Would I get in trouble?

[unregisteredusername]

A couple months ago I let a friend of mine use my account because I wasn't gonna play anymore and he sold it. I want to get back in to WoW and I could get the account back using the secret answer, but would I get in trouble for this? Apparently he sold it to a site and the site sold it to another person so would taking it back get me in trouble?

[Twoflower]

would it be the right thing to do ? ask yourself...

and then go and buy the game again.

[unregisteredusername]

It's difficult for me to just drop 90$ on a new WOTLK account and spend another 3 months getting back to where I was. I know it's wrong, but would I get in trouble?

[Torik]

If you want to get technical, you have multiple instances of fraud and wire fraud here. You gifted your friend account rights that did not belong to you. He sold the site account rights that did not belong to him. The site sold the other player (let's call him the sucker) account rights that did not belong to it. By now recovering the account you finalize the frauds.

You will probably get away with it and the sucker at the end will lose the money he paid but then I would not lose any sleep if your account gets banned.

[drewid]

I think its absolutely ridiculous for you to even ask this. Are you looking for people to ease your conscience?
To sit there and say i know its wrong, but only be concerned about getting your self in trouble, is pretty pathetic.
I feel sorry for the fool that bought the account, who knows why people do this, but hopefully he is smart enough to fight it and get the account perma banned.

[Trakamoocow]

Nice troll thread A+++ would read again.

[prion]

could be a moot point, the account may already be banned.

or stealing it back may get it banned.

And it's not $90, it's 40. Then in several months when you hit 70 and you are done doing dailies to stack up on gold then the price has come down and the xpac will be 20-30. Total 60-70 but not 90.

You do realize that people can track you down over the internet? We're only anonymous as long as people choose not to care who we really are.

[Renata]

Translation:

"I lent my account to a friend illegitimately. He sold it illegitimately and someone bought it illegitimately, so is it okay to steal it?"

If you can't figure that one out on your own, I pity you.

...Ren

[Redhole]

It's your account and you have every right to claim it back using the secret answer. Your only offense was to lend the account to a friend, and this sort of thing happens all the time. The worst that could happen is the account gets banned, but you'd be no worse off.

It's the friend who sold the account and the guy who bought it that are to blame.

[surodat]

If you're not concerned about the morality of what you're doing then just say that you quit Wow a while ago, and act all dumb and innocent to any inquiries about other people using the account.

Your 'friend' hacked your account, stole it and sold it, and you know nothing about it. Proceed as normal.

And every time you play you will continually have feelings of shame and self-loathing.

But, hey, if you can live with yourself.

[semiiramiis]

A couple months ago I let a friend of mine use my account because I wasn't gonna play anymore and he sold it. I want to get back in to WoW and I could get the account back using the secret answer, but would I get in trouble for this? Apparently he sold it to a site and the site sold it to another person so would taking it back get me in trouble?


One point in this I'm a little confused about. You say "Let a friend use..." And the question is... who was paying for the account during this time period? (Also, I'd like to point out, like any other account, access to a WoW account shows you things you probably don't want your 'friends' to have access to, like credit card billing information, etc, and since your account was sold, so was...this information.)

That question having been asked, your erstwhile account has probably been flagged anyway. You could look it up on the armory and it might show up, degree of relevance noted gives you some measure of the last time it was played. If it's active (which I doubt) then you'd have to go through blizzard to get it back. This also brings the possibly of blizzard taking a long hard look at what has happened to this account. If this account was flagged, so probably is your billing information, which means creating another account may be an issue. All in all, this is why I say this is a bad idea.

[Twoflower]

It's your account and you have every right to claim it back using the secret answer.

a : he gave it away as a gift. it is NOT his acount any more.

b : the next person sold it, so it aint his acount any more, either.

your statement does not hold ground moraly or legaly.

[Dakiter]

a : he gave it away as a gift. it is NOT his acount any more.

b : the next person sold it, so it aint his acount any more, either.

your statement does not hold ground moraly or legaly.

I personally dont believe the whole "my friend sold my account" thing but since these are the facts that were provided to us I have to say none of it matters. It is not allowed to share accounts and the moment he gave it away he broke the rules.

Can he take his account back? Yes. But will he ultimately lose the account? Yes. The person who bought the account will report it as being hacked. I wouldnt be surprised if the guy who bought it reports it as being hacked. Even if he never gets the account back he will screw whoever tried to take it. In his mind he is looking at it as the person going back on the deal that allowed the account to come into his hands.

Also unless your ready to pay for server transfers or name changes, have fun on those characters where you will probably get black balled as hacker.

If you want to play, start a new account and work your way back. Look at it this way, you will have another account you can sell when you get tired this time.

[mesonm]

a : he gave it away as a gift. it is NOT his acount any more.

b : the next person sold it, so it aint his acount any more, either.

your statement does not hold ground moraly or legaly.

1. He said he allowed his friend to use it...He did NOT EVER say he gave it away.

Your statement isn't based in the facts as I read them...

