Why The Hate For Leveling?

[Maticus]

I saw a post on the official forums recently that questioned people's motivation for levelling:

“So, I've decided that I wanted to level my druid up...

The only problem is, all the motivation has been drained out of me from playing my first max-level character. Whenever I go to start a quest, I think: "Been there, done that..."

Earlier I started a quest, flew to the place I was supposed to kill the mobs at, and thought: "Man, this is so boring"
Then hearthed back to Dal.

What do YOU guys do to motivate yourselves when you level?”

I actually love levelling. I even use the same place every time, despite the fact Blizzard give us many starting zones.

As Alliance, I always make my way to Goldshire and go from there. The only quests I don't enjoy there are the ones that require you to go to the Logging Camp and back to GS... it's such a drag without a mount. Then it's off to Westfall and the inevitable DM runs – which never get tired for me. That instance is awesome, whether it's a proper group, getting a boost or giving one. There's lots of great loot that sets you up for the next 10+ levels. Then I head for Lakeshire, then Duskwood.

For me, the only time I'd need motivation for leveling is if I had a max level of that class already. In TBC I had two level 70 Paladins, but one was Horde which made it a completely different experience again.

I know some people hate leveling and prefer to get to max level asap. I'm the other way around, when I get to max level, I feel the grind just begins; doing the same dailies and instances every day until more content is released. I've done my fair share of raiding and I love it, but leveling is just as much fun IMO. Anyone else agree?

[odinsnephew]

I feel certain areas and/or levels go so quickly and some are just plain bad. Thats what I like - lots of quests to hand in at the same time. When its "go somewhere and kill x, bring back z's head, return halfway across zone to hand in.....oh and could you go back to same place and do something else now please?" I get frustrated easily and go level another one of my many alts. I mainly get a character to x9 level (39+) and stop off for some bg's.

I was playing my alliance Priest just now - shes level 32 - and I find a lot of quests are orange or red to me. I have the Murloch head quest in Hillsbrad - just killed 5 and no heads dropped!! Gave up for a moment and came here. Apt timing of thread Maticus ;) However yesterday I got my shaman up 2 levels yesterday because shes at the right level to fly through most stuff.

My friend on the other hand loves questing and leveling....i'm not so keen and tend to lose interest a lot, but thats the bonus of having many characters.

Edit: Looking forward to getting priest up a couple of levels and hitting Dustwallow marsh - thats been revamped and is very fast to level there as I found out on a few characters recently. WTB boost through Stromgarde quests please lol :)

[Eileithyia]

Im a big fan of leveling, I’ve never been able to get into doing raids due to family and household commitments, currently taking my 4th 70 to 80 now and once that’s done I will pick my little rogue up who’s 63 and plod on to 80.
I might even have another attempt at leveling and alliance toon one day, just hard to start on a side where all my friends are not around for chats and giggles.

[Maticus]

Stromguarde is easy now since they nerfed all the elites in there!

Yeah I find that when you get to a new quest hub and pick up a bunch of quests you can get through levels very quickly, then it kinda drops off and you're left with a couple of quests that you just can't be bothered doing. The good thing now is that with the heirloom shoulders and the XP boost they've given everything, you can skip all the tiresome quests :)

I also had to stop raiding due to 'home' commitments. The few months I spent raiding not long after WotLK came out caused many problems :S

[odinsnephew]

6 more Murlochs killed and no heads! They definitely had heads when charging towards me "Aaaaaughibbrgubugbugrguburgle". Maybe my fire wand burnt their heads off?

Sod that i'm off to Arathi and North-thingy manor kill some syndicate :)

[Aerath]

Honest answer? I really don't care about the starter zones anymore. Not after getting so many chars through them.

However - that's not nearly the worst part. Early on, levels fly past as one ding is closely followed by another. But now, I'm taking my 4th character through Northrend and it is becoming a major drag. I've seen all those zones and seen them quite recently as well. The first time, the reference to a Lupus Pupus Scupus might even have managed a wry wrinkle 'round my lips (though I'm really getting fed up with all the poop and puke quests/references), but it gets mighty old mighty fast by the fourth time. (Frankly, it was by the third time, as I could at least take a few different routes on the second character.)

