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TheDreamer
22-01-2009, 04:42 AM
I just noticed that one of the cooking daily quests may have changed.
Today's was The Legerdemain one where (I think) you had to get a jug of wine, and some wine glasses. Only now - skip the glasses, you cook 4 of the northern stew.
Or did it always have that 4 northern stew in it? lol -
prion
22-01-2009, 04:45 AM
it looks like they put some kind of fix on the potions cooldown bug but i didn't see it in the patch notes.
mesonm
22-01-2009, 06:14 AM
I just noticed that one of the cooking daily quests may have changed.
Today's was The Legerdemain one where (I think) you had to get a jug of wine, and some wine glasses. Only now - skip the glasses, you cook 4 of the northern stew.
Or did it always have that 4 northern stew in it? lol -
You have two different quests mixed, I think.
One, you got a jug of wine and 12 northern stew....that one quest is now FOUR stew, and the jug of wine...so, the change is from twelve to four stew....and this change is in the patch notes.
A second different quest has you get wine glasses and a cooked item of some sort. This second quest isn't changed, so far as I know.
The very very nice Archon Deathcharger Icon was replaced by the Warlock epic mount icon when you are mounted.
/fail :(
Mollymog
22-01-2009, 09:57 AM
The very very nice Archon Deathcharger Icon was replaced by the Warlock epic mount icon when you are mounted.
/fail :(
Yes, I noticed that and wondered why on earth they bothered.
zerlikjr
22-01-2009, 03:10 PM
Several other icons changed. The wintergrasp one where you can get the stones, the merchant charm is not an unlit candle.
FYI the collect 1/2 full wine classes the other item is cheese from the cheese shop across from the other inn.
zerlikjr
22-01-2009, 03:15 PM
I did not see this in the patch notes, but there is a new, <New to me at least> repeatable turn in for Hodir rep. 10 Relics of Uldar gives 275 rep. I may have been mistaken but I was under the impression that these were soulbound, but they currently are not. On Alliance Antonidas they are selling for about 4g each.
This may have been there all along and I was just being a ditz, but I first noticed it after the patch.
Z.
semiiramiis
22-01-2009, 03:29 PM
The very very nice Archon Deathcharger Icon was replaced by the Warlock epic mount icon when you are mounted.
/fail :(
The icons for my Acherus Deathcharger and Winged Mount of the Ebon Blade are backwards now. It's really, really annoying. I keep hitting the correct icon in Azeroth, and getting the "You cannot use this mount here" warning.
Renata
22-01-2009, 03:36 PM
A second different quest has you get wine glasses and a cooked item of some sort. This second quest isn't changed, so far as I know.
Actually, that's not quite right either.
"Wine and Cheese Platter" is is 6 Half Full Dalaran Wine Glasses and Aged Dalaran Limburger. The limburger is not cooked; it's also fetched from the wine shop.
But you're right; I don't think that one is changed.
The change to "Convention at the Legerdemain" is great (reduction of 12 stews to 4) because it brings it in line with the amount of farmed items from the other quests. Plus, if you're doing the cooking quests on multiple characters -- well, let's just say I did it once for each for the achievement, but tended to skip that one when it appeared.
...Ren
Eliandor
22-01-2009, 04:16 PM
I did not see this in the patch notes, but there is a new, <New to me at least> repeatable turn in for Hodir rep. 10 Relics of Uldar gives 275 rep. I may have been mistaken but I was under the impression that these were soulbound, but they currently are not. On Alliance Antonidas they are selling for about 4g each.
This may have been there all along and I was just being a ditz, but I first noticed it after the patch.
Z.
This is new. I read about it elsewhere (than the patch notes, I likely read it rumored here in some thread).
10 relics = 250 rep = confirmed
Mollymog
22-01-2009, 05:25 PM
Yesterday when I logged on there was a note saying that for now you could not have a mount belonging to a race other than your own. There was also one saying that for the time being you could only create a Death Knight on a realm in which you already had a level 55 chaaracter. I see that today the mount note is gone, but the Death Knight one is still there.
Gorny
22-01-2009, 05:32 PM
I noticed the same...could not get another race's mount.
On DK's I think they fixed that, as a friend of ming created a DK on my server and he has no toons at or higher than 55 on my server.
Mollymog
22-01-2009, 09:32 PM
I noticed the same...could not get another race's mount.
On DK's I think they fixed that, as a friend of ming created a DK on my server and he has no toons at or higher than 55 on my server.
Yes, both notes are gone as of this evening.
TheDreamer
23-01-2009, 01:51 AM
You have two different quests mixed, I think.
