Girls DO play Wow

[Caroliney]

Hey Guys, am new to the site, found it via someone who was at the Stevenage (UK) Gamestation Midnight launch last night. (So hello to you if you read this!)

Loving the site,
and am glad to see the girls not playing Wow argument, truely wee wee'd on.

Nice to meet new people,
and more girls!!

If you're a girl and play Wow, say hello xD

xoxoxo

[Maticus]

Hello! Welcome to the site :)

I was at the London launch, great atmosphere at these things, and love meeting more people who play WoW :thumbsup:

[Caroliney]

Hello! Welcome to the site :)

I was at the London launch, great atmosphere at these things, and love meeting more people who play WoW :thumbsup:

Hey xD
can smell you from here !

bet it was fab in London, was sorely tempted by it, but wouldn't have been able to get a late train back here.

Where in London did you go shopwise :) ?
xoxoxo

[Eileithyia]

I was shocked at first to find that plenty of girls play wow, goes to show how much of a good game it actually is. (to get girls hooked)

Heya and welcome.

[Wiglet]

*waves* Hiya, I'm a girl and i know about 15 girls that play wow on my server alone.
Im gutted, i was due to go to the London launch with my brother and boyfriend but i've moved to a TINY village in Yorkshire. :(

Oh and welcome to the forum!

[odinsnephew]

I was shocked at first to find that plenty of girls play wow, goes to show how much of a good game it actually is. (to get girls hooked)

I know. All that time you girls/ladies lose not looking through shoe shops must mean it's bloody brilliant :grin:

[elsegundo]

i know a few girls that play wow. not at all uncommon.

[WatcherZero]

we have half a dozen girls in our guild, youll find a lot of them in the wider population are shy and dont like using their real voice or saying their a woman because they fear (and they do) get treated differently.

[Caroliney]

*waves* Hiya, I'm a girl and i know about 15 girls that play wow on my server alone.
Im gutted, i was due to go to the London launch with my brother and boyfriend but i've moved to a TINY village in Yorkshire. :(

Oh and welcome to the forum!

hehe thanks for the welcomes !
clearly im on the wrong server :O

my boyfriend and i were donned in outfits last night hehe
i was a tauren shamen (oprah windfury) and my boyfriend was a red defias/van cleef :D xoxoxo

[Eileithyia]

I know. All that time you girls/ladies lose not looking through shoe shops must mean it's bloody brilliant :grin:
lol, now thats done during my lunch break in work. One of the advantages of working in the city centre, shop by day and WoW by night. :wink:

[Twoflower]

welcome, i am a boy and i think we should have more girls playing WoW :P

[Proverbs]

Mila Kunis plays or at least used to play and she is super attractive to all men.

[Cyberelf]

Hey Guys, am new to the site, found it via someone who was at the Stevenage (UK) Gamestation Midnight launch last night. (So hello to you if you read this!)

Loving the site,
and am glad to see the girls not playing Wow argument, truely wee wee'd on.

Nice to meet new people,
and more girls!!

If you're a girl and play Wow, say hello xD

xoxoxo

I am the guild leader on the Maelstrom Server in the US. 2/3s of my guild (27 of them ) are women (and Alliance)!

Drop me a line if you wanna come play with us!

[Proverbs]

*creates toon on Maelstrom*

I'll be in touch, is Cyberelf your toon's name?

[MrBCorp]

Mila Kunis plays or at least used to play and she is super attractive to all men.

Even the g*y one's? That's quite an accomplishment.

[Athishakthan]

more than 40% for WoW players are females. On my server there are more females than males (Alliance side)

[everytimeidie]

Build me a woman (that plays wow)

[Eileithyia]

It’s funny because in my house it’s different. ‘Build me a man that plays wow, instead of shooting/violent games’

[odinsnephew]

It’s funny because in my house it’s different. ‘Build me a man that plays wow, instead of shooting/violent games’

Says the Gnome killer :grin:

[Eileithyia]

Hehe indeed, but gnomes kind of spook me out, I put them in the same level of creepiness as spiders and crawly things.

[everytimeidie]

It’s funny because in my house it’s different. ‘Build me a man that plays wow, instead of shooting/violent games’


Well maybe we can come to some sort of compromise. You build me the half I need, and I can provide the parts and labor for the other half.

[Shellar]

Over 70% of our guild consists of married couples with both spouses playing the game.