But, with 1.5mil per level, it takes ages to get anywhere. Especially if you just don't care anymore for the leveling content, there's barely an instance to be had and you just plod through on your way to 80, where the fun might finally start. Can't even fly around, as you need level 77 before you can hop on your hard earned flying mount again.

[Maticus]

Well it'll be a while before I hit Northrend again but yeah, I've been through it 3 times already, not looking forward to it again. However, I've yet to do any quests in Sholazar basin at all! Always skip that one :P

By the way, I find that the last few levels through the 70s take about 6 hours played per level if you get your head down and quest hard, so in theory you could get pretty much over halfway from 70 to 80 over a weekend and do the rest through the week in the evenings. I just try to get to at least 77 with epic flying before you have to do that damn Argent Crusade quest with the plagued soldier >.<

[det]

Depends.

If the guy you mentioned in your original post was only on his second characters, I can't follow that. Maybe around lv 20 the zones merge somewhat, but you can play an orc and an undead and not see the same areas twice up to STV. Guess that is the same for a NE and human on Alliance side. Even around 40-60 and the reduced XP needed, you can now level 2 chars and just do different areas. Skip Silithus on one, skip winterspring on the other etc..

I have 10 characters now, 9 Horde and 1 Alliance. But I do get fed up slightly now as well. Not in Azeroth, but in Outland. 3 lv 80, 5 between 70 and 73, 2 at 62. In Northrend I still like HF and BT, DB is okay, SB is nice because it starts you on Oracles/Frenzyheart.

Not sure if I make it to 80 with all 10...with this amount of toons, it is no surprise some quests are a drag.

[Eido]

I seem to have an affinity for the Dwarves - always have, even in the days of paper'n'pen D&D. I also seem to have inherited the Dwarves dislike of elves too.

Only time I have played something other than a dwarf is when I wanted try a class that wasn't available to the stout race.

So I pretty much ahve the Dwarf starter area off-pat now and can get to 5 and out to IF in no time. The its off to one of the other starter areas to mix it up a bit and get my rep up in time for a mount that is anything but a ram.

What keeps me levelling? The desire to learn how to play a new class and the chance to explore new areas.

I recently volunteered to run as tank on a Sunday night 4-team - all starting off new toons as a Rl friend had just started WoW.

I rolled a Dwarven warrior and to start it lived up to my expectations - dull: run to mob, hit mob, hit mob, hit mob .... hit mob, mob dies; run to mob repeat ad nauseam!

But I had a job to do and continued, and eventually I got to understand the class and its strengths and weaknesses. Now I love my warrior and he is 67. This will be my first toon to 80.

On the way I levelled in areas I had not been to before - Feralas was virgin territory to me.

Now I am riding around Neatherstorm have a wail of a time.

The game is about having fun. Some want to rocket to 80 and play the end content - thats what floats their boat. However, you will find that they are the people who either dont have a good understanding of their class or those that complain that the content is boring.

Me, I always enjoy the ride, the getting there is just an added bonus.

[Alaris Mystique]

Dropped out of WoW because levelling was such a bore for me, and I didn't see myself doing another 40 levels of it on my main. Or another 60-70 per character that I also wanted to play (that's another 3-4 characters * 60-70 levels each).

I normally "enjoy the ride" in games, I don't normally strive to attain max level. In fact, I'm more likely to create new characters and start over. In Diablo 2, I levelled a lot of characters to 60-70, and only one to 90+. I enjoyed the mid-game more than the endgame. In Dungeon Siege 2, I loved making new teams.

But I felt the levelling was too monotonous in WoW. Not a bad game, just... not for me.

[clevins]

because leveling is boring solo. I leveled a second toon to 70 mostly through insacning with friends who were also leveling at the time and that was a nice mix... but if you're mostly doing solo content, it sucks.