One, you got a jug of wine and 12 northern stew....that one quest is now FOUR stew, and the jug of wine...so, the change is from twelve to four stew....and this change is in the patch notes.
A second different quest has you get wine glasses and a cooked item of some sort. This second quest isn't changed, so far as I know.
well thanks for setting me straight!
semiiramiis
23-01-2009, 01:54 AM
Yes, both notes are gone as of this evening.
Odd. They're both still up on my login.
teacake
23-01-2009, 02:07 AM
You still need to be exalted to get another mount, the mount change applies to Kodos and Mechanostriders which had racial limitations. Now anyone can ride them, if exalted.
You can now create a DK on any realm as long as you have one 55 somewhere.. did it myself.
And here's an unannounced change that would have pissed off some twinks: Enti's Quenched Sword is now a level 70 item!! Previously level 1. Pretty bad if you just paid a few hundred gold for it. Worth nothing now.
elsegundo
23-01-2009, 02:19 AM
Yesterday when I logged on there was a note saying that for now you could not have a mount belonging to a race other than your own. There was also one saying that for the time being you could only create a Death Knight on a realm in which you already had a level 55 chaaracter. I see that today the mount note is gone, but the Death Knight one is still there.
you still cant get other racial mounts unless you're exalted.
but you can make dks even with the note. i've made four.
Mollymog
23-01-2009, 09:59 AM
Odd. They're both still up on my login.
Different realms, maybe? I like the mount 'thing'. My partner is delighted that the Awful Elek can be gone and replaced with something that looks a bit better.
Dhoum
23-01-2009, 02:25 PM
My partner is delighted that the Awful Elek can be gone and replaced with something that looks a bit better.
Unless your partner specifically wanted a mechanostrider then nothing has changed. The only alterations are the racial size limitations on mounts. Your partner will still need to reach Exalted with another Alliance/Outland/Northrend faction in order to buy a different racial mount.
Marlous
23-01-2009, 03:47 PM
I've also noticed a few changes that I didn't see in the patch notes, like as mentioned the changed icons for the Wintergrasp buff and such. Also, the required materials for Northrend Alchemy Research no longer needs Tiger Lily and 2 less Goldclover and Adder's Tongue - the patch notes only mention the reduced cooldown, but not a reduced material cost as well.
Also, to whomever said that the reduced Northern Stew needed for "Convention at the Legerdemain" was confirmed, it's not - at least not on the official site's patch notes. Nonetheless, I really love the adaptation - I cringed every time I'd see that daily coming up, as I never have a large stock of Chilled Meat and didn't fancy the thought of having to spend 12 of those on 1 lousy daily.
And another thing that has changed (much to my annoyance) is that when you open a few clams in a row, the meat you get from them no longer stacks. Now I have to stop opening clams to stack them all manually, or they'll clog up my inventory. Yay, clams. -.-
mesonm
23-01-2009, 04:11 PM
10 relics = 250 rep = confirmed
where is the turn-in location?
Davemetalhead
23-01-2009, 04:37 PM
And another thing that has changed (much to my annoyance) is that when you open a few clams in a row, the meat you get from them no longer stacks. Now I have to stop opening clams to stack them all manually, or they'll clog up my inventory. Yay, clams. -.-
It's been like that for quite a while now - the unopened clams stack automatically, but the meat doesn't.
Jakers
23-01-2009, 04:43 PM
Also, to whomever said that the reduced Northern Stew needed for "Convention at the Legerdemain" was confirmed, it's not - at least not on the official site's patch notes. Nonetheless, I really love the adaptation - I cringed every time I'd see that daily coming up, as I never have a large stock of Chilled Meat and didn't fancy the thought of having to spend 12 of those on 1 lousy daily.
The only good thing about this daily was that (I believe) you were awarded 2 cooking awards for it rather than 1. Does anyone who did it know if you still get the 2 awards even with the lowered amount required for the Northern Stews?
raymore
23-01-2009, 04:54 PM
On my dk, the icon for my mount changed. On my druid the moonfire animation changed and I could swear that my regrowth doesn't do as much healing. I'll have to test that one though to be sure.
zerlikjr
23-01-2009, 05:00 PM
You turn in relics at the Hodir Quartermaster. I have been getting 275 rep not the 250 mentioned here. I am 6k into revered.
I like what they did with the blizzard animation. General look of everything is much cleaner. The trees and such are much less jaggy.
Z.
Kodonn
23-01-2009, 05:19 PM
My tailor was able to make 8 (x2 for the spec) Primal Mooncloth in a row last night (until I ran out of primals :cry:)....NO Cooldown. :thumbsup:
I'm hoping this was a planned but undocumented change and not just an unintended glitch.