[Eileithyia]

Does everyone got the WotLK cd key? it's a good game. I got mine from

No thanks

/shoo

[everytimeidie]

I clicked on it, it totally worked.

[surodat]

From my personal polling - asking girls I meet in pubs if they want to come home and play wow with me - the statement at the start of this thread is wrong.

Although, now that I think on it, my intentions could have been misconstrued.

[Aerath]

This has to be one of the cleverestest ways of driving all the girls on this site into a single thread.

Great job !

[Mollymog]

Over 70% of our guild consists of married couples with both spouses playing the game.

We're a couple who play. And both have several alts and neither prefers male or female so that the choice of char doesn't match the gender of the player. My partner says a lot of women playing avoid saying that they are female because it brings all sorts of annoying and unwarranted attention. Sounds perfectly reasonable. Some guys, she says, assume a woman has taken up the game because she's looking for a male/female relationship, but that's the last thing on the mind of most women playing.

[Caroliney]

We're a couple who play. And both have several alts and neither prefers male or female so that the choice of char doesn't match the gender of the player. My partner says a lot of women playing avoid saying that they are female because it brings all sorts of annoying and unwarranted attention. Sounds perfectly reasonable. Some guys, she says, assume a woman has taken up the game because she's looking for a male/female relationship, but that's the last thing on the mind of most women playing.


so true,
my boyfriend and i both play wow,
my boyfriend played a troll warrior (female)
and i played a tauren shamen (male)

not after in game attention for being female, but i think if someone's being a cock, if you're a couple playing, it can become rather obvious when they stick up for you or you for them with certain things as you would irl.

either that, or they think that we're homosexual! (nothing wrong with that ofc.) :)
xoxoxo

[lucah]

shocking i never knew

oh wait that other thing

[MrBCorp]

This has to be one of the cleverestest ways of driving all the girls on this site into a single thread.

Great job !

It still feels a little short, like some of them are still hiding.

not after in game attention for being female, but i think if someone's being a cock, if you're a couple playing, it can become rather obvious when they stick up for you or you for them with certain things as you would irl.

Typically men and women speak differently which makes it easier to tell who is who. I'm not saying everyone is obvious. It is possible to be tricked though, like the poor sap who said to one of my friends something like "hey, I know you probably don't want everyone to know, but you're a girl, right?"

either that, or they think that we're homosexual! (nothing wrong with that ofc.) :)

Hehe, I was playing in a group and slowly everyone left except for me and this NE Priest. We were killing things when she just happen to mention that she was waiting for her bf, who was still sleeping (without mentioning that she was a girl). I knew what she meant, but I decided to have some fun and I asked her if she was gay. Her response, "ROFL! No WAY! I'm a girl." It was good for a laugh. :grin:

Although to be honest, the only girl(s) I've actually seen play the game were my sister and she wasn't all that fussed about it. I don't know, maybe I have to see it to fully believe it...

[Mollymog]

so true,
my boyfriend and i both play wow,
my boyfriend played a troll warrior (female)
and i played a tauren shamen (male)

not after in game attention for being female, but i think if someone's being a cock, if you're a couple playing, it can become rather obvious when they stick up for you or you for them with certain things as you would irl.

either that, or they think that we're homosexual! (nothing wrong with that ofc.) :)
xoxoxo

Believe it or not, in our guild, we've actually encountered guildies who thought women were 'not smart enough' to play WoW or believed women are only interested in housekeeping and children and new recipes! I'm sure a couple of brilliant women physicians I know would be astounded to hear that these attitudes still prevail, but of course they do. The glass ceiling is there in more ways than one. :sad:

[lucah]

Believe it or not, in our guild, we've actually encountered guildies who thought women were 'not smart enough' to play WoW or believed women are only interested in housekeeping and children and new recipes! I'm sure a couple of brilliant women physicians I know would be astounded to hear that these attitudes still prevail, but of course they do. The glass ceiling is there in more ways than one. :sad:

I get treated like that a lot - a lot of times it's offhanded though as in "awh i am doing this quest" and then i get a response like "oh you're going to have real trouble with that - I solo'd it no problem want help?"

Grrrh.

[sylverin]

My GL is a girl, and the feral drood tank for most of my instances is a girl.

[Aerath]

I get treated like that a lot - a lot of times it's offhanded though as in "awh i am doing this quest" and then i get a response like "oh you're going to have real trouble with that - I solo'd it no problem want help?"

Grrrh.

