Is it true Hunter best solo pve class? What about best pvp class?

[bearcrazy]

Hi,

If hunter is not the best solo pve class, what is it?

What about best pvp class?

I am new in this game.

Please help

[semiiramiis]

Hi,

If hunter is not the best solo pve class, what is it?

What about best pvp class?

I am new in this game.

Please help

Unhelpful answer incoming in 3,2,1. There is no best. Sorry it isn't that easy. Hunters are good solo pve toons, certainly. I wouldn't qualify them as the best in pvp, but they're solid. Equally, I could not tell you which was THE BEST. I firmly believe that every class, played well, can dominate.

[Beruen]

Agreed. I'm a firm believer that people are going to play best what they enjoy the most. Yes, Hunters are insanely good at leveling. So good, in fact, that a lot of hunters don't really learn their class while leveling. A hunter can do almost everything wrong, and still level fast enough that they never take the time to say "there's got to be a better way."

Warlocks, if you've taken the time to learn the class, can be every bit as strong at leveling and quest grinding, if not more so, but a poorly played warlock will leave you mad at the class.

Feral druids also make for fast leveling, especially if you take the time to learn the class. It's fun being able to kill equal level mobs so fast that you have to wait for your cooldown on prowl before you go to the next mob.

Personally, I think every class can do quite well at leveling, but some take more learning than others, and some are just more natural fits to the way a certain player thinks and plays, and that is what you need to look for. Yes, hunters make for great braindead leveling. And yet, I know people with lvl 70s of harder classes to level, that could never get a hunter half way to 70, if only because they just didn't enjoy the class enough to play it enough.

[elsegundo]

play a priest. they heal themselves.

[kangrave]

play a priest. they heal themselves.

Do not listen to this. That would be terrible advice to take. Atm only 1 priest spec is decent in PVP, discipline.

The way things look in WOTLK beta the priest class as a whole is going to get even worse in PVP.

I'd suggest you roll a druid to heal or pretty much anything other than a shadow priest to DPS.

[elsegundo]

and so we end up with yet another hunter... of the billions already playing. thanks.

[pergolesi]

My primary toon was a hunter. Yes, you can level fast, but now I'm playing my feral Druid. As Druid gets higher lvl he's getting very good at leveling. In his teens and 20s I thought he was weak and clueless, but things got lots better as I moved up. You see, he can change shapes, he can root opponents and heal, he can put out lots of dps, shift to bear and tank (bear has a special heal), and he can stealth. Stealth saves lots and lots of combat to get at the goals of a quest. He can explore stealthed and strike out of nowhere like a rogue. He is, in my opinion, as good as a hunter at leveling after 40. I've never been a shaman, but ones I've observed seem to be very fast at leveling too. You just have to go with what you like. But leveling isn't everything. There are other things to playing the game.

[Tort]

and so we end up with yet another hunter... of the billions already playing. thanks.

Why do you care? I don't see what business you have telling someone they shouldn't play a certain class. In fact, I have actually leveled TWO hunters now, in addition to my warrior main. Commence QQing now?

[dwarfenhelm]

i would say hunters are by far the easiest class to lvl up but as to best that is only down to you and the way the play the game. on my hunter i can out dps players with better gear than me due to me knowing how to play my class. i used to think my dwarf warrior was the best class purely because i love dungeons and raids but die to a bad experiemce in a guild i know have ignored my warrior for over 6 months and play my priest mostly. but still i gravitate to my hunter and try to pug as many raids on him as poss.
for pvp i find my hunter is pretty good but not the best. warlocks are great for pvp and so are rogues. but it still all comes down to how good you are and not how good your class is. my holy/disc priest does really well in bg's holding my own on damage keeping high on healing chart and getting most of the killing blows but if a rogue or warrior decides they want to kill me then i end up dead

[Erinion]

Isnt there a sticky for this question? I suggest you read that first

[Hatchetharry]

I would say a lock's just as good as a hunter at pve, you also don't have to pay for ammo, the downside is that if your pet loses aggro you are a little more fragile than a hunter due to the fact that you are using cloth armour.

