OT: Interested in a Forum Game?

[Gorny]

If it's ok with Maticus?

Forum Assassin.

Ruleset:

Post if you wish to play, and be sure to read the following rules for reference:

1) You may only kill your target or your assassin if you can figure out who he is. If you guess at your assassin and guess wrong the kill attempt will fail and you will be disqualified.
Conceptualization: Your target is the person whom the voices in your head most want dead and whom you have the best chance of killing in secrecy. Likewise, your assassin is assumed to have a chance to get you alone and so, if you're good enough, you can kill him instead of the other way around. If you try to kill anyone else you miss and are locked up as a madman.

2) You make a kill by quoting your target's post and appending the kill phrase "In the end there can be only one!" Without the quote marks. Once you have made a kill attempt immediately post a link to the attempt in the death announcement thread. A coordinator will confirm your kill. If it is successful you will be PMed a new target. If it is not, your target will know who you are and may kill you when he has the opportunity. A kill attempt fails if: the kill phrase is incorrectly reproduced, the quoted portion of the post has been altered, there is an edit tag on the kill post, or there is anything in the kill post other than the kill phrase and the quoted post, or if there is another post between your kill attempt post and the post being quoted in the kill attempt. Attempting to kill someone on a kill attempt of theirs is not allowed, so no killing on kill posts.

3) If you put the phrase "booby trap" in the first post of a thread you created and your target posts in that thread then he is dead. Post a link to the thread in the deaths announcement thread and explain that your target fell to a booby trap. For simplicity's sake booby traps are assumed to require regular maintenance and so do not outlive their maker.
Conceptualiztion: You've set a trap in some out of the way place for your target. If he's foolish enough to walk into it it will certainly prove fatal. Booby traps created for one target do not work against a new target. I.E. If you are assigned someone as a target and you manage to kill them, your booby trap meant for tat person will be ineffective against a newly assigned target.

4) If you include the phrase "poison dagger" in a post and your assassin subsequently tries to kill you by quoting that post but neglects to edit out the poison dagger then your assassin dies rather than you. This is the only case in which editing your target's post is allowed, and then you may only edit out the poison dagger.
Conceptualization: You're a paranoid bastard so you're always ready for an attack. If the guy who's after you fails to sneak properly you'll stab him in the back in a heart beat.

5) The special tags ("booby trap" and "poison dagger") must appear in the body of your post, must be in correct English and must be consecutive. Poison dagger must be detectable when your post is quoted in order to be effective. The tags may be capitalized as needed, but no other alteration is permitted. They may not appear in a signature. Signatures occuring naturally do not count as part of a post as far as quoting or booby traps and poison daggers are concerned.

6) The game is restricted to one forum.

7) The Death Announcements thread, the Assassins Discussion thread, and any stickied OT Threads are holy ground. Kill attempts in these threads fail automatically.

8) You must have three posts in any given 24 hour period (three posts total for the entire weekend) or you will be disqualified. This means three dangerous posts; in the forum the game is played but not in one of the safe threads. If you suspect your target is not posting, bring it to the attention of the coordinators.
Conceptualization: If you don't post enough that's a sign that the stress has gotten to you and the nice men in white coats will come to pick you up.

9) The game begins as of the timestamp on the Death Announcements thread. Posts made before that time cannot be targeted and cannot carry any of the special tags. Players will receive their first targets slightly before the Death Announcements thread goes up via PM and should be careful not to jump the gun.

10) No using the search feature. Get out there and post.

11) The winner shall be the first player to win. There can be only one.

12) Trust no one. Your best friend might just turn around and kill you.

13) - This is limited to one forum only.


The Lord have mecry on your souls!

[Your Average WoW Player]

I don't think I get it.

Can you post a sample?

P.S: Sounds cool though. Maybe we can get you back to Mod status to moderate this.

[Gorny]

You might get killed reading the sample.

We don't have guest viewing turned on currently on the DII boards, so you should be able to read the following thread and its links without a problem.