WatcherZero
23-01-2009, 05:23 PM
You turn in relics at the Hodir Quartermaster. I have been getting 275 rep not the 250 mentioned here. I am 6k into revered.
I like what they did with the blizzard animation. General look of everything is much cleaner. The trees and such are much less jaggy.
Z.
Thats because your Human, learn your racials!
WatcherZero
23-01-2009, 05:24 PM
My tailor was able to make 8 (x2 for the spec) Primal Mooncloth in a row last night (until I ran out of primals :cry:)....NO Cooldown. :thumbsup:
I'm hoping this was a planned but undocumented change and not just an unintended glitch.
They removed the CD on the origional primal cloths, but its a bug if its gone on the new primals.
Mollymog
23-01-2009, 05:51 PM
Unless your partner specifically wanted a mechanostrider then nothing has changed. The only alterations are the racial size limitations on mounts. Your partner will still need to reach Exalted with another Alliance/Outland/Northrend faction in order to buy a different racial mount.
Funny, I could have sworn the patch notes said (I sat reading them while the patch took ages to update) any race any mount. Oh, well......
elsegundo
23-01-2009, 06:43 PM
my preserved holly icon changed!!! =D
and Mollymog, the change to mounts goes like this. before the patch, races like night elves and humans were considered "too big" to ride mechanostriders. races like taurens were considered too big to ride raptors and chickens. but for some reason, they can ride black war raptors. i guess lore-wise, this was a good limitation. however lately, i've seen taurens riding on brewfest rams and gnomes on kodos, so why not just lift this restriction for all classes? surely they did. however, you still need to be exalted with the faction to buy their mount, but at least a tauren who is exalted with the darkspears can buy their raptors. this helps with the 100 mount acheivements too. =]
prion
26-01-2009, 01:47 AM
they reduced the amount of gold given by SSO dailies i'm pretty irritated
they reduced the amount of gold given by SSO dailies i'm pretty irritated
Did you have a LK account?
The high gold was due to exp being converted to gold at 70 (max level cap), now that 80 is the new cap, gold for those quests returned to 'normal'.
prion
26-01-2009, 02:00 AM
no, my cap is still 70, it definitely changed after the recent patch. I used to get 7-10 gold from each daily and now I'm only getting 5-7.
beats me why they changed it then if that's the case.
Gold comes easily with the new expansion *shrugs*
Cattleya
26-01-2009, 02:23 AM
The only good thing about this daily was that (I believe) you were awarded 2 cooking awards for it rather than 1. Does anyone who did it know if you still get the 2 awards even with the lowered amount required for the Northern Stews?
Nah, the Convention quest never gave you 2 awards, it's the Rhino dog quest that gives two. (I haven't seen that one since the patch, so I don't know if it has changed.)
waflob
26-01-2009, 01:35 PM
And here's an unannounced change that would have pissed off some twinks: Enti's Quenched Sword is now a level 70 item!! Previously level 1. Pretty bad if you just paid a few hundred gold for it. Worth nothing now.
Might annoy a few twinks, but makes the other 99.99% of the population happy.
Also, I did read the notes and didn't see anything about the hungry nether ray quest being fixed, but it now works again
DelBoy
MrBCorp
26-01-2009, 04:07 PM
I just noticed they changed Constrictor Grass from a once useful, green-named herb to a useless gray item.
prion
26-01-2009, 05:37 PM
the length of this thread brings up a question for me. Why are the patch notes always so incomplete? It makes me wonder if there are people just changing stuff without authorization and hoping the people in charge don't notice.
surodat
26-01-2009, 06:20 PM
I don't know if changing the level of a grey item, and removing a millable but useless plant warrant a place in the patch notes.
The patch notes are already long enough without adding stuff like that.
elsegundo
26-01-2009, 06:38 PM
the length of this thread brings up a question for me. Why are the patch notes always so incomplete? It makes me wonder if there are people just changing stuff without authorization and hoping the people in charge don't notice.
i think its more like... lets make all these changes but hey, we have 30 pages worth of changes, should we even post them all? makes no sense to, ok lets just post the ones we think are pretty important. yea. makes total sense to me.
Kodonn
26-01-2009, 07:23 PM
the length of this thread brings up a question for me. Why are the patch notes always so incomplete? It makes me wonder if there are people just changing stuff without authorization and hoping the people in charge don't notice.
If they listed everything it would have to be called the "Patch Encyclopedia", the "Patch Almanac" or something similar. "Notes" means we just get the highlights.
prion
26-01-2009, 08:44 PM
Someone had to sit down and decide to put that item in the game and decide how it interacted with other stuff. Then someone had to sit down and decide to UNDO all that. That makes me go ....?......
mesonm
26-01-2009, 09:21 PM
Did you have a LK account?