When the subject of heroic versions of older raids comes up people point out that the early raid zones suck in comparions to later ones... that TBC was more polished than vanilla and Wrath seems more polished still (though Ulduar is our only new raid really). The same goes for quests. The early quests are poorly laid out, with poor flow and have silly problems like "Get 8 murloc fins" and then you need to kill 30 murlocs to get the fins they all obviously have.

Could you do it at about 6 hours a level if you buckled down? Sure. Does that sound like fun or a chore though? Right...

If you like group play leveling through instancing can be fun. Heck, I ran a 54 hunter friend through Sunken Temple and even that was fun... but soloing to kill thousands of mobs or do quests that aren't well designed when you don't enjoy solo play is, ultimately, boring.

[pearcehart]

I have about 20 toons, 3 level 80s and they go down from there. Most of them are Alliance but I do have a couple of Horde. One is just starting out in Northrend so it is interesting to see the differences in the questing on the Horde side versus the Alliance.

I tend to solo most of the time and have take my lvl 80 hunter through some of the old world dungeons alone. I am a super casual player. I am interested in doing the Outland and Northrend instances but all the LFM's say that you have to be "geared" and "know the instance." Well, since I haven't done the instances, I ain't geared and I am not a hard core raider so I don't spend hours studying diagrams and strategies for each dungeon. I just want to have fun. Oh and I hate PvP. I hate the BGs. I find PvP chaotic, confusing and erratic. I can't mouse-turn very well and I don't do a lot of jumping around.

So, I have started toons for all the classes and the ones L like to play are the ones I level. Love my druid and DK, as well as lvl 80 warrior. I am leveling a pally now and so far, I am liking the way it plays. I don't like the warlocks. I just have personal moral and emotional issues with demonology and such. I am interested in the mage class but find it hard to level solo.

I am also hoping to try out all the professions. Enchanting and jewelcrafting turned out to be a disappointment. I don't like sitting in one place for hours hawking my wares, so to speak, which enchanting and JC require. Same with inscription. Love the secondaries! I am eager to try engineering and blacksmithing.

I kind of rotate through all my toons but when I am having fun with a character, I play the heck out of it. My druid is lvl 73 now and I play her strictly as a cat. I hope to do the dual-spec thing so I can learn how to heal so maybe I can finally see some endgame stuff.

So, I don't mind leveling as it gives me a chance to learn each class and it's strengths and weaknesses.

[solidshot]

As said above lvling solo gets very tedious after a while especially when you have done those zones numerous times before, the old world now on just about any server is like a morgue so finding a group is nearly impossible and when you do find one you can guarantee there's gonna be at least on tard in it :banghead:

[Maticus]

I like to do instances while leveling too, it really does slice through the XP.

I normally find groups or get boosts to the Deadmines about 5 times through levels 16-20 until I have all the gear I want, then I do the same with the Stockades. After that it's SFK (horrible long run from Ironforge though), then into SM at the earliest chance - around level 29/30. I go there until at least 38/40 depending on what gear I need from there and if I get it or not.

After SM, there's a bit of a lull and I have to chain quest again until I can get into BRD. A couple of runs through there (usually boosts from a friend) gets me into LBRS/UBRS, which always starts off an obsession to get the full Tier 0.5 set (only managed it once, on my main) then my fave place in vanilla - Schollo!

Once I hit 58 I'm into Outland and run Ramps / BF until I'm around level 62, then I lay off the instances because there's so many quests to do in Outland and I only need 6 levels until I can go to Northrend. Once I get there I run UK or Nexus until level 72/74, and there's such a big choice from then on, it takes me all the rest of the way to 80.

Looking back at that, I think it's safe to say that a large chunk of my leveling time is indeed spent in instances! All the time I'm not in a group or getting a boost I'm questing though :)

[prion]

sometimes its not really levelling itself (tho of course sometimes it is) but other things that might be part of the consideration---the frustration of slowly moving up in your professions, or of not having gold, or not being able to find a group, or of being in fights that you can't win because you don't yet have all the skills you need, or simply not having the epic land mount or flier.

