something about china world of warcraft

[wtcwow]

A story of a brazen guild of brazen members playing with people.
More stories will come out as I'm getting more resources.
I believe righteousness, fairness, and justice are the virtues that everyone must have. I want to disclose anything that is against our moral rules. I want to have a polite and fair gaming environment.

Thanks ahhdamm. I'm posting it.

[ahhdamm]

nobodys going to go to your links, and the mods are going to nuke them soon anyway. so if you want anybody to read your stuff, post it don't link it.

[wtcwow]

Puzzle and rumor of how The7 got their FD of Kil'jaeden

This is the official data of Kil'jaeden Top 10:
1. SK Gaming EU-Vek’nilash May 25, 2008
2. Method EU-Sylvanas May 26, 2008
3. Nihilum EU-Magtheridon May 26, 2008
4. Deus Vox US-Laughing Skull May 27, 2008
5. Exodus US-Kel’Thuzad May 29, 2008
6. Last Resort EU-Boulderfist May 29, 2008
7. Inner Sanctum EU-Silvermoon May 30, 2008
8. Premonition US-Alleria May 31, 2008
9. vodka US-Mannoroth May 31, 2008
10. The Seven CN Jun 1, 2008

Puzzle: In the dps meter, no 2 is "MeiYa", a rogue who is not a member of The7. While in the screenshot, "MeiYa" disappeared. Never have this been explained by anyone of The7. See my myspace album "The7" for the pictures.

Rumor: An important prot pally of Stars (top 1 horde guild of CWOW) was said to be a neighbor, or a friend, of Himeko, guild master of The7. In the contest of FD of CWOW, this pally pretended that his Internet connection is unstable. He got disconnected many times. He also had the raid members wait for him 2 hours so he could find a netcafe. This greatly delayed Stars' progress and wasted their energy and spirity. After The7 beat Stars and got the CWOW FD, this pally disappeared and never returned.

The puzzle remains unsolved.
The rumor is not verified.

[wtcwow]

A scandal of guild "The7" of CWOW

"cs_cs", who played a rogue character "Asn" in realm "lie yan feng", posted his experience. This is a summary:

1. Rogue Asn joined guild "The7" raid group U in 08/2008.

2. Warglaive of Azzinoth off-hand dropped on 10/03/2008. Asn was rejected to use his DKP to get the blade. Reason given by group U raid leader "GuoGuoGe" is that Asn is still new in the group. GuoGuoGe promised in front of the whole group that Asn can use his DKP next time. Fact is that Asn's mage toon had been in The7 since Azeroth era.

3. Another Warglaive of Azzinoth off-hand dropped on 12/17/2008. Asn again was rejected to use his DKP. GuoGuoGe broke his words. Without even letting the other raid members to show and use their DKP, GuoGuoGe directly gave the blade to another rogue "TianTian", who just returned from a long afk.

4. Angry with what happened to him, Asn post a complaint message in the forum of The7, asking for fairness and justice.

5. At the next night, Asn was declined to join raid group. He then post his experience to forum "bbs.ngacn.cc" which aims at making CWOW a polite, nice, happy, and fair gaming environment.

6. Two days later, 12/20, "Himeko", guild master of The7, replyed Asn's post in "ngacn". He invented something idiotic:
(1) Asn accumulated his DKP "spitefully". Asn wants to use his DKP for his good, not for the group.
(2) Asn had to be kicked out and his unused DKP will be reimbursed at rate "1DKP=5Gold".
(3) Before anyone blames The7 and Himeko, he/she must announce his/her guild and raid progress to show he/she is superior and his/her guild raid better.
Himeko also claimed something:
(1) Asn didn't have a good morality, which was said to be agreed upon by about 13 members of raid group U.
(2) If Asn is still in The7, I will come online and kick Asn out in person.
(3) If anyone thinks The7 is brazen, yes, we are.

From Himeko's words, we know that The7 and Himeko believe:
(1) morality must be used instead of your work to determine your salary.
(2) if you keep your bank balance or cash ammount high in order to be able to buy something you like, you are spiteful and harmful to the community.
(3) you should not blame O'neal for missing a shoot because you don't play better.

7. Himeko's words were like a bomb in ngacc. Every non-The7 people started blaming The7 and Himeko.

8. A vice guild master "SuKe" was assigned to pacify ngacc and solve the Asn problem. SuKe also invited Asn to join the raid and said the next blade will be Asn's. (It's funny that SuKe also just returned from a long afk and even a lot of The7 members didn't know him)

9. Two days later, Asn was rejected to join raid again. Suke broke his promise, and started attacking Asn's morality.

10. Realizing that he will never get the blade from The7, Asn lowered his objective. He just wanted apologies from Himeko and GuoGuoGe for their insulting words, inapporiate behavior, and depriving Asn of what he should have got. A deadline is set which is 11:59PM, 01/19/2009.

11. 01/21/2009, 00:10 AM, 24 hours and 10 minutes later than the deadline, Himeko posted his apology, very official, like revised from a template.