I say that to everyone - gender doesn't quite make a difference there :grin:
The joys of being a druid :smiley:

[Gorny]

Sometimes, I'll be running around killing time and randomly ask if anyone needs help, results:

Ran a low level group through stockades with my 70 warrior for nothing, and had them lol'ing as I chain pulled half the place at the same time.

Hordeside, saved a level 6 from a group of level 8 mobs with an arcane explosion.

One shotted an elite for somebody.

[Maticus]

Shameless plug: As you all know, I'm a girl, and here's me interviewing people at the London Launch of Lich King if you missed it :D

http://www.worldofwar.net/blog/comments/london-wotlk-launch-video/

[drewid]

Our Guild leader is a Female too, Seems there are a lot of female GLs.

However, my "young" son plays and loves it, his little sister likes to play, but she likes finding pretty rooms to go to sleep in or nice dresses to wear, i dont think shes ever owned a weapon other than the initial lvl 1 default weapon. :rolleyes:

[Trakamoocow]

I don't find/believe that your genitalia has anything to do with your skill level.

I do believe however that a lot of women play the girl card to get assistance. And another swath have had a boyfriend introduce them to the game, and do most of the work for them. This is probably where the whole 'women suxs' stigma comes from.

[MrBCorp]

Sometimes, I'll be running around killing time and randomly ask if anyone needs help, results:

Ran a low level group through stockades with my 70 warrior for nothing, and had them lol'ing as I chain pulled half the place at the same time.

Hordeside, saved a level 6 from a group of level 8 mobs with an arcane explosion.

One shotted an elite for somebody.

Wrong thread?

Ran a low level group through stockades with my 70 warrior for nothing, and had them lol'ing as I chain pulled half the place at the same time.

Is this unusual? My friend used to pull all of VC (deadmines der!) back in pre-BC times. But then again he's impatient and likes challenges.

Shameless plug: As you all know, I'm a girl, and here's me interviewing people at the London Launch of Lich King if you missed it :D

http://www.worldofwar.net/blog/comments/london-wotlk-launch-video/

Omg that's you? For some reason I thought you looked different. Maybe it's that awesome avatar you have...

I don't find/believe that your genitalia has anything to do with your skill level.

No offense to the opposite sex, but I have yet to come across any girls that are as good as the best guys at this game. Maybe I've just had bad luck (or they all play Horde, or they were actually girls and I didn't know).

On the other hand, I've enjoyed /chat more when playing with girls. They're also better for help (no He-Men, more willing to group, etc).

Believe it or not, in our guild, we've actually encountered guildies who thought women were 'not smart enough' to play WoW or believed women are only interested in housekeeping and children and new recipes!

LOL! That is hilarious!

[Mollymog]

No offense to the opposite sex, but I have yet to come across any girls that are as good as the best guys at this game. Maybe I've just had bad luck (or they all play Horde, or they were actually girls and I didn't know).

On the other hand, I've enjoyed /chat more when playing with girls. They're also better for help (no He-Men, more willing to group, etc).

LOL! That is hilarious!

First of all, you can never be sure that the guy you've just seen wipe out a whole huge mob singlehanded isn't female, just because he claims to be a male who is a bodybuilder in his spare time. I know a number of women who simply don't reveal their gender within the game because of unwarranted or unpleasant assumptions foisted on them by male players. It's a lot easier I think to claim to be male and get left alone.

I have to agree with you that women generally in-game seem to be kinder, more reasonable, less inclined to posture and huff about things. And certainly their language seems a lot better. A testosterone thing, I guess.

For me, it's a non-issue, this matter of gender. I like to group with a player if that player is sensible, fairly competent, doesn't ninja, and takes a fair share of the load. I tested the whole thing once by telling a guy I'd grouped with that I was a 15 year old girl named Hilary. And he fell for it wholesale, saying immediately 'Ur awsome, were do u live, in UK, can we meet up sumtime'. I had been transformed immediately from another player to a sort of sex object. Gave me some idea of what women have to put up with.

[Mollymog]

Shameless plug: As you all know, I'm a girl, and here's me interviewing people at the London Launch of Lich King if you missed it :D

http://www.worldofwar.net/blog/comments/london-wotlk-launch-video/


And thank you very much for interviewing normal looking people. The BBC's slant on it was to interview only the weirder faction and make it look as if WoW players were all on another planet. :laugh:

[Wiglet]

And thank you very much for interviewing normal looking people. The BBC's slant on it was to interview only the weirder faction and make it look as if WoW players were all on another planet. :laugh:

Ha ha I KNOW. with coverage like that no wonder people assume everyone who plays WoW is an UBERNERD. Nowt wrong with dressing up for the launch but the way it was portrayed was like LOADS of people who went out at midnight to get the game dressed up. I certainly wasn't going to be donning a Night Elf suit to pop to my local Tesco's for fear of being jumped and stabbed. :wink:

[det]

And thank you very much for interviewing normal looking people. The BBC's slant on it was to interview only the weirder faction and make it look as if WoW players were all on another planet. :laugh:

What is the weirder faction then? I mean...you gonna look weird no matter what, queuing for 25 hours and talking about blood, unholy or frost tanking :)

And ofc there was that lovely cow costume girl towards the end of the vid ;)

[Mollymog]

Ha ha I KNOW. with coverage like that no wonder people assume everyone who plays WoW is an UBERNERD. Nowt wrong with dressing up for the launch but the way it was portrayed was like LOADS of people who went out at midnight to get the game dressed up. I certainly wasn't going to be donning a Night Elf suit to pop to my local Tesco's for fear of being jumped and stabbed. :wink:

I ordered it ahead of time from Amazon.co.uk, and was amazed when it arrived from Jersey on the 13th at 9 am, probably the same time I could have lurched off to any of the local stores. S'pose I could have dressed as something truly weird and memorable to receive it at the door, but........ the unshaven, sleepless me was probably weird and frightening enough for the Royal Mail. :grin:

[Mollymog]

What is the weirder faction then? I mean...you gonna look weird no matter what, queuing for 25 hours and talking about blood, unholy or frost tanking :)

And ofc there was that lovely cow costume girl towards the end of the vid ;)

I think the 'weird' bit was that they selected people who seemed to have no other life. The costumes were fun (albeit meaningless to non-players, even with explanations). I'd have liked a few (however strangely costumed) who said something like 'I'm an accountant, but I play this thing two hours a day and find it a great change from the usual daily grind'. I was dismayed by the tone of the coverage, which seemed to be 'All these people are crazy and perhaps addicted and we're going to give you a look into their abnormal lives and by the way, they're all multi-pierced, dyed-haired oddballs'.

[Eileithyia]

The only down side for me playing against males players is that I’ve got small hands, and have problems using the mouse and hot keys.

[Mollymog]

The only down side for me playing against males players is that I’ve got small hands, and have problems using the mouse and hot keys.

We use trackballs here and find them really good for gameplay.

[det]

I think the 'weird' bit was that they selected people who seemed to have no other life. The costumes were fun (albeit meaningless to non-players, even with explanations). I'd have liked a few (however strangely costumed) who said something like 'I'm an accountant, but I play this thing two hours a day and find it a great change from the usual daily grind'. I was dismayed by the tone of the coverage, which seemed to be 'All these people are crazy and perhaps addicted and we're going to give you a look into their abnormal lives and by the way, they're all multi-pierced, dyed-haired oddballs'.

Yeah, it is damn stupid..because everybody else is allowed to dress up and be like that, but we want you to do it on days that we all agree on..like carnival and such.

Problem with rituals^^. Bunch of people believeing a bunny rabbit hides eggs in bushes and we all go looking for them. Only we are not weird, because millions of us agreed that this is the proper way to celebrate the death and resurrection of the son that our god felt inclined to sacrifice.

People suck :laugh:

[MrBCorp]

First of all, you can never be sure that the guy you've just seen wipe out a whole huge mob singlehanded isn't female, just because he claims to be a male who is a bodybuilder in his spare time. I know a number of women who simply don't reveal their gender within the game because of unwarranted or unpleasant assumptions foisted on them by male players. It's a lot easier I think to claim to be male and get left alone.

Yes that's true, but at least half the time most females don't even say they're females, it's usually after a while, after you get to know them, when either they mention it (usually subtle hints, not usually outright declaring it) or you ask. But yes it is hard to tell (perhaps impossible) random strangers. Usually in the general or party or raid chat if someone is behaving badly, yelling, engaged in ePeen contests or other such adolescent stuff I assume them to be male.

For me, it's a non-issue, this matter of gender.

I would say, for me too, except:

I like to group with a player if that player is sensible, fairly competent, doesn't ninja, and takes a fair share of the load.

