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Ockham's Razor. Used in science for generation after generation, states that the simplist answer is usually the correct one.
For example, in the days of early astronomy the earth-centric astronomers realized that some of the known planets wich were revolving around the planet earth seemed to stop, reverse directions for a short time, then continue. How could this have happened if everything revolved around the earth? They invented an effect.. who's name i currently forget.. in wich orbits were circular but occasionally it would make a smaller loop within its orbit. The calculations still didn't match. So that added loops inside loops untill it matched what they saw. Then someone came along and created a sun-centric solar system in wich all the planets circled the sun. This matched what was observed without the need to add things to the theory. Of course we now know that all the planets revolve around the sun. The simpler theory was correct.
Now, what does all this have to do with the existance/non-existance of God you ask? Well, take occam's razor to these two theories.
A) Out of absolutely nothing, all the matter and energy in the universe erupted and began flying apart and tremendous speeds (in fact current models state that the ealier universe would have had to have expanded at far greater than the speed of light for a hundreth of a millionth of a billionth of a billionth of a second, impossible according to relativity, just a pointless fun fact), and that the laws of physics were just right to allow this matter to slow down and begin to coaless, and that the energy woulld coaless into matter (E=mc squared means mass is just a super concentrated form of energy), the the matter would become muons and gluons, the muons and gluons would become up and down quarks, the up and down quarks would become electrons, protons, and neutrons, those would become atoms, the atoms would become molecules, and the molecules would become stars, planets, and amino acids, and the amino acids would somehow become life, and life would somehow spring you and me.
B) God made it all.
Go ahead. Apply ockham's razor. Wich one comes out on top?
The name is "Ockham", as in William of Ockham. He was a medieval philosopher. He proves nothing, but his assent to simplicity is accurate. Still, if one cannot articulate a position, one does not know it. Thus, topic "B" may be modified if need be to make provision for proper metaphysics.
I think ockhams razor sort of breaks down to the fact that science explains everything and since science follows rules then if you use those rules the answer is relatively simple. Im pretty sure if you were to take ockhams razor to religion it would fall apart rather nicely. I mean whats more likely; that we created religions to explain the uncomprehensible(at the time), or that there are these infinitely powerful deitys out there that want something from us but wont influence us directly except sometimes when they feel like it.
Ockham's Razor really doesn't make that much sense. It really lends itself to incorrect theories. Ockham's Razor upholds, amongst other things, spontaneous generation. Which is simpler?
A) Meat turns into flies.
B) Flies, landing on the meat to feed, lay small eggs in the meat which then turn into maggots, which soon turn into flies.
There's a lot less turning in the first one. We know it's wrong, but Ockham's Razor upholds it. Ockham's Razor also supports things like witch trials and racism... is this drought due to
A) a low pressure system moving in from the north interacting with the sheer sides of the nearby mountain range, or
B) is it simply that witch down the lane?
Is my inability to find employment due to
A) a system of inflation and deflation which is being carefully balanced by the government, or
B) EDITED FOR INFLAMMATORY COMMENT. ELLY
Ockham's Razor isn't the foundation of modern thought by any means. In specific cases it can help clarify a theory, as in your Copernicus example, but it isn't any sort of measure against which all thought can be weighed.
Well we can certainly blame most of the worlds woes on the Jews but personally, I think we can blