things on that lvl tab. I must admit it looks kinda cool having the colors of the rainbow across the tab.:rolleyes:

My guess is that alliance actually don't know what to do unless someone tells them. The best AV's I've had were where everyone did what they were told. Groups 1-5 stayed together and groups 6-8 stuck together. By that I mean, not necessarily to their particular groups, but to the group as a whole.
From the Horde side, our organisation is as simple as "Can we have D this game?" or " Lets get a big D" then people either do it or dont, if we dont it tends to be a loss.

[semiiramiis]

So I have a look at our groups as I'm about to head off in AV, I mount off and take a look. To my surprise and horror I see that we've been grouped by class. The raid leader had, for some strange reason decided to do this, what a crazy thing to do.

Someone asks "Um, why have we been grouped according to class?" or something to that effect.

The raid leader replies, "I'm a GURL gawd."

Yes, you heard that right, it's the stereotypical girl that's come to ensure victory for the other team. But what a way to lose. I've never seen so much chaos on the alliance side before. No one knew what to do, people were qq'ing and leaving. It was an epic fail. I've never laughed so much in an AV in my life.

For some strange reason there are over 1000 games on AV and AB WSG and 700-something on EotS today.

Um. So...some unknown entity, who statistically is probably not female claims to be female to cover up a stupid, and you guys automatically believe it? Stereotypical? Eh? What? There's a stereotypical and limiting thought in here alright....not the one that was pointed out.

[MrBCorp]

Um. So...some unknown entity, who statistically is probably not female claims to be female to cover up a stupid, and you guys automatically believe it? Stereotypical? Eh? What? There's a stereotypical and limiting thought in here alright....not the one that was pointed out.

Well she SAID she was a girl.

I messaged her and asked her if she really was a girl (hey, you gotta do it :tongue:). She replied rather quickly with something about I was the one who went chasing the other girl or something or other (bad memory), then said 'mt'. Then I got "yeah, really a girl".

So she was chatting to someone (I assume was a guy) about people (women are typically more interested in people, guys with objects/things), it was probably a love story. Whatever. It sounded legit.

What are you saying, that women don't do stupid things?

[semiiramiis]

Well she SAID she was a girl.

I messaged her and asked her if she really was a girl (hey, you gotta do it :tongue:). She replied rather quickly with something about I was the one who went chasing the other girl or something or other (bad memory), then said 'mt'. Then I got "yeah, really a girl".

So she was chatting to someone (I assume was a guy) about people (women are typically more interested in people, guys with objects/things), it was probably a love story. Whatever. It sounded legit.

What are you saying, that women don't do stupid things?

We do stupid things often. I just find it very, extremely annoying that the epic fail of said battleground is basically blamed on this person possibly being female. I've been bg leader on more than one occasion, and pulled it off just fine. It's a little silly to hear so many young males wail that there aren't enough female gamers around, and then to see this makes me go...well...um...yeah.... go figure. And also, I know from experience, that most competent wow playing women do not advertise this fact. We forgive the male portion of the WoW world for giving us 14 year old male dps jocks who spam raid chat with "Link the Damage Meters! Link the Damage Meters!" while blithely ignoring Omen in the corner screaming 120% agro gain.

[drewid]

I dont think any one was having a go at the fact Girls play WOW, the OP was just documenting a funny scenario.

[MrBCorp]

We do stupid things often. I just find it very, extremely annoying that the epic fail of said battleground is basically blamed on this person possibly being female.

No. Read again:

...it's the stereotypical girl that's come to ensure victory for the other team...

I'm going to go ahead and assume you're an older woman, probably in 35-55 bracket, as typically it is this generation that has the most problems with the opposite gender (men included). It's like they don't know how to deal/interact with each other properly.

I've been bg leader on more than one occasion, and pulled it off just fine....And also, I know from experience, that most competent wow playing women do not advertise this fact...

I have no doubt I've played with and against many women without knowing it.

I don't think any one was having a go at the fact Girls play WOW, the OP was just documenting a funny scenario.

Exactly. It was also the fact that a simple change that deviated slightly from the norm completely derailed the alliance.

I doubt she'll do it again. :rolleyes::laugh::grin::wink::laughing:

[Moblong]

ok caps for emphasise, and cuz you guys need to listen

HOW MANY BG HAVE YOU PLAYED, WHERE THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC / EVEN REMOTELY STRATEGIC GROUPS? AND HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE YOU WON.

i dont think it matter. but grouping by class is just plain funny. i would laugh too.

[MrBCorp]

90% of the time someone will say "1-5 RH, 6-8 Galv & towers". The rest of the time we do this anyway. Whether we win or lose usually depends on what the Horde do.

[Amra]

I've played a fair bit of BG's now on the Horde side only.

I have never done one where it's anywhere near that organized. At most it's like "more to Galv" or "D at RH". Too funny.

This whole thread is a hoot though. :thumbsup:

I'll have to run AV with my Alli toon and see what happens.

[MrBCorp]

I've played a fair bit of BG's now on the Horde side only.

I have never done one where it's anywhere near that organized. At most it's like "more to Galv" or "D at RH". Too funny.

This whole thread is a hoot though. :thumbsup:

I'll have to run AV with my Alli toon and see what happens.

I'd be interested to know if it's just the alliance on my battlegroup (rampage) or whether all alliance is like this, and why the horde isn't organised...?