[Wintrow]

I would say a lock's just as good as a hunter at pve, you also don't have to pay for ammo, the downside is that if your pet loses aggro you are a little more fragile than a hunter due to the fact that you are using cloth armour.

Drain Life, Siphon Life and Death Coil more than make up for this.

[Dhoum]

The Hunter is not the best, but it can be the easiest.

Unfortunately there are so many Hunters who haven't taken the time to learn the class and thus are more of a liability than a help in a group situation, that the class as a whole has acquired something of a bad name. This is a great shame because it can be a superb class when played well.

But then, as has been said, any class can be superb if played well.

[Erinion]

I hate having another hunter in a 5 man and realising they cant trap, kite or use feign death effectively. I then spend the whole instance explaining line of site trapping, slowing mobs down and managing agro (all of which are not really needed when levelling). Then I spend the rest of the time with them asking where I got my bow, bracers, chest etc.

I'm a hunter and I hate them all.

[semiiramiis]

I hate having another hunter in a 5 man and realising they cant trap, kite or use feign death effectively. I then spend the whole instance explaining line of site trapping, slowing mobs down and managing agro (all of which are not really needed when levelling). Then I spend the rest of the time with them asking where I got my bow, bracers, chest etc.

I'm a hunter and I hate them all.

To be honest, you've pretty much just described the joy that any player really good at a class experiences when they find themselves in a party or guild with others of that class. I stand as class leader in my guild, and I am bombarded by...
"Hey, Dama... You have a weird spec. Why don't you have the same spec as every other resto shaman around?" (Obviously because I feel mine is better, like, d'uh!) "Where'd you get....<insert item here>?" My personal favorite is the never ending "I want <insert totem here>!" That I get all the time I become desperate enough to pug. Quite bluntly, a good shaman should be left alone to decide on their own which totems should be dropped, where, and when. Because I drop (or don't drop) on a strictly situational basis, I get a lot of other shamans wanting to know why I picked <totem A> instead of whatever they would have used.

What you're experiencing only comes with the territory. Admittedly, hunters seem to have a bigger opportunity to mess up and not be covered by another party member.... (Misdirect! Misdirect! Pull THAT mob, but only THAT mob, yes I know there are four of them patting up there! Oh, GG noob, you just wiped the raid because you pulled two!) But the old hand position is just part of life.

[elsegundo]

Why do you care? I don't see what business you have telling someone they shouldn't play a certain class. In fact, I have actually leveled TWO hunters now, in addition to my warrior main. Commence QQing now?

i care because i want him to level up a character that he'll enjoy playing. Having someone play a character because its "the best for pve", or "the best for pvp" shows me he has very little understanding of the game, let alone very little understanding of what enjoyment might mean. sure we all wanna skip to the end and be the best, but with so many classes in this game, its hard to actually say what's the best. there is simply no "best". there is, however, what's best for you.

as for your example of playing two hunters, i do not think your decision to play then was due to the premise that the hunter was the "best" class. im sure you had other considerations put into choosing to level the class. i have a hunter as well, and i play it very well. and no, i did not choose it because its "the best pve" class. i chose it because it interest me and i wanted to try the playstyle. plus, i leveled him MM and it was a blast to play. my point is, when someone asks what the best class to play, the answer could be anything.

[elsegundo]

I would say a lock's just as good as a hunter at pve, you also don't have to pay for ammo, the downside is that if your pet loses aggro you are a little more fragile than a hunter due to the fact that you are using cloth armour.
thats funny. i play with my imp on phaseshift+passive 100% of the time.
my pet never gets aggro to begin with so i dont understand.


sorry for the double post. i forgot this was the same thread. lol

[semiiramiis]

Everyday I see this question: Which (race, class) is best? Occasionally, the poster gives me enough to go on to give a certain level of helpfulness to my answer, such as "I want dps, don't want to heal, and want to solo well." That is a question I can answer with some certainty. What I hate are the "I want to be... the best in.... solo, pvp, and yes, I want to raid Sunwell!"