The high gold was due to exp being converted to gold at 70 (max level cap), now that 80 is the new cap, gold for those quests returned to 'normal'.
I believe we are on the same page...
It actually has nothing to do with the quest....It has to do with the XP being awarded to non-capped people in lieu of the "extra" gold you received if you were capped.
In any case, I am well above 10k gold, and have very few things in the game that are worth spending gold on...Have two epic flyers, etc. So, gold isn't that hard to come by normally.
<sigh>
elsegundo
26-01-2009, 09:21 PM
but whatever they did (which is all speculation to us anyway), everything seem to work. so i dont question their methods. they've kept a game going for four years. i dont have much doubt about their practices.
and prion, they're just sneakily trying to get you to buy lich king. lol. but hey, even at 70, you can make a lot of money farming stuff from azeroth, not so much outland stuff (yet), but try mining. haha. i leveled a DK to 60, then trained her herbs and mining on a new server. made 2k and my herbs is at 350, and my mining is at 320 now. i still have other junk to sell.
Marlous
27-01-2009, 12:10 AM
I just went to farm some Fire Leaf, and I found that they've done 2 things: 1) they removed the use function where you'd get a dps buff but become realy vulnerable, and 2) they removed the Fire Seed, the other item you could get from the Firethorn nodes, as they would serve no other function in-game with the buff/debuff function removed.
I have to agree that it's not really feasible to list every single thing they change, but it sometimes seems like they do list some really useless-seeming ones that I don't give a rat's arse about.
On another note, something they did not do in this patch is fix that bloody vehicle bug.. every so often I mount a vehicle and I can't use any of the functions on the hotbar, and only logging out and back in seems to solve it. Really annoying when you're fighting the last boss in Oculus, for instance.. but even more annoying when you're donig the Drakkenryd quest and can't grab an ornament to reach solid ground before you log (and you have to log out while on that drake, so you'll plummet to death the moment you log back in /sigh).
Mazhulsage
27-01-2009, 12:01 PM
I hear the Netherdrake is easier to get.
prion
27-01-2009, 05:20 PM
heh, not if you can't make any money to train epic flying
PlayThemAll
27-01-2009, 07:05 PM
I hear the Netherdrake is easier to get.
Definitely, since the last patch fel glands and relics drop off of every kill (of the appropriate mob) rather then randomly. Makes the quests go by much faster.
I've also noticed in increased drop rate of crystals. I'm only a about 6K from Exalted now and have enough ore and crystals banked so that I don't have to grind for them any more.
Also been getting 4+ egg turn ins a day.
I don't know if its just because there are few people doing these quests or what but it seems very easy now.
Cerberus
28-01-2009, 04:44 AM
Definitely, since the last patch fel glands and relics drop off of every kill (of the appropriate mob) rather then randomly. Makes the quests go by much faster.
I've also noticed in increased drop rate of crystals. I'm only a about 6K from Exalted now and have enough ore and crystals banked so that I don't have to grind for them any more.
Also been getting 4+ egg turn ins a day.
I don't know if its just because there are few people doing these quests or what but it seems very easy now.
Even if the droprate on the glands has been increased to 100%, you will find at least one egg in the time it takes to completet that silly quest ;) More eggs probably just has to do with less people around. They respawn at a random location after 45 mins-1hr. I've seen 6 or possibly 7 up at the same time so keep looking :)
As far unconfirmed changes I know moonfire has a new animation at least and it looks great. Blizzard also got a new animation, but not flamestrike that actually needed one..
prion
28-01-2009, 09:07 AM
Inscription-created tomes no longer require you to have inscription!!!!!!!
they've added level requirements instead.
Wintrow
28-01-2009, 10:00 AM
I THOUGHT my moonfire looked different. It's nice, with an actual moon shooting down beams and stuff. A bit like the eclipse proc-buffs.
Mazhulsage
28-01-2009, 11:29 PM
I don't care if I don't have the gold for the epic mount yet, once I'm level 80 (Yes, a long time from now) on my DK I'm going to get that Netherdrake.
elsegundo
29-01-2009, 01:21 AM
I THOUGHT my moonfire looked different. It's nice, with an actual moon shooting down beams and stuff. A bit like the eclipse proc-buffs.
moonfire looks so awesome i spam it now. i dont care if there's a dot. screw the dot, gimme cool animation!
PlayThemAll
29-01-2009, 02:49 PM
moonfire looks so awesome i spam it now. i dont care if there's a dot. screw the dot, gimme cool animation!
Thats signature material right there.
Shellar
30-01-2009, 06:42 PM
Sartharion now has a 15-minute hard berserk timer.
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