12. Things could have ended up like this since Asn and ngacc people had all lowered their objective. But, some people always have the ability to surpass your imagination. The last climax came. GuoGuoGe posted his apology 71 minutes later. (I'm not translating the post since there are some culture difference between Chinese and English, and you may not understand the meaning behind the words.). GuoGuoGe's message told people that:
(1) he still believes it is right to break his words.
(2) The7 is only wrong at: not insisting on that Asn's wrong, and taking too long so that now too many people know The7 did something shameless.
(3) Asn's morality is not good. he just didn't want to mention it earlier.
(4) he's high ranked. his apology is a largess.
He finally said "As an old face of The7, I don't want to argue. I just want to say 'fairness lies in people's heart'".
This last sentence made Himeko's official apology totally void. Nobody would take that as an apology.
Again ngacc people felt their intelligence insulted.

Not only GuoGuoGe, Himeko, and Suke came to ngacc and attacked Asn's morality, insulting people's intelligence, but also a few other The7 members threw their profanity, obscenity at Asn and innocent ngacc people. As Himeko claimed "We are brazen".

This is the story of how the top 1 alliance guild of CWOW treated a rogue who had raided for them for 4 months.

[Gorny]

No thanks.

China is too communistic and backwards, the country needs to start caring about its people and let them live a semi normal life instead of being so restrictive about everything its people are allowed to do.

Communism went out the window a long time ago....

[det]

I am confused by these stories

[wtcwow]

I decided to post these stories because one member of the shameless guild said "we are shameless, we are brazen. so what? people won't know. foreigners won't know. we still have our reputation as the world top 10 FD of Kil'jaeden".
His words really made a lot of people irritated and stunned. I want to show them that the world is a big community. Everyone should be responsible for what they do/say.

[wtcwow]

I know many people don't care, don't understand. It's OK. Don't bother.
I just don't like some people having a good reputation but doing insane things. That's the purpose of this post.

[Gorny]

Honestly, the rep of one of "The top ten world guilds" does not mean anything. I'm not trying to sound mean or rude in any way but thats the way I feel.

We have no way of knowing how the guild in question operater from an ethical point of view. They may be legit and all but they might also benefit from or be part of the goldfarmer/seller nightmare that is mostly based out of China.

If this supposed guild leader acted the way he did, then nothing prevents other guild members from typing /gquit and then forming a new guild without him. Life goes on both in WoW and in RL.

Rapture (Big Drama giuld on Llane, US) fractured because the egos of the guild leaders got too big and Fahrenheit on Llane US followed the exact same path that Rapture did. The officers seem to think they are above everyone and God forbid someone rocks the boat.

Guild drama is everywhere on every server, truth is that it is more so in large raiding guilds rather then in guilds that aresmaller in size or non raid/casual guilds. Most of the rest of the world as it is more or less concerned with whatever is going on on their own home server and some other guild's problem is not much of a concern because it does not affect them or their server at all...unless it's something that becomes legendary overnight like Brion getting owned by his mother for posting on the official boards at 330 AM when he should have bee sleeping.

Some guild in China having drama having problems with it's raid leader or Guild leader?

Not really important to the rest of the world IMHO.

It might have been different if you were a regular member here and were a part of our community, but joining our community for the sole purpose of trying to save your integrity and reputation of your guild with your very first post does not accomplish much at all. If at all, you would be better off posting on the official forum of whatever server you are on as the population of that forum is mostly your server.

What you say and do on that forum affects you much more in game than what you say and do here.

[mesonm]

This is the story of how the top 1 alliance guild of CWOW treated a rogue who had raided for them for 4 months.

Are you the guy that was supposedly wronged?

What motivates you to post this here? What do you hope to accomplish?

[prion]

wtcwow, i think it is fair to say that The7 has no meaningful reputation outside of your own community. For that matter, not even Nihilum has any meaningful reputation to US players. They are just names on some list to most people. A list most of us never even look at.

With the way the game has been changed to make it more inclusive I think it is not long before nobody cares at all.

If the7 is really as bad as you make them out to be, they will end up as a ten-man raiding guild :laugh:

[Xandro]

This may be really rude, I don't mean it to be, but this seems to be the deal:

"Waaah! I didn't get my big shiny computer pixels...err, um, I mean, sword!", "My GM was mean to me!"


Dude, find a new guild and get over it. Do you know how many times a day on any given server this kind of crap happens? You play alongside people in the world who:

1. Use the game to be somebody because they're nobody in their own lives "ooh, I'm in all purples, look at me, I'm special!...hey, are you looking at me?!"

2. People who generally are somebody, but have their priorities so far out of whack it isn't funny.

3. And, this is the big one, 14 year olds and under who play this game and act like jackasses because it's the only place where they can say what they want and have some sort of power.

Just move on, if the guild treats enough people like that, it'll eventually rot away and cease to exist.

[Mazhulsage]

I'm with Gorny... I have been kicked out of two guilds now simply because guild Officers feel they're the kings of the world, and they go on a power trip and boot people for even one disagreement. The point? The guild obviously sucks if a GM is going to allow an officer to go "WTF DOUBLE STANDARDS" on everyone, and that would mean other officers will most likely follow... Therefore, bad guild.

[Shellar]

Who? :ponder:

[Aerath]

Who? :ponder:

Verily. :ponder:

[ptarn]

I haven't got a clue what the OP is saying or trying to say, I didn't understand it at all (beyond the obvious literal meaning of the texts). And frankly, my dear, at this moment I don't give a darn.