[Aerath]

Yer missing out on two of the best instances, Maticus...

ZF and Mara.

[Maticus]

Yer missing out on two of the best instances, Maticus...

ZF and Mara.

Ahh yes, I'm with you on ZF but I never really liked Mara much. I seem to prefer instances where you have to kill humanoids for some reason.

Anyway, this whole thread has come around and bitten me on the behind; I was happily leveling my Druid tonight, got her to level 33 and I've hit a brick wall. I'm too low for Arathi but too high for Wetlands. I hate STV (not enough humanoids), so where next? Hmm.

[solidshot]

Descolace?

[Aerath]

Alterac Mountains?

3 more levels and you can be off to DWM.

[det]

Anyway, this whole thread has come around and bitten me on the behind; I was happily leveling my Druid tonight, got her to level 33 and I've hit a brick wall. I'm too low for Arathi but too high for Wetlands. I hate STV (not enough humanoids), so where next? Hmm.

Hum...the lowest mobs in Arathi are 31, 32...Ogres and Raptors and Trolls..at least for Horde you have to kill them.

Isn't Southshore somewhat in the early 30s? Surprised me on my Alliance too, because for Horde Hillsbrad is 23-30. Probably that is why we get ganked there so much...

[solidshot]

probably some quest's on the eastern side of Ashenvale that may still be green to you as well?

[Maticus]

I like to stay Eastern Kindoms if I can, Kalimdor is so - barren in comparison. I'm doing some in the Wetlands now, mixed in with some SM runs, that'll get me through :)

[Shellar]

For me, the hardest part about old-fashioned quest-based levelling is the effort to ignore the nagging voice of temptation at the back of my head that tells me: "Stop wasting time - just log a RaF-linked alt of a comparable level from your second accout, a level 80 booster from your third account, and burn straight to 61 in 7 hours through instances". :grin:

[Maticus]

For me, the hardest part about old-fashioned quest-based levelling is the effort to ignore the nagging voice of temptation at the back of my head that tells me: "Stop wasting time - just log a RaF-linked alt of a comparable level from your second accout, a level 80 booster from your third account, and burn straight to 61 in 7 hours through instances". :grin:

Sadly I got my second account before the RAF offer started :< and my finances won't stretch to a 3rd account :wink:

It's still very handy for running my own alts through instances though :)

[prion]

try southshore Maticus the quests there are varied, some in the region are near 30 and others send you up into alterac, so just pick the ones that you can do, in the meantime others send you into arathi and you can start on that.

[SwervinCL]

I actually don't mind leveling. I usually get one toon to max level, then follow it up with another one. I am working on my 3rd 80 right now.

I just wish the lower levels (1-60) didn't take so long. I mean, don't get me wrong. It is a lot faster than it used to be. It still takes a while and there are a lot of zones that I just do not like. I have seen the content soo many times, that is what makes the early leveling boring.

[Wintrow]

Before TBC came out I had alt-itis very bad. After a culling I still ended up with about 20. Needless to say my main wasn't getting anywhere.

I was around 50 trying to do BRD then TBC hit. I purchased it when I hit L57, portalled to Shatt, stealthed to HFP and levelled to L58 in a single sitting killing bores and vultures (those in The Bone Wastes make an excellent grindloop).

From then on I started losing interest in leveling my alts since TBC content was far superior compared to Classic (best example is my L30 mage that suddenly levelled to L40+ when Dustwallow Marsh was revamped and then faded into obscurity again when he got to Taranis).

Generally speaking when I DO play an alt (My lock jumped from 25 to 35 recently) I try and play in zones I've never really done before. With the aforementioned lock it was the first time I REALLY paid attention to Duskwood.

And yes, I hated the "run all the way across the zone, kill something, run back only to be sent aaaaaall the way back again, ... several times in a row!"-questline.

Next char in Northrend will do the Borean Tundra side of things, Crystalsong Forest is also untouched as of yet. I dinged L79 w/o doing more than 3 quests in Icecrown. So that's also something to look forward to.