We're having a discussion about playing it again over there, post #10 points out some past threads in the game and how it went:

BTW, anyone who wants to play over there is welcome to come join us :evil:

Link:

http://forums.diii.net/showthread.php?t=712072

[Your Average WoW Player]

I *think* I get it...
Let me see if I can regurgitate various examples back to you:
Maticus is targeting Rush.

Scenario 1:
Rush posts a post:
Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, WoW related stuff, blah blah blah, worldofwar.net related stuff.

Maticus comes along:
Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, WoW related stuff, blah blah blah, worldofwar.net related stuff.

In the end, there can only be one!

Result: Maticus pwns Rush, causing him to drop the flag in Maticus's flagroom, resulting in Maticus getting an HK and Rush having to wait for the Spirit Guide back at his GY.

Scenario 2:
Rush posts a post:
Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, WoW related stuff, blah blah blah, worldofwar.net related stuff. Rogues put POISON on their DAGGERS, yadda yadda blah blah.

Maticus comes along:
Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, WoW related stuff, blah blah blah, worldofwar.net related stuff. Rogues put POISON on their DAGGERS, yadda yadda blah blah.

In the end, there can only be one!

Result: Kill failed, Rush brought a stealthy rogue this time resulting in Rush having a free run back to his flag room with Maticus's flag. Maticus waits at the Spirit Guide having been pwned by the rogue.

Scenario 3:
Rush posts a post:
Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, WoW related stuff, blah blah blah, worldofwar.net related stuff. Rogues put POISON on their DAGGERS, yadda yadda blah blah.

Maticus comes along:
Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, WoW related stuff, blah blah blah, worldofwar.net related stuff.

In the end, there can only be one!

Result: Maticus pwned Rush's rogue causing Maticus and Rush to flee.

Scenario 4:
Maticus posts a post:
Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, WoW related stuff, blah blah blah, worldofwar.net related stuff. Blah blah Hunters put down Booby traps which cause bad things to happen.

Rush comes along:
Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, WoW related stuff, blah blah blah, worldofwar.net related stuff. Blah blah Hunters put down Booby traps which cause bad things to happen.

Blah blah blah.

Result: Maticus had her raid lying in ambush. Rush was thoroughly owned.

Scenario 5:
Maticus posts a post:
Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, WoW related stuff, blah blah blah, worldofwar.net related stuff. Blah blah Hunters put down Booby traps which cause bad things to happen.

Rush comes along:
Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, WoW related stuff, blah blah blah, worldofwar.net related stuff.

Blah blah blah.

Result: Rush saw Maticus's raid (a priest stepped out of line). Rush flees.

[Gorny]

>.>
<.<

^.^

Ok...let me read through that.

*4 hours pass*

Scenario 1: Maticus kills Rush.

Scenario 2: Rush dies from Maticus ambush. Reason: The Poison Dagger in Rush's post is not legal. Correct use of Poison Dagger is "Poison Dagger" without quotes regardless of capital letters, there must not be anything between the words poison and dagger or it's not legal. Also Poison Daggers is not legal and should not be edited.

Scenario 3: Maticus kills Rush as no legal poison dagger was in Rush's post.

Scenario 4: Tricky one. Booby Trap (not booby traps) must always be in the post that starts a thread to be effective, if they are in another post in a thread...they are useless. Also a valid booby trap will only kill one person. That person is your target, and they only work of your target posts in a thread that you but a booby trap into the first post. Booby traps also may not outlive their creator and only work on one target. Meanin gtraps for old targets are useless against a new victim of yours.

Scenario 5: Rush is dead. Booby traps cannot be edited for anyreason, id the trap was meant for him and in the first post and he want and posts...he dies. Edit or no edit.

[Your Average WoW Player]

Ok. I think I've got it.

Just a few more questions. Is figuring out who is targeting you and who you target a bit of detective work, and the actual "line up" is known by a select group of people, who are not participating?

[Gorny]

Ok. I think I've got it.

Just a few more questions. Is figuring out who is targeting you and who you target a bit of detective work, and the actual "line up" is known by a select group of people, who are not participating?