Same. Problem is:

I have to agree with you that women generally in-game seem to be kinder, more reasonable, less inclined to posture and huff about things. And certainly their language seems a lot better. A testosterone thing, I guess.

It's probably a testosterone. It's probably also an oestrogen thing.

[det]

No offense to the opposite sex, but I have yet to come across any girls that are as good as the best guys at this game.

Give the ladies a break ^^ With a ratio of 90% guys to 10% girls (my estimate) chances are just against them.

But check out some of the guides for killing SWP bosses that are made and narrated by a girl (Clearly) who may also be the raid / guildleader of Deathwish

But can girls be as nerdy as guys? Sure they can. Had a heavily pregnant girl fight, push and shove with the crowd on the midnight opening for LK, yelling "Carefull or my water breaks". Talk about putting yourself at risk for a game.

Girls lead some of our raids, well and sucessfully. And they are also not all saints :rolleyes:

Yesterday, we were all busy levelling, and our first to lv 80 is indeed a priest. And a girl. Around that time when she dinged 80, we invited another girl to the raidguild. Also a priest, lv 73. Who made a lasting impression on entry by adressing our lv 80 priestlady with the words "Oh my, you must have no life. Lv 80 already...I wish I was unemployed too"

[Super Sneaky Steve]

From my observations cute good girls play humans, naughty girls play night elfs and ugly girls play dwarfs.

[odinsnephew]

From my observations cute good girls play humans, naughty girls play night elfs and ugly girls play dwarfs.

And all males play female blood elves? :grin:

By your observations I also guess small ladies play Gnomes and tall ones play Draenai?

[TacticSiege]

Interesting thread. I've got some comments to add in general.

A lot of you mentioned a high volume of female GLs. About a year ago I did research for a debate in a management class, debating if Men or Women made the best leaders. Of course the issue is rather moot, the Best Leaders make the best leaders, gender doesn't determine 'best'.

But the research shows that men and women lead differently. Women tend to nurture relationships more, when men tend to lead via authority. Women would prefer to have everyone get a long, men tend not to care if everyone gets a long, just that things get done.

This is very generalized of course, and most of the comparisions between genders had a very close relation (40% of men, 60% of women type close). The studies I looked at also looked at certain criteria for rating the 'best' leaders, and men/women were close enough to 50-50 that the obvious/only conclusion is that neither men nor women are 'better' at certain leadership positions. However they do handle them differently.

With the vast array of people playing WoW, it makes sense that some prefer to work / work better with Women leaders. A GL role has less to do with game skill and more to do with management skill, imo. (not implying women have less game skill, just to clarify)

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Best ally-rogue pvp'er on my server is a female... Who has ironically become a semi-realm-celebrity by spamming "/2 Girls don't play WoW." in between arena/bg. This causes trade chat to erupt in misogynistic commentary for about 10 minutes each time.

I also think if you looked at the breakdown, the 10 - 16 year old age group tends to be much more male-bias, where as the mature 20 - 50 demographic is more evenly diverse. That, and not testosterone, has a lot to do with why 'more' guys are jerks. There are simply more immature by definition males playing the game.

And finally: I've never met a girl irl that plays WoW. :embarassed:

[MrBCorp]

And all males play female blood elves? :grin:

By your observations I also guess small ladies play Gnomes and tall ones play Draenai?

And the one's with tatts and stuff play undead :tongue:


Edit:
Interesting thread. I've got some comments to add in general.

A lot of you mentioned a high volume of female GLs. About a year ago I did research for a debate in a management class, debating if Men or Women made the best leaders. Of course the issue is rather moot, the Best Leaders make the best leaders, gender doesn't determine 'best'.

But the research shows that men and women lead differently. Women tend to nurture relationships more, when men tend to lead via authority. Women would prefer to have everyone get a long, men tend not to care if everyone gets a long, just that things get done.

This is very generalized of course, and most of the comparisions between genders had a very close relation (40% of men, 60% of women type close). The studies I looked at also looked at certain criteria for rating the 'best' leaders, and men/women were close enough to 50-50 that the obvious/only conclusion is that neither men nor women are 'better' at certain leadership positions. However they do handle them differently.

With the vast array of people playing WoW, it makes sense that some prefer to work / work better with Women leaders. A GL role has less to do with game skill and more to do with management skill, imo. (not implying women have less game skill, just to clarify)

</intelli-rant>

Best ally-rogue pvp'er on my server is a female... Who has ironically become a semi-realm-celebrity by spamming "/2 Girls don't play WoW." in between arena/bg. This causes trade chat to erupt in misogynistic commentary for about 10 minutes each time.