[clevins]

Icecrown has some amazing questlines. The use of phasing is great (though annoying in a couple of spots since only ppl on the same phase can help you). Cyrstalsong has nothing really. I have to think it's a zone that will see development. Oh and if you didn't hit Frosthold in Storm Peaks, do... there's a nice lore based questline that's much fun there.

[Janfader]

I've played Final Fantasy 1 for NES 1000 times and beat it with four white mages... That's my motivation for levelling up any other toon in any other game. If ANYONE has play FF1 with x4 white mages they'll tell you its a breeze for levelling WoW characters!!!

[Manaru]

I have 2 level 80's atm. (Arms warrior and elemental/healing shaman)
Hunter at 72, DK at 70, Priest at 62..

And still i started leveling a mage...i just love to go through all the old zones and try to find quests i never done before.
Sometimes i find some, most of the time i don't, but i don't care.
I plan on getting all my horde toons to 80. My mage is halfway now.
It takes a few levels, but then i just start to love a character and i want to get them to the last level.

[Maticus]

I actually find nothing motivates me to level more than a friend leveling a character at the same time. I absolutely HAVE to beat people when it comes to levelling :P

Thing is, I work full time and have commitments at home these days, and so many people who play WoW don't, so it's quite a challenge to keep up sometimes.

[rgirty]

I find this thread pretty interesting, and something this site does not have is some sort of rule of thumb leveling guide.

For the first time I am truly leveling up an alt. A mage because I love the class.

The biggest challenges to me so far are mana regen and where to go next? I seem to spend a lot of time drinking, until I hit 20 for the evo glyph and finally obtained 2 of the boa trinkets that refund mana and things do not seem to be as bad.

My path so far has been Goldshire>westfall>redridge.... I'm 22 now, and it seems that I have a quest sending me to darkshire, so apparently that is the next zone I need to quest in.

I'd like to do STV and Hillsbrad, but not sure what level they are? I wasn't able to quest in those zones on my initial char because I was on a pvp server and priest solo questing didn't work out real well in those zones at that time.

So, if anyone has a suggested leveling path, please provide it!

I'm thinking for me (alliance) Goldshire>westfall>redridge>duskwood>stv/hillsbrad?>tanaris>arathai>hinterlands....

Not sure where to go after that, or if there is a better path I missed, i'm also trying to level up mining at the same time.

Someone mentioned dustwallow (sp?) marsh as a quest hub that was inserted into the game after I leveled the first go round. Where is that area and what level is it?

[Aerath]

STV isn't too bad on a PvE server. It's okay on a PvP server if yer smart about it or enjoy world PvP a lot (read: you've got an epic 80 on standby).

Tanaris is level 42+
STV should keep you from 30-37 fairly easily, possibly even all the way to 40. Hillsbrad / Arathi are low 30s. Alterac Mountains level 37ish.

Dustwallow Marsh is pretty good now as stopgap from 37-42 and it's only a minor trip from there to Tanaris. You could even do the Saltflats racing quests slightly before DWM. You'll find DWM (or, Theramore) by taking the boat from Menethil Harbour.

Hinterlands is roughly equal to Tanaris, so mostly a matter of preference.

[Maticus]

I normally do this - with instances whenever possible:

Goldshire>Westfall>Redridge>Duskwood>Hillsbrad>Arathi>Hinterlands>Tanaris>Felwood>WPL>Hellfire Peninsula>Zangermarsh>Terrokar Forest>Nagrand>BEM>Howling Fjord>Borean Tundra>Dragonblight>Grizzly Hills>Zul'Drak>Icecrown.

However, it really does depend on how many instances I do, because sometimes, like right now with my current alt, I've found myself in an awkward situation where I've done all the quests in a zone but I'm not high enough for the next one on my list.

Hate STV because I 'grew up' on a PVP server and I'm mentally scarred from that zone, and although the new area in DWM is good and the quests are more inventive because they added it later and put more thought into it, it takes a long time to run to the quest hub through highish level mobs, and that puts me off too.