Targets get assigned via PM before the game starts. People playing will know who they have to kill before the game starts. But no one will know who is out to kill them. The actual "line up" as it is, is only known to whatever person or people that are running the game.

So lets say I run this. You, Maticus and Snowball are among the players. I assign your targets before the game starts. Now you all who you are after but you do not kno who is after you. So it gets to the point of trusting no one.

I assign you your first target: Maticus. I assign Maticus her first target: Pergolesi. I assign Elsegundo his first target: Snowball. I assign Snowball his first target: you. I assign Pergolesi his target: Elsegundo.

The Death Announcements thread goes up, game starts.

Pergolesi slips up and posts normally. Maticus sees it and quoted him and adds the kill phrase before someone else can post after Pergolesi and kills him. Maticus draws first blood. Pergolesi was after Elsegundo but because Perg is now dead, Else is safe for the moment and may post safely. The catch is that Else has no idea of who is after him so he does not know he is safe nor will he be told so...so Else goes on playing as if domeone is after him.

Maticus posts in a thread and you see it and go for the kill. In the time it took for you to post, someone else posted after Maticus and because there are one or more posts between your kill and the post of Maticus's that you are acting on, your attempt fails. Now Maticus knows you are her assassin and she will try to kill you before you can kill her.

Ok down to you. After the above, you start a thread and in the first post put in a booby trap. If Maticus posts in this thread she dies. Now lets assume Maticus died for some reason and you are still alive and are assigned a new target...the trap in this thread that was meat for Maticus will be useless against your new target. Also if Maticus is still alive and you die...the trap goes with you and Maticus can safely post in the thread.

If I assign targets and someone attempts a kill before the Death Announcements goes up, then the kill is not valid and your target can then try to kill you when the game starts.

On a related note where holy ground is concerned, if you try to kill someone in a holy ground thread, it fails...and now they know you are after them and they cab kill you.

Lastly if you think smeone is trying to kill you and you try to kill that person...and you are wrong....you die.

[surodat]

Can you fake an attempt? Deliberately post a kill attempt after another response has been posted?

(This reminds me of Street Wars (http://www.moustachecommander.com/toronto2007.php))

[Gorny]

Can you fake an attempt? Deliberately post a kill attempt after another response has been posted?

(This reminds me of Street Wars (http://www.moustachecommander.com/toronto2007.php))

I wouldn't. If it's against someone who realy is your target then what you just did is to let that person know you are after them. Now you end up with two people trying to kill you: your assassin and your own target. Ut I understand the point of it...we've had things like this happen...especially towards the end of the game. Call it nerves and itchy trigger fingers.

This game is all about treachery, paranoia and trying to outsmart everyone else. Many people tend to PM the person running the game for rule clarifications while playing...especially to see if something can be valid in game or not.

Then you get...um well. *silence*

[surodat]

No, I mean fake a kill attempt against someone you're not trying to kill - causing them to try to kill you and then die themselves.

[Gorny]

Hmmm...

I think rule one takes care of that. You'll end up being locked away as a madman.

You are only supposed to kill yor target (or assassin) if you can figure out who they are. So if you try to kill someone that is not your target and who isn't your assassin...you get DQ'd.

[surodat]

:D

But isn't that sort of just like pulling out a dagger behind someone then waiting until they turn around and using it to clean your nails?

Psychological warfare!

[Gorny]

Ok ... you try it against Your Average WoW Player.

[surodat]

I *think* I get it...
Let me see if I can regurgitate various examples back to you:
Maticus is targeting Rush.

Scenario 1:
Rush posts a post:


Maticus comes along:


Result: Maticus pwns Rush, causing him to drop the flag in Maticus's flagroom, resulting in Maticus getting an HK and Rush having to wait for the Spirit Guide back at his GY.

Scenario 2:
Rush posts a post:


Maticus comes along:


Result: Kill failed, Rush brought a stealthy rogue this time resulting in Rush having a free run back to his flag room with Maticus's flag. Maticus waits at the Spirit Guide having been pwned by the rogue.