I also think if you looked at the breakdown, the 10 - 16 year old age group tends to be much more male-bias, where as the mature 20 - 50 demographic is more evenly diverse. That, and not testosterone, has a lot to do with why 'more' guys are jerks. There are simply more immature by definition males playing the game.

And finally: I've never met a girl irl that plays WoW. :embarassed:

Well said. I agree with that. What you say is backed up by science (I think). A good, interesting and humourous book I recommend on the subject of the differences between the sexes is "Why Men Don't Listen and Women Can't Read Maps" by Barbara & Allan Pease. A very entertaining and informative read. (yeah, I've plugged that book before, but it's a really good book :smiley:)

[everytimeidie]

Girls are easy to spot in WoW.

Especially if you open dialog with them.

[Mollymog]

Yesterday, we were all busy levelling, and our first to lv 80 is indeed a priest. And a girl. Around that time when she dinged 80, we invited another girl to the raidguild. Also a priest, lv 73. Who made a lasting impression on entry by adressing our lv 80 priestlady with the words "Oh my, you must have no life. Lv 80 already...I wish I was unemployed too"[/QUOTE]

I don't think, though, that you can blame that remark on gender - seems like just a rather jealous and unpleasant person.

And hey, another thing I've noticed in this game is ageism. People don't like to say if they're over 40. Or they admit it in such a shamefaced way that you can tell they expect to be viewed as old. One of our guildies is in her late 60s, another, a man, is in his 70s. And both get amazed comments like 'How can you manage to play at your age?' (Cue the zimmer frame, the cardie and slippers while the tea brews.) A 13 year old guildie said to the woman 'Aren't you afraid of dying?' and she said 'No. Are you?' The kid wasn't talking about dying in-game, either.

[odinsnephew]

And hey, another thing I've noticed in this game is ageism. People don't like to say if they're over 40. Or they admit it in such a shamefaced way that you can tell they expect to be viewed as old. One of our guildies is in her late 60s, another, a man, is in his 70s. And both get amazed comments like 'How can you manage to play at your age?' (Cue the zimmer frame, the cardie and slippers while the tea brews.) A 13 year old guildie said to the woman 'Aren't you afraid of dying?' and she said 'No. Are you?' The kid wasn't talking about dying in-game, either.

Yes that can be quite amusing if the age question pops up. I ran Auchenai (sp?) Crypts with my hunter recently and was rather surprised to find myself at 37 running with 4 x 13 year olds from the same school. Although I think they were more surprised :grin: It was their half term holiday I think. Was good fun tbh.

My Alliance guild is a family run one and i'm older than the parents of my Guild master :shocked:

[Eileithyia]

My Alliance guild is a family run one and i'm older than the parents of my Guild master :shocked:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f288/hizzett/icon_old.gif

[Mollymog]

Yes that can be quite amusing if the age question pops up. I ran Auchenai (sp?) Crypts with my hunter recently and was rather surprised to find myself at 37 running with 4 x 13 year olds from the same school. Although I think they were more surprised :grin: It was their half term holiday I think. Was good fun tbh.

My Alliance guild is a family run one and i'm older than the parents of my Guild master :shocked:

I'm not sure how gaming, online or not, became such a province of the very young. They may be a bit faster reflex-wise, but that's about all, I think. Gaming's fun for any age. A relative of mine played all the Fallout games when he was in his 80's and loved them. He was pretty good at them too.

[MrBCorp]

I'm not sure how gaming, online or not, became such a province of the very young. They may be a bit faster reflex-wise, but that's about all, I think. Gaming's fun for any age. A relative of mine played all the Fallout games when he was in his 80's and loved them. He was pretty good at them too.

I think the younger you are the faster you pick things up and learn new things. But once you've learned it, it should be fine.

Also gaming is seen as something young people do. Once you're old enough to drink you're expected to go out partying and stuff, other wise you're just a loser. (because drinking alcohol until you're absolutely trashed is mature and playing video games is not)

[Venzz]

I think the younger you are the faster you pick things up and learn new things. But once you've learned it, it should be fine.