Meh, I'm a lazy leveler!

[clevins]

I personally hate Westfall so when I'm ready to do those levels, I go to Auberdine. I like the quests in Darkshore and it's easy to get there now (not like when I ran the length of Wetlands at 13....)

[Your Average WoW Player]

One of the things that makes it hard for me to level up alts is the fact that I've had my main, and when killing random mobs in the world, I can own them. Pretty easily. Hell, sometimes I can bring down a mob before they can even get into melee range on me, just depends on how lucky I am with crits.

I can't do that with a brand new lowbie character.

[Maticus]

I personally hate Westfall so when I'm ready to do those levels, I go to Auberdine. I like the quests in Darkshore and it's easy to get there now (not like when I ran the length of Wetlands at 13....)

I like Westfall because it's mainly humanoids that you have to kill, and there's the Deadmines quests, loads of them if you go to the Dwarven quarter in SW and pick them up, which gives you a couple of levels in XP alone :blush:

[Eileithyia]

Normally I love leveling, but I took a break from playing and since I returned all my guild mates and closest friends in game have quit playing and my guild disbanded. /cry
I’m just finding the grind very boring now, I used to love chatting away while questing in auto mode, I’ve joined a few guilds but the lack of chat in them and having no connections with members is horrible. Think it’s time to stock my mage up with some spending money and have a holiday to another realm, see if I can find a spark of fun again.

[Manaru]

I did the same with my alliance characters, transferred them from PvP to PvE, leveling went much faster.

Yet now i am playing again on an RP-PvP server with my Horde chars, my mage is almost 46(made 5 levels in 1 day).
I tried to avoid STV, but did the nesingwary quests, just for the achievement, but somehow level 80's just smell a low level there.

I prefer to solo quests, but if i find all the quests for an instance i do the instance just 1 time.
Mainly because it takes ages to find a group...i can get boosts, but that takes away some of the fun and learning your character.
And that is what leveling is about, learning the class you play, sure solo play can teach a lot, but groups teach you so much more.

[Maticus]

...but somehow level 80's just smell a low level there.


...And that is what leveling is about, learning the class you play, sure solo play can teach a lot, but groups teach you so much more.

These things are so true :grin:

[odinsnephew]

I'm going to get stamped on for saying this.....but I do wish there was some kind of leveling through PvP for the lower levels to say.......level 60. I would prefer to level that way if I could. I would have 80's of all classes already :grin:

I might even level all my PvP characters a bit more :)

[Maticus]

Why would you get stamped on? Lots of people would love to be able to level up through PvP. Blizzard even said they are considering how to do it, low level daily quests for BGs and some sort of honor/experience link thing, they were both mentioned.

[odinsnephew]

Why would you get stamped on? Lots of people would love to be able to level up through PvP. Blizzard even said they are considering how to do it, low level daily quests for BGs and some sort of honor/experience link thing, they were both mentioned.

Oh i'm just foreseeing the "twink" debate. I have PvP characters in all brackets 39 and above. I love PvP. Some of my characters are *not* so-called twinks, just well geared, which makes it all the better to kill one :)

Would I level them through PvP if I could? Probably yes......although on the flip side I see so many 80's hanging around doing nothing....it kind of puts me off.

[rgirty]

You see a lot of people at 80 doing what seems to be nothing because they are probably prepping for a raid, or in a city doing business. I think the latest statistics show a good % of the player base at 80.

I'll most likely pursue darkshire, then stv or hillsbrad because i never was able to quest there on the pvp server and i hear that stv especially is awesome for questing.

[Aerath]

I'm going to get stamped on for saying this.....but I do wish there was some kind of leveling through PvP for the lower levels to say.......level 60. I would prefer to level that way if I could. I would have 80's of all classes already :grin:

I might even level all my PvP characters a bit more :)

If you're serious about it, you can do it already. Daily PvP quest gives honour, exp and money. I've taken a hunter from 47 to 49 doing nothing but those. I've taken a rogue from 35 to 38 with those.