Scenario 3:
Rush posts a post:


Maticus comes along:


Result: Maticus pwned Rush's rogue causing Maticus and Rush to flee.

Scenario 4:
Maticus posts a post:


Rush comes along:


Result: Maticus had her raid lying in ambush. Rush was thoroughly owned.

Scenario 5:
Maticus posts a post:


Rush comes along:


Result: Rush saw Maticus's raid (a priest stepped out of line). Rush flees.

In the end, there can only be one!

[Superspam]

A few questions:

Being restricted to one forum, do you mean wow.net and not diii.net, or do you mean the Community Discussion forum and not, say, the Raiding forum?

Would Surodat's kill be legal? The way I read the rules, your kill post has to directly follow a post by your target. Am I way off?

When I was in high school the senior class played this every year (until some stupid people got arrested). If this gets going count me in!

[surodat]

My post has confused YAWP! Sowing chaos and confusion among my enemies! Though would have left me open to attack from my true enemy.

[Gorny]

Restricted to one forum, this one (Community Discussion) and not any other on this site. Also not on Diii.net. The games made to be played in a single forum unless the rules were changed for a forum vs. forum type thing...we've tried this but it never got off the ground. So no raiding forum.

Surodats kill attempt on YAWP would not be legal because there are 7+ posts between the one he quoted and the one with the kill attempt. If we were playing, Surodat would have just did a major foul er...frack up and YAWP would now be hunting Surodat as well.

He likely would have been Dragged away in a straight jacket and put in a nice padded cell...as the game goes.

Normally when you make a kill attempt, you have to link to it in the Death Announcements thread during the game. We added a nice twist here, in the DA thread with your link, you can pick three items ...these are used to create a death writeup or Obituary style story.

You need to use your imagination too, no WoW items are allowed, all RL type stuff.

We've had:

Chocolate Cake, Spray Cans, Q-Tips, Flame Throwers, Matches, High Powered Sniper Rifles, Cars, Buses, Trains Garbage Cans, Toothpicks, ...you name it. The point id to randomly pick three items of your choice and the writer creates an interesting story and uses those items in the story...with some interesting outcomes.

[ahhdamm]

can you post a kill post off a kill post?

say my guy killed his guy. can i then kill my guy with his kill post?

[Your Average WoW Player]

Rule 2 talks about that. Negative.

[Maticus]

This looks like fun, go ahead! Don't include me though, I wish I could spend time hunting down my assassin but I can't :(

[Gorny]

This looks like fun, go ahead! Don't include me though, I wish I could spend time hunting down my assassin but I can't :(

Ok then, thanks.

I have a concern or two and will PM you shortly.


Edit: Not going to PM.

I'm at work now and even though I can post and reply, I cand cut and paste or post links... It's a harder to do with the outdated browsers we're stuck with.


I need someone to post a signup thread titled Forum Assassin Signup. In it cut and paste the rules that are in this thread and add a link to this thread, I'll make amends and changes via posting.

[Gorny]

Ok then, thanks.

I have a concern or two and will PM you shortly.


Edit: Not going to PM.

I'm at work now and even though I can post and reply, I cand cut and paste or post links... It's a harder to do with the outdated browsers we're stuck with.


I need someone to post a signup thread titled Forum Assassin Signup. In it cut and paste the rules that are in this thread and add a link to this thread, I'll make amends and changes via posting.

Edit to the above via PM, the signup thread is posted. Please ask questions here and discuss here. Signup there.

[Ilianis]

Ok. Here's a couple of queries.

1. What happens to the person killed? are they disqualified? or just nothing happens to them?
2. Is this over a weekend period or all week? (not that it matters for me) just wondering, because some people may have more time during the weekend rather than the week.
3. This might be a stupid one, and i've probably not gone over the rules enough xD but, is it 3 'normal' posts (with or without traps) or 3 assassination posts that you have to post during that 24 hour period?