Also gaming is seen as something young people do. Once you're old enough to drink you're expected to go out partying and stuff, other wise you're just a loser. (because drinking alcohol until you're absolutely trashed is mature and playing video games is not)

Played computer games since i was knee high to a grass hopper,started with a ZX81,atari,commodore 64 etc and then I eventually discovered women and booze:tongue:
Now i've settled down, finished with the partying and stuff years ago,retired from all that as i could not drink now what i used to get through. So indoors i stay with the missus and son playing wow.
Older i maybe than a lot in my guild, but as good or better than a lot of 13yr olds as arthritus hasn't kicked in yet.

[Mollymog]

I think the younger you are the faster you pick things up and learn new things. But once you've learned it, it should be fine.

Also gaming is seen as something young people do. Once you're old enough to drink you're expected to go out partying and stuff, other wise you're just a loser. (because drinking alcohol until you're absolutely trashed is mature and playing video games is not)

So, um........ what if you drink while you play video games?

[Mollymog]

Girls are easy to spot in WoW.

Especially if you open dialog with them.

Nope, I disagree. You have no way of knowing whether the person you're talking to is pretending to be any number of things. Women players (let's stop calling them 'girls') have had to develop self-protective behaviours when playing. If their gender is revealed they get a lot of whispers that are crude and inappropriate. I've experimented myself a couple of times and said I was female, just to see what happens. And really, the responses I got were amazing. I could see why my partner said once that she thought some weird men play the game. Of course it begs the question of why anyone would think he could find a sexual partner in an online game...... :shocked:

[det]

I don't know why ppl think they could, but I can tell you of at least 3 cases where they did....

One is the daughter of my schoolbuddy, who met her current bf in WoW, the other is in or raidgroup, actually ppl from countries 1000 km apart who now meet every few months.

Another was documented on BBC where a married woman got obsessed with a guy she met online, Her husband knows about it. He is the one keeping the family together, caring for the kids why she is totally engrossed in the game. Left the family to meet that guy, but her husband still loves her and suffers because he is unable to stop her. Was actually quite painful to watch.

So..I guess there is a lot of that going on...all the way to that story where a 14 or 15 year old girl was gonna meet an older guy (20-ish) and it was ofc blown out of the waters by the media as a case of abuse of minors through an online game.

[Anyndra]

I've been playing online for years, and only about a year ago did I mention to anyone that I'm not actually a guy. There was some discussion in guild chat about female gamers and someone asked if we had any in guild. After a bit of silence I decided to pipe up and got immediately reactions ranging from disbelief to "can I have your msn?" I had always been pretty quiet in guild chat and raids, so most only knew me as a name in guild roster and healing meters and still thought I would actually give them my msn (I didnt even have one at the time, so could refuse politely).

I lucked out with the next guild I joined, because they had a lot of female gamers including half the tanks and healers. The raid leader admitted he had previously held to prejudice against female gamers, but seeing me and the other 2 female officers playing so well changed his mind. He even said I'm one of the best tanks he had ever seen :D

It was a very positive experience, and after that I've been a bit more open about my gender even in pugs if the subject comes up. I still dont tell it to just anyone, but if the person/persons seem decent I dont see a reason to lie about it.

And to whoever said its easy to spot, from my experience no one has been able to guess it. But that might be simply because they dont expect to see female gamers and rather think up other explanations.

[Shellar]

Of course it begs the question of why anyone would think he could find a sexual partner in an online game...... :shocked:
For the same reason why some people think that they can win a lottery. You don't risk much, and if you win, you win big. (And yes, I'm speaking from experience here - me and my wife first met in Tirisfal Glades)

Furthermore, cyberspace is a great disinhibitor, more powerful than alcohol at times. When online, people will say and do things that they would never dare in ordinary life.

[MonkeyDust]

But the research shows that men and women lead differently. Women tend to nurture relationships more, when men tend to lead via authority. Women would prefer to have everyone get a long, men tend not to care if everyone gets a long, just that things get done.


And finally: I've never met a girl irl that plays WoW. :embarassed:

Hmmm - through personal experience I don't agree with the above. I've found that women who are bosses (I've had four!) play the 'divide and conquer' tactic. They have their trusty lieutenants and don't mind spreading misery if it means getting a boost to their own position.

Men are probably the same - but I have yet to have a direct male boss!

In other words when it comes to leading as you say do say - Gender really is irrelevant. In the world of Business to make it to the top there has to be something nasty within you otherwise you don't make it. And yes I do have a problem with authority.... ;)

And no I have never met a real life female who plays WoW... However my wife will hopefully be the first!....

