Strange tactic?

[WarlockedNLoaded]

Hi, I am not sure if this is already posted somewhere, if so link to it so I may read it. If not, I have wondered something.

I never did a lot of BGs while lvling to 70. Now that I am 70 I have really started getting into them.

The question I have regards something that has really been frustrating to me as I do not really know the reason why it is done and I do not dare ask in BG chat or be flamed for being a noob.

I am on The Scryers Server which is the Retaliation battlegroup.

I never notice the horde doing this and they tend to win most BGs in our battlegroup it seems.

So with them winning a lot I wonder what is it we as alliance seem to be doing wrong and one thing I have noticed the alliance do A LOT in Warsong Gulch is... Whenever someone gets the flag, and actually makes it back to the base, why do they never cap it even when the base is clear?

They hang on to the flag for some reason I do not know, stand inches from the flag spot and never cap it???

Eventually a stealthed rogue or cat form druid usually sap and spank and we lose the flag. I just really do not understand this. I am sure there is some tactic they may be trying to implement but I do not know what it is.

I understand things like EotS where we hang on to the flag until we get more back at the flag spawn point so we may get the flag again, but in WG that doesn't apply.

Any thoughts?

Thanks for hearing this BG noob out.

[dgrampa]

You can't cap while the other team holds your flag.

[Mistro]

Sometimes if the other side doesn't have the flag, they'll keep it and attempt to farm honor.

[noesaintclair]

I a complete noob to this site.
could you please teach me how to post ?

[WarlockedNLoaded]

You can't cap while the other team holds your flag.

Ah, see this I had no idea.
Thank you.

[WarlockedNLoaded]

Sometimes if the other side doesn't have the flag, they'll keep it and attempt to farm honor.

That I understand people doing, but more honor comes from winning right?
We end up losing, not just WG but alot of BG's because people in the BG chat talk about killing as many people as they can. HK's give way less honor than the bonus honor at the end by winning.

Not to mention if it's the daily and you get the bonus honor from turning that in.

Well, thank you to everyone who answered my question.
Too many trolls and flamers to ask on the Blizzard WoW forums.

[MrBCorp]

It seems many people on the alliance side are idiots. They like killing things. One guy stopped in AV to kill a tiger, when we were in the middle of rushing.

Yeah, you do get more honor from winning. If only someone told these nubs that...

[Mistro]

Indeed, farming honor is rather pointless like that, especially in my bracket (20-29). It usually turns out badly. The constant lack of team work Alliance side frustrates me, but I've not changed from Dwarf to Tauren just yet. Its like the Alliance is firing a shotgun at something 2,000 feet away, while the Horde is using a sniper rifle.

[MrBCorp]

Indeed, farming honor is rather pointless like that, especially in my bracket (20-29). It usually turns out badly. The constant lack of team work Alliance side frustrates me, but I've not changed from Dwarf to Tauren just yet. Its like the Alliance is firing a shotgun at something 2,000 feet away, while the Horde is using a sniper rifle.

...and then qq'ing about it.

[Mistro]

...and then qq'ing about it.

Its not a qq, its a fact ;).

[MrBCorp]

Its not a qq, its a fact ;).

I meant them, not you. As in, they can't play, and then cry about it, citing unfair advantages etc...

[Valas Azuviir]

I a complete noob to this site.
could you please teach me how to post ?

You just did. Either use the new thread button, if you want to start a new thread. Use the reply button to quote someone in a pre-existing thread and then respond, or use the quick reply box at the bottom also in a pre-existing thread.

It isn't rocket science.

[Richakin]

Actually, IT IS rocket science!


I notice Alliance would rather bash and make fun of each other in BG chat. I've seen "you all suck" more than anything else. I don't see horde doing that much at all...

Albeit, they aren't the 'well oiled machine' alliance seems to make em out to be, rarely do they decide on a 'plan' and all they do is call INCs.

By the time Alliance decide "ST overrun hit something else" the Horde already know where they are going...

Don't get me started on Alliance and wanting to hold onto ST so badly..."omg get ST BACK" ...ffs 10 horde are sitting on it. Yet the same 5-7 people continuously go after them...

[drewid]

lol on our Battlegroup - Bloodlust, us Horde have no plan in AB.
It is quite simple - Is it Blue? if yes, attack it!

We seem to just go with the flow, changing caps with little defence, if the Ally Zerg a base we attack two of theirs elsewhere. We dont care if they take the farm, because they will keep 5 players there defending against the odd horde that tries to run past, while the rest of the team takes the stables.

If some one calls an INC to farm from mine, and we have little defence at the farm we generally just attack the mine, since they all just left it to attack the farm.
I used to get worked up about D, but the free flowing (if its blue attack it ) seems to work quite well.

[Shellar]

That I understand people doing, but more honor comes from winning right?
Usually yes, but that's not always the case. Depending on the queue times, it may actually be more profittable to farm HKs until the 50-death limit is reached.

[Amra]

Took me a while to figure that out too. :hide:

WSG is a game of offense it seems to me. Rarely does the side playing D seem to win. By D I mean staying in the base or slugging it out in the open.

For the Horde!!

[jschild]

There should be little defense, but many people mid-field that are ready to do either A) rush to defend their flag if captured, or B) Rush to protect the player.

This will vary somewhat depending on how defensive the other team is.

I always choose to protect the flag, because as a Paladin I'm well suited to it. First, Judgment of Justice. Nothing ruins a Rogue's or Druid's day more than being forced to run at a max of 100% speed. Second, I have 1 stun and 1 weak sap style attack. Third, I can bubble and still attack the flag carrier. Even if I cannot kill the person, I can slow them down for a good bit of time to give more players to come kill them.