[Gorny]

Ok. Here's a couple of queries.

1. What happens to the person killed? are they disqualified? or just nothing happens to them?
2. Is this over a weekend period or all week? (not that it matters for me) just wondering, because some people may have more time during the weekend rather than the week.
3. This might be a stupid one, and i've probably not gone over the rules enough xD but, is it 3 'normal' posts (with or without traps) or 3 assassination posts that you have to post during that 24 hour period?

1. When killed, the person killed is out of the game. They cannot play anymore until a new game is started.

2. The game runs until there is only one left, this includes weekends, overnight and during the day and inbetween.
3> Please read the rules.

3a. You must post three times in a 24 hour period. A post may be normal, trapped or a kill attempt. Posts made on holy ground do not count towards the three post rule.

[Ilianis]

Ok thanks :D I do come up with stupid questions ;)

[Gorny]

There's another forum game I know and we can play it after this, it's called Mafia... and some of you might know it already.

Mafia is contained in a single thread and has a limited number of slots for signup...its a bloody test of your nerves, and quite fun as you are forced to try to outsmart eash other...who wins?

The Mafia members or the Townies?

[Gorny]

I was digging around looking for an archive of the last few Forum Assassin games we played, and found an internet archive of one of our discussion threads from while we were actually playing...way back in 2004.

The discussion was during the game in one of the safe threads...some real pros talking in there too, it's back from the old days when all the forums were rpg.forums.net:
http://forums.diii.net/showthread.php?t=202241

[Gorny]

Also the Death Announcements Thread from that same game:

http://forums.diii.net/showthread.php?t=202261

Note: If you want to look at the threads that are linked in those posts, you need to change the rpg.forums.net part to forums.diii.net in the links.

Also, Maticus ... would you mind merging this post with the above one?

I can't edit that one anymore and would have just edited in the link to the earlier posting... not meaning to spam here.

[Shellar]

*reads the archived threads*
*takes notes*

poison poison dagger dagger poison poison dagger dagger poison poison dagger dagger... mushroom mushroom!

[Gorny]

That ain't the half of it.... thoose of us that played a few times...became crafty bastards. People feared having to hunt me when I played ...MWAHAHAHAHA!

[Your Average WoW Player]

*reads the archived threads*
*takes notes*

poison poison dagger dagger poison poison dagger dagger poison poison dagger dagger... Mushroom mushroom!

aagh! A booby trap a booby trap abooby ohhhh it's a booby trap!

[Shellar]

Upon further consideration, I decided not to participate, after all, for following reasons:

1) At the current rate, it will take over a month to assemble the required number of players. By that time, initial signees will most likely lose interest in the game.
2) The current level of forum activity (goldselling and "WTS RAF invite" threads notwithstanding) does not provide an adequate amount 'covering traffic' required to conduct this game properly. Playing FA in an enviroment where threads can go unanswered for days is like trying to be stealthy in the middle of a sunlit desert.
3) The potential for disruption/annoyance caused by ubiquitous 'poison dagger' spam is too big to be ignored.

However, if you decide to run a Mafia thread, I'm all for it. :smiley:

[Gorny]

Take note that those last two threads I linked are four years old and that was the second time FA was played. The ruled were tweaked a bit to fix the disruption problem... leading to daggers and traps being hidden in a post so that on reading it, you did not see anything wrong but they were still there.

We even changed the phrases used to Diable specific names to better fit the game with the normal flow of the forum. We can use WoW specific names and a WoW specific kill phrase.

Lastly we really only need 10 to play, once we get atleast 10...I can get it going.

[Sakura Moon]

I'm up for Mafia if you think that'll get a bit more interest.

[Gorny]

Mafia ruleset:

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide

if there is interest, I'll run it.

[Gorny]

For those that were interested in Mafia, there's a signup here:

http://forums.diii.net/showthread.php?t=712698

Ya'll welcome to stop by.

[Sakura Moon]

It's official, you have completely lost it. No cookies for you!

[Gorny]

...and you're sane?