[clevins]

I think he wants XP for the kills too, which I would like. But I really want the XP all the way to 80. I only have the one 80 because I just can't bear the thought of questing another 10 million XP.

[odinsnephew]

If you're serious about it, you can do it already. Daily PvP quest gives honour, exp and money. I've taken a hunter from 47 to 49 doing nothing but those. I've taken a rogue from 35 to 38 with those.

I have done the same with most of my characters also. The xp gain equates to approx a bar and a half I think and certainly worth doing, but I wish there were more quests to do or as Clevins said maybe xp from kills. I'm not sure how the latter could be implemented - maybe a tick box in the PvP tab to opt in/out of xp gains? Then the twinks could stay as they are and others like myself could level the way they like.

[prion]

how about an option to turn in your bg marks for xp

[Janfader]

how about an option to turn in your bg marks for xp

It's an interesting thought IMO. I have personally always hated PvP due to the no xp. It's a time waster for me personally. It sure would challenge the PvE community. I can see myself levelling my low level toon.

They could incorperate the BoA stuff or have the high levelled gear available to the low level toons and have it scale upon getting level ups - much like the BoA stuff.

[Aerath]

how about an option to turn in your bg marks for xp

Why not - used to be in place, so I can see them implementing that fairly easily. I particularly like the fact that it wouldn't be forced XP then, but optional.

[Wintrow]

Or if you insist on xp per kill make it an option...?

Like we can enable pvp mode now we could enable "pvp4xp" mode. Your honor per kill then gets turned to xp through a certain formula.

[Janfader]

Or if you insist on xp per kill make it an option...?

Like we can enable pvp mode now we could enable "pvp4xp" mode. Your honor per kill then gets turned to xp through a certain formula.


This is a really good idea. I say the admins make a vote on this across a few WoW sites and see what the communities think. I vote for it for sure!:afro:

[Maticus]

This is a really good idea. I say the admins make a vote on this across a few WoW sites and see what the communities think. I vote for it for sure!:afro:

Sounds like a plan :thumbsup:

[odinsnephew]

Or if you insist on xp per kill make it an option...?

Like we can enable pvp mode now we could enable "pvp4xp" mode. Your honor per kill then gets turned to xp through a certain formula.

Similar things have been mentioned on the last page, but your last sentence - do you mean world PvP or bg's or both? I can foresee a few problems if it was allowed in world PvP :wink:

[sardotirion]

If there were leveling in BG's based on honor, I would be a happy, happy person.

That's not to say I hate leveling, I actually enjoy it. But I hold nothing against anyone who has problems with it because I get... leveling can get very old, very fast.

Still, leveling through BG's is pure win. Pure win.

[Mistro]

I don't play for the endgame. I do run instances, but I'm not a raider. I'm more of a crafter and explorer.

I've got 10 characters on Sisters of Elune, an RP server, Alliance side, and most of them are lvl 20-40 (my main being a lvl 73 gnome fire mage). I play some Tauren on another server as well, but none of my horde characters are over 30. I love the content in Azeroth, but Outland was annoying and tedious, and Northrend is awesome (but also tedious). I'm a big lore junkie, read a few novels, especially loved "War of the Ancients" and I'm looking forward to reading "Arthas". My favorite things to do are parachuting off IF mountain into Menethil harbor (<3 slow fall, watch out for crocodiles), discovering rare/fun recipes, and exploring (that Tauren style camp and empty cave behind Silithus is pretty neat).

My leveling drive is pretty much based on crafting, gathering, and playing a different class. My favorites are Enhancement Shaman, Beastmaster Hunter, and Fire Mage. Most of my characters tend to be Dwarves (4 hunters[!] and a paladin), but I love Night Elves and Gnomes. I usually level in the first two native starting zones, then I travel all over the place. I prefer Darkshore->Ashenvale->Duskwood->STV/Desolace->Dustwallow/STV->Blasted Lands/Tanaris->Felwood/Un’Goro/Feralas->Winterspring/Silithus.