[Amra]

I'm sure it's a bit different everywhere, for each side.

[semiiramiis]

I am 39, and have been gaming in some form or another for about 20 years. The phrase "stereotypical girl gamer out to ensure a win for the other side" is quite enough to make me growl. Before you dismiss that as reactionary (or a reflection of my age) let me give you a condensed version of what it has been like to be a female gamer.

1. You are pretty much always assumed to be the "dread girlfriend gamer" until you prove otherwise. If you are unfamiliar with the term, the dread girl friend gamer is always dating another player, and has come to the game only because she honestly refuses to believe that her boyfriend and all of his friends really just mean to overdose on sugar, pizza, caffeine and varied and sundry salty snacks while making believe that they are paladins, warlocks, wizards, etc. The dread girlfriend gamer has demanded an invite to the game (and since no one would dare refuse) she has gotten it. She is lost, clueless and bored the whole time, making everyone else miserable while she vacantly stares at polyhedrons, apparently unable to count just how many sides they have. This came to full glory one lovely AggieCon when myself, my best friend, and my husband came to play in a Battletech tournament. We were all three quite competent at the game, and were looking forward to a good time. When my husband sat down, without a word, the person running the game handed him papers. When my friend and I arrived, we got nothing. We waited, until someone finally asked when we were going to get started. The person running the game then said "We have 20 people signed, and only eighteen have shown up...." Yup. That's right, he had counted the hubby, but not me and my friend. So, dubiously, he gave us papers and started the tournament. He never bothered to check any one else's computations, but for the first hour, proceeded to doggedly double check every combat computation the two of us made. (She took second out of 20. I took 3rd.)

I have also had the unmitigated joy of hearing "I'm gonna sign up for this game! See, it's being run by a GIRL! I want to see just how bad it can be." As the girl in question, running this game at a major gaming convention, I was not thrilled. I have had people groan and moan, loudly, when I arrive to play. It's gotten better, much better, but there's still a huge stereotype when it comes to women who game. If you didn't mean it in the way it came off, then I apologize. It's not age, it's simply a case of been there, done that. Raiding guilds are not bad, most of the stronger ones have a good group of female gamers, but I have heard "Oh, my God! Damaris really IS a girl!" When I'm heard on vent for the first time. And I've had several people who have difficulties either accepting the fact that I am female, or when they get that through their thick heads, saying inappropriate things to me afterwards.

[MrBCorp]

I am 39, and have been gaming in some form or another for about 20 years. The phrase "stereotypical girl gamer out to ensure a win for the other side" is quite enough to make me growl. Before you dismiss that as reactionary (or a reflection of my age) let me give you a condensed version of what it has been like to be a female gamer.

1. You are pretty much always assumed to be the "dread girlfriend gamer" until you prove otherwise. If you are unfamiliar with the term, the dread girl friend gamer is always dating another player, and has come to the game only because she honestly refuses to believe that her boyfriend and all of his friends really just mean to overdose on sugar, pizza, caffeine and varied and sundry salty snacks while making believe that they are paladins, warlocks, wizards, etc. The dread girlfriend gamer has demanded an invite to the game (and since no one would dare refuse) she has gotten it. She is lost, clueless and bored the whole time, making everyone else miserable while she vacantly stares at polyhedrons, apparently unable to count just how many sides they have. This came to full glory one lovely AggieCon when myself, my best friend, and my husband came to play in a Battletech tournament. We were all three quite competent at the game, and were looking forward to a good time. When my husband sat down, without a word, the person running the game handed him papers. When my friend and I arrived, we got nothing. We waited, until someone finally asked when we were going to get started. The person running the game then said "We have 20 people signed, and only eighteen have shown up...." Yup. That's right, he had counted the hubby, but not me and my friend. So, dubiously, he gave us papers and started the tournament. He never bothered to check any one else's computations, but for the first hour, proceeded to doggedly double check every combat computation the two of us made. (She took second out of 20. I took 3rd.)

I have also had the unmitigated joy of hearing "I'm gonna sign up for this game! See, it's being run by a GIRL! I want to see just how bad it can be." As the girl in question, running this game at a major gaming convention, I was not thrilled. I have had people groan and moan, loudly, when I arrive to play. It's gotten better, much better, but there's still a huge stereotype when it comes to women who game. If you didn't mean it in the way it came off, then I apologize. It's not age, it's simply a case of been there, done that. Raiding guilds are not bad, most of the stronger ones have a good group of female gamers, but I have heard "Oh, my God! Damaris really IS a girl!" When I'm heard on vent for the first time. And I've had several people who have difficulties either accepting the fact that I am female, or when they get that through their thick heads, saying inappropriate things to me afterwards.

Wow that's quite a long time to be gaming. I think I've only been going for 10 years myself (well, PC only, before that it was the Atari 2600 & NES).

You've quoted me as saying "stereotypical girl gamer out to ensure a win for the other side" when what I said was "it's the stereotypical girl that's come to ensure victory for the other team". Not the typical girl GAMER but the stereotypical girl, as in, what everyone expects a girl to do/be like.

There is a good book I recommend people read called "Why Men Don't Listen and Women Can't Read Maps" by Barbara & Allan Pease. A very entertaining and informative read.

My guess is that she had never done any AV's until this point.

I can't imagine what it's like to be a girl gamer, but if it's anything like pretending to be one, then HIKES!