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WoW idk nething about WoW
11-08-2008, 03:31 PM
well i have hughes net which is satellite internet.. do you think itll work??
People actually play using dialup.
Best thing would be to get a trial of it and see how it goes. I can PM you a key if you'd like to try it out.
Tunga
11-08-2008, 03:58 PM
There is some discussion of this here:
http://www.worldofwar.net/forums/showthread.php?t=412984
Okay so it looks like Hughes provide a true satellite upload/download system (whereas some satellite connections use dial-up for the upload.)
The quick summary answer is that Satellite typically has good bandwidth but high pings. In less technical speak that means you can download lots of data in a shrot period but there is a longer delay between requesting something and recieving it because of the distances involved with sending data into space and back. This can make playing online games difficult.
Kalos used a good analogy (see link above): dial-up is a racing car, satellite is a lorry. If you want lots of stuff then it's quicker to get a lorry to bring it to you all in one go. The racing card can get to you faster but will have to make multiple trips. WoW and other games tend to send little bits of data often so they're better suited to dial-up.
Of course there are a lot of variables and other factors involved too so it's difficult to say whether it'll be okay for you, best bet is probably to get the trial and see how it works out.
Erinion
11-08-2008, 04:07 PM
Although people can play WoW on dialup (I've had it running fine when BTbroadband messed me around and I was running at 124 kb/s) its actually the latency thats going to cause you problems.
WoW doesnt actually send or recieve much in the way of data over your internet connection - when I play I have a little window open on my second screen to show my inbound and outbound data flow. Right now its peaking at 13 kb/s down and about 4 kb/s upload, so as you can see its actually quite a small amount of data (this will obviously vary depending on where you are in-game and what you are doing).
The problem you are going to have with satellite internet is the latency (ie - the speed at which this relative small amount of data reaches is destination, which is of course the server you are playing on).
At this moment the data Im sending/recieving has a latency of 102ms or 0.1 of a second. Thats 0.1 of a second to travel from my pc to the server. This is fine for me and will not disrupt the game at all.
With satellite internet its going to take a lot longer to firstly reach the satellite and then be sent from the satellite to the recieving station and then on to the server. The usual for satellite internet is anything from 500ms up to 1000ms and beyond. This will cause the game to "lag" and will cause you problems.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but that the facts.
Edit: Tunga beat me by seconds.... damn my slow internet!!
WoW idk nething about WoW
11-08-2008, 04:16 PM
so basically its not gonna work??
Erinion
11-08-2008, 04:26 PM
Not really...no. You could try a free trial and see how you get on.
Some satellite internet providers will install dialup for when bad weather won't let you get a satellite signal. You could see about using a dialup connection - it will actually allow you to play WoW better than satellite.
WoW idk nething about WoW
11-08-2008, 04:28 PM
People actually play using dialup.
Best thing would be to get a trial of it and see how it goes. I can PM you a key if you'd like to try it out.
what it " PMing a key for me to try it" mean ??
i have the game but not my desktop yet!!
Xlorep DarkHelm
11-08-2008, 04:33 PM
well i have hughes net which is satellite internet.. do you think itll work??
If you have dial-up or better, you'll have a fast enough internet connection. If you have a non-existent internet connection, it probably won't cut it. But then again, you'd also have quite a bit of difficulty reading this reply.
WoW idk nething about WoW
11-08-2008, 04:40 PM
If you have dial-up or better, you'll have a fast enough internet connection. If you have a non-existent internet connection, it probably won't cut it. But then again, you'd also have quite a bit of difficulty reading this reply.
haha my internet owns dial-up haha but its satellite and i didnt know if it would work
Tunga
11-08-2008, 05:11 PM
If you have dial-up or betterThis is the whole point, it's not as simple as saying your connection is "better" than dial-up. What is "better"?
my internet owns dial-up hahaSee my post above for why this may not be true.
I think you'll just have to get the free trial and see how it plays. Let us know how you get on, always interested in this kind of think because it's the kind fo question that gets asked every so often.
WoW idk nething about WoW
11-08-2008, 05:17 PM
ok ok will do mann probaly be around tues. or wed. because of the guy thats building my computer hasnt got it finished yet but ill be getting on soon and i will def. let you know what goes on..
do you think itll work haha??
Xlorep DarkHelm
11-08-2008, 07:54 PM
This is the whole point, it's not as simple as saying your connection is "better" than dial-up. What is "better"?
Ok, I should have qualified it by defining "dial-up or better" as "at least 56k upload & download bandwidth, consistently", which to me, was too obvious to need to state.
The game is playable on 56kbps. I think it can be done with 28.8kbps, but you'll see some real strangeness in how things move around, because you will noticeably be below what WoW needs.
The problem with dial-up, is it tends to not be consistent. 56kbps is typically the average or the high-end bandwidth you have, but it fluctuates noticeably, which will cause bizarre network latency.
The thing is, Hughes tends to be sat. upload & download, and that tends to be considerably better than dial-up. So the entire point of what I had originally said was more along the lines of.... the original OP's question was either incredibly dumb, incredibly naive, or rhetorical. Based on the OP's comments I've seen, I'm leaning to naive more than anything else. As such, the response I gave was supposed to basically state "yes, of course your connection will most likely be far and above whatever you will need for WoW".
Erinion
11-08-2008, 10:19 PM
Xlorep and the OP- Read this please (http://www.vsat-systems.com/satellite-internet-explained/latency.html)
This explains that satellite internet is not actually good for online gaming.
It is not "most likely be far and above whatever you will need for WoW" due to the high latency - and this is from a satellite internet provider.
This is from Hughes Net themselves - click on question 16 (http://www.hughes.com/HUGHES/Rooms/DisplayPages/LayoutInitial?Container=com.webridge.entity.Entity%5BOID%5B15A93A2DA4CDCC4F9CE726CB27566F74%5D%5D)
Again... Satellite internet is not good for WoW.
Tunga
12-08-2008, 12:11 AM
Ok, I should have qualified it by defining "dial-up or better" as "at least 56k upload & download bandwidth, consistently", which to me, was too obvious to need to state.See my post on the previous page, or the one I linked to (by Kalos), or the links above, things are not that simple. Bandwidth is not the ultimate of how good a connection is, especially when it comes to games.
Xlorep DarkHelm
12-08-2008, 12:29 AM
See my post on the previous page, or the one I linked to (by Kalos), or the links above, things are not that simple. Bandwidth is not the ultimate of how good a connection is, especially when it comes to games.
True enough, but the OP doesn't strike me as someone who will bother with, or even really necessarily be able to grasp the subtle details. There is a number of other details that would potentially need consideration. I was merely stating the base standard to weigh and measure against. And of course, the OP would need to, y'know... test it him/herself.
WoW idk nething about WoW
12-08-2008, 04:19 AM
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Xlovk
12-08-2008, 06:47 PM
Just expirement with it, and if it doesn get rid of satelite internet :P
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