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Old 26-05-2004, 07:53 AM   #1
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The Universe

I found this article very interesting.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5051818/

So whats everyone think about this? I really think the part of seeing the earth in the past is very interesting. Share your thoughts.
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Old 26-05-2004, 08:13 AM   #2
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I found this article very interesting.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5051818/

So whats everyone think about this? I really think the part of seeing the earth in the past is very interesting. Share your thoughts.

I cant image how big 156 billion light years is. But, if the universe ends, what is beyond that? So many thoughts on the subject running through my head right now and I dont know how to put them down. It just... boggles my mind.

That is really cool about the seeing early earth through the hall of mirrors effect. I feel like waving up at the sky right now so if something is watching earth a billion years from now through the hall of mirrors, I can say my hello. And maybe finally someone will see a real live dinosaur. All that is just too cool. Too bad its just a theory at this point, that would be cool to see.
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Old 26-05-2004, 12:38 PM   #3
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My reflections about the universe have brought me to one, simple conclusion.


Everything is casual.


Me, you, the fact that we are writing in a forum, in English, with a keyboard, a monitor, and ten fingers. The words "forum" "monitor" "keyboard" "fingers" themselves are a case too.


The fact that i'm thinking all of this is, too, a mere case.


The sky, the sea, the land, the birds chirping outside my window, the airplane buzzing in the distance, my cat purring on my knees, the very presence of life and thought on earth, and earth itself.......all casual.


I feel sick whenever i think of it.
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Old 26-05-2004, 05:17 PM   #4
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yeah it makes you feel very very very very very very very very very very very small...

also it pretty much tells you that there HAS to be life on another planet because surely somewhere in 156 billion light years of space there is another planet that had the same condtions we did.
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Old 26-05-2004, 05:34 PM   #5
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Very interesting article indeed. I'm glad that the author pointed out time necessarily had a beginning.


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The fact that i'm thinking all of this is, too, a mere case.

I feel sick whenever i think of it.
Out of curiousity, I was wondering where you got the idea that your thinking was another case of causality (I'm assuming you misspelled cause by stating "case").
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Old 26-05-2004, 07:34 PM   #6
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couple of things. ekim, they were saying that the whole 'hall of mirrors' effect was not found. the study attempted to find it by looking at CMB, but the findings suggest that it is not possible.

AoA, i dont think the author pointed out that time neccissarily had a beginning. only that the universe had a beginning. whether time could have started before the universe or not is a question best left to philosophers, and im an engineer (though i do enjoy a good philisophical/psychological discussion).

cheers :drink:
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Old 26-05-2004, 07:39 PM   #7
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My reflections about the universe have brought me to one, simple conclusion.

Everything is casual.

Me, you, the fact that we are writing in a forum, in English, with a keyboard, a monitor, and ten fingers. The words "forum" "monitor" "keyboard" "fingers" themselves are a case too.

The fact that i'm thinking all of this is, too, a mere case.

The sky, the sea, the land, the birds chirping outside my window, the airplane buzzing in the distance, my cat purring on my knees, the very presence of life and thought on earth, and earth itself.......all casual.

I feel sick whenever i think of it.
I have no idea what you just said.
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Old 26-05-2004, 07:43 PM   #8
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what I thought galron was going for was that there was no great importance to anything we do on this planet since the universe is so gigantic and we are so insignificant
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AoA, i dont think the author pointed out that time neccissarily had a beginning. only that the universe had a beginning. whether time could have started before the universe or not is a question best left to philosophers, and im an engineer (though i do enjoy a good philisophical/psychological discussion).

cheers :drink:
The author mentions specifically "the beginning of time". Further, time is a measurement of corporeeal movement, which gives the universe definition. As such, time would have to begin necessarily with matter.
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Old 26-05-2004, 08:52 PM   #10
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couple of things. ekim, they were saying that the whole 'hall of mirrors' effect was not found. the study attempted to find it by looking at CMB, but the findings suggest that it is not possible.
I know. It would be cool to see though.
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