What did I miss?

[Twoflower]

1. He said he allowed his friend to use it...He did NOT EVER say he gave it away.

true, i was imagining things -.-



now that i have this "new" piece of information ( doh -.- ) i start to wonder. If everything is true ( i dont believe it to be, but what do i know ) he would moraly have the right to try and get it back. At least from my point of view. If his "friend" sold it whibout asking him, his friend sold something which does not belong to him, therefore he had no right to sell it in the first place.

Yes, i know, you are not allowed to trade accounts anyway. Legaly the case is clear. But moraly i am not so sure any more.

[Super Sneaky Steve]

Yeah the OP sounds like a great guy to have to play this game with. Maybe he was the shammy ninja who needed on the druid staff last night.

[Superspam]

What's to say the email address, passwords, secret questions weren't changed since the account changed hands making it so the OP has to deal directly with Blizz and claim it was hacked in order to get it back?

[Derpile]

how are you sure this person hasn't changed the answer? I know I would. Also, DON'T BE AN IDIOT AND GIVEAWAY ACCOUNTS! Now your friend has some cash, the site has some cash, the new account holder will probably have changed the secret answer so you can't get it, and now your screwed. nothing good comes from giving away accounts

[odinsnephew]

dont quote fishy links, or we have to edit your post aswell. you surely know this by now. Also, stop the insulting. Even towards goldspammers. They are human too. This is not the official forum. I deleted your post, greetings, Twoflower.

[Kodonn]

A couple months ago I let a friend of mine use my account because I wasn't gonna play anymore and he sold it. I want to get back in to WoW and I could get the account back using the secret answer, but would I get in trouble for this? Apparently he sold it to a site and the site sold it to another person so would taking it back get me in trouble?

Wow, I am surprised at all of you. :shocked:

Obviously the OP is the person who bought the account from the site that bought it from the "friend" who originally "borrowed" the account from the original owner. The original owner having decided to reclaim his/her account has now left the OP with nothing and he is trying to determine if there is any kind of revenge he can take. (i.e. Can he get the original owner "in trouble"?) :ponder:

How come everybody missed that ? :laughing: :laughing:

[Dhoum]

Odin you n00b, don't quote scammer links! :duh:

ETA: Just re-read that and it comes across as more hostile than intended ... please imagine the above is said with a big, cheesy grin.

[Renata]

Can we all just agree that it's fishy as hell and leave it at that?

...Ren

[odinsnephew]

Odin you n00b, don't quote scammer links! :duh:

I know. I failed sorry :(

Edit, No worries Dhoum. I was just angry at the damn scammer :lipsrsealed:

[HopeAdvocateElite]

After reading the OP, I'm very skeptical to the situation. IMO, He sold the account to a site, the site sold it to another guy, and he took the account back. Now he wants to know if he's gonna have the cops banging on his door.

What would happen to him in that situation (because I think that is what really happened). Would he be charged with fraud? Or is that even viable considering Blizzard owned the account the entire time and they were just trading information?

[surodat]

After reading the OP, I'm very skeptical to the situation. IMO, He sold the account to a site, the site sold it to another guy, and he took the account back. Now he wants to know if he's gonna have the cops banging on his door.

What would happen to him in that situation (because I think that is what really happened). Would he be charged with fraud? Or is that even viable considering Blizzard owned the account the entire time and they were just trading information?

^
Why OP, you wily devil, that was quite a quickchange. That new hat suits you well.

[Kodonn]

After reading the OP, I'm very skeptical to the situation. IMO, He sold the account to a site, the site sold it to another guy, and he took the account back. Now he wants to know if he's gonna have the cops banging on his door.

What would happen to him in that situation (because I think that is what really happened). Would he be charged with fraud? Or is that even viable considering Blizzard owned the account the entire time and they were just trading information?

Ok OP or Hope or whatever you change your name and story to. :shocked:
I think this is where you stand.

One legal definition of fraud IS "selling something that you don't own".
So yes, the site you sold your account to could press charges if they wanted to. However, it would have to be based on the transaction agreement you made with them, because THEY, like YOU, know that Blizzard is the real owner of the account. So they would have to base it on the fact that you agreed to provide certain "illicit" information and they agreed to compensate you for that information.

You could relate this to a drug buyer calling the police because his drug dealer took his money and then took the drugs back. It was an illegal exchange in the first place so more than likely they would laugh at it and bust them both.

In addition, Blizzard could press charges if they really wanted to. You had a binding agreement with them and then you sold something that belongs to them. Technically they could come after you for that, but in reality it's not worth their time to pursue it in court. What they will most likely do instead (once they DO find out...and they will) is to ban your account and probably any other accounts you try to create (if there is anything that remotely ties it to you, like IP, CC info, address, etc.)

[Trakamoocow]

You seem pretty dumb, mr op and now your next character.

With that in mind, please proceed to reclaim "your" account so they can ban you permanently. This will alleviate many problems, including you continuing to post here. tia.