Quite bluntly, if there was such a godly class, we'd all be playing it. However, this game has a concept called balance, and it means, there is no BEST. There are better ideas, and there are worse ideas, but overall...no best. For every class brought up, I can put forth an argument on why they're great, and equally, why they are supreme suckage.

The best, and only advice I can give is simple. Pick what *you* want to play. The grind to 70/80 is long, tedious, and vicious enough with a toon you love, it becomes unbearable with one you don't. I've seen plenty of people who bring their "this is what I was advised to play!" toon and trial run with my guild. They are usually terribad at what they do, and yes, guild officers can most certainly tell when you're terribad. (This became very prevalent when horde guilds realized they needed protadins for raids like SSC. The proliferation of BAD horde pointyearedadins still brings nausea to my heart) We are wise enough to judge how much of that suckage factor comes from your gear, and how much is just...this class is not for you. The greatest players are playing the class/spec/race/faction that they love, in spite of everything. These are the players who dominate, simply because their hearts are in it. When TBC came out, it was loudly suggested that I take my resto shaman and respec back to enhancement to "level faster". I had finally discovered my niche, where I truly belonged after 56 levels of enhancement, and I decided my answer to that was a resounding negative. I stayed resto. I made 70 in good time, and remained my friends' go to healer.

Likewise, we have people playing toons not normally considered "maximized" for raiding, because they love what they're doing and they're good at it. I'd rather have an elemental shaman in my raid who is competent and knows what he's doing than a raid maximized mage who doesn't.

Finally, the fact that few of these posts want to face: if it's quick and easy to level, it's not highly desired. If you want to be wanted, level the more difficult and time consuming class.

[Reverendi]

*Gives Semiiramiis a standing ovation*

That post sums everything up pretty much perfectly, in my opinion. If there was a class that was 'best' for a rather large facet of the game, I suspect that our beloved WoW would have stagnated quite a while back and wouldn't have a tenth of the user base they have now. I know that often there are dissenting grumbles about class nerfs (alleged) and how OP certain classes are, and that they SHOULD be nerfed (again, allegedly), but I personally believe that ol' Blizz have done a rather fine job of making each class equally valuable in a group setting...and this is an MMO, after all.

I don't want the PvE portion of the game to be so easy I can stroll through it just by mashing my head on the keyboard every time I get into a fight. If I could stride from the streets of Orgrimmar all the way to the Black Temple, smiting left, right and centre with nary a pause to chug a pot, I would soon lose interest.
I don't want to have an uber-class that can tear strips off every other class in the game without breaking a sweat. I love it when my rogue sees a clothie, does a cheeky cackle, shadowstep and prepares for stunlock domination when all of a sudden they are behind me, freezing me in position and blasting seven shades of...er...shiny things out of me from a distance while I frantically try and close the distance to give them merry hell. Sometimes I'll get them, sometimes I won't. That's what keeps me interested.

Level a character to 20, see how you feel...if it doesn't sit right with you, try another class. Pick one that makes you want to make shiny little macros, pick one you like the /dance emote for, pick one that you enjoy so much that you go out into the real world and buy material for and try and recreate your armour from cardboard boxes and stand in your street when you should be asleep yelling (but quietly) 'FOR THE HORDE!' and then feeling embarrassed and ashamed but secretly you don't care and....um.

I made that last part up. Never done that myself. Honest. *slinks off*

[Grubz]

Night Elf Hunters if played right can be unstoppable in pvp. They have enemy tracking right on their map, plus, with shadowmeld racial, they can go invisible which combine with prowl is a great method of either avoiding getting killed and setting up someone for a gank.

[BIOME]

The hunter is a great quest soloing class because you can have a pet which tanks for you, while you stand in the back shooting your ranged weapon. It is a lot harder for hunters to die when they are questing because of this. For PVP, hunters are great too for that same reason. There really isn't a best class. If there was a best class, there would be no point in this game. It just depends what you want to do in the future when you hit level 70 or soon level 80.