[MrBCorp]

I lucked out with the next guild I joined...

That was confusing. I've always thought of "lucked out" as meaning "out of luck".

And no I have never met a real life female who plays WoW... However my wife will hopefully be the first!....

Lol, I love your attitude.

And to whoever said its easy to spot, from my experience no one has been able to guess it. But that might be simply because they dont expect to see female gamers and rather think up other explanations.

I don't know about easy to spot, but I know from experience that they are spottable. Mainly from communication. They tend to be more chatty and friendly and use less harsh words, also placing more importance on other people rather than things.

[zXz]

I don't find/believe that your genitalia has anything to do with your skill level.

I do believe however that a lot of women play the girl card to get assistance. And another swath have had a boyfriend introduce them to the game, and do most of the work for them. This is probably where the whole 'women suxs' stigma comes from.But are you sure that they are truly women? or simply just claiming to be one?

Also lets face it: some quests can not be done solo. They have to be done in a group. And this has nothing to do with gender. It's just the way the game was designed.

My first char in wow was a female blood elf priest. I chose it because my friends had told me I had to be a horde and I should roll a priest. And the blood elfs were the least ugly ones of the group. I can't tell you how many times I got whistled at. So I "fixed" that mistake by starting a male hunter. Now I just play the game. And people dont ask me what my gender is, so I don't tell :D. It works beautifuly.

[Your Average WoW Player]

Shameless plug: As you all know, I'm a girl, and here's me interviewing people at the London Launch of Lich King if you missed it :D

http://www.worldofwar.net/blog/comments/london-wotlk-launch-video/

Wait, what? Could of fooled me. Maybe it's because your Avatar is Prince Arthas Menethil, right before he murders his father.

[Anyndra]

That was confusing. I've always thought of "lucked out" as meaning "out of luck".

I've always used "lucked out" to mean got lucky, and in this case I did, because in 3 years I've only ever been in one guild I actually liked and that was them. :smiley: I was very happy to hear that they'll get the old crew back together for wotlk.


I don't know about easy to spot, but I know from experience that they are spottable. Mainly from communication. They tend to be more chatty and friendly and use less harsh words, also placing more importance on other people rather than things.

I'm usually pretty quiet around strangers, but otherwise you're completely correct. I dont cuss online, ever, because if I feel the need to do that I can just speak aloud and not bother others. I also tend to help people when I can and try to be polite to everyone. However, I'm sure there are many men who behave similarly and for most players its just more natural to assume they're talking to a man.

[Trakamoocow]

But are you sure that they are truly women? or simply just claiming to be one?

Also lets face it: some quests can not be done solo. They have to be done in a group. And this has nothing to do with gender. It's just the way the game was designed.

My first char in wow was a female blood elf priest. I chose it because my friends had told me I had to be a horde and I should roll a priest. And the blood elfs were the least ugly ones of the group. I can't tell you how many times I got whistled at. So I "fixed" that mistake by starting a male hunter. Now I just play the game. And people dont ask me what my gender is, so I don't tell :D. It works beautifuly.


Well most of the girls I referred to were on ventrilo, so I was pretty sure.

The kind that irritate me is the 'girly' girl types. The ones that put on (and yes, it IS put on) the girly-girl 'im so helpless' cute voice to get attention/assistance from guys. I've more respect for someone if they just talk normally and ask for a hand with something, gender be damned.

I've recently started a guild, and I don't plan on having any of the situations I've seen before happen again. I.e. guy being a tool to a girl, or girl manipulating guy/guys/guild for her own use. More than once I've thought "put your **** away dude, its ventrilo and the middle of a raid, not friday night at the local". If people actually want to chat each other up, its on their own time and not in channel with a dozen other people.

[Peter]

Want 2 b my intrawebz gf?

[asdaa]

god I hate the attention whores. "hey guys!....... also i'm a girl!!!". i've met one normal chick who's one of the GLeaders in my guild.

[SwervinCL]

I really don't care what gender you are. Skill is skill. I have come into contact with some girls that play that are great. Others that are less than average. Same with the guys. You either have it, or you don't.

We have 1 girl in one of my guilds that I believe is just there for the attention. She is one of our main healers, and to be honest, is not that great. She is the only paladin healer that I have ever seen OOM in the first 30 seconds of any boss fight. I would not say that has anything to with gender, but regardless. She is the only female that I have come across that just plain sucks. Every other one has been fine. I have actually played with more, better females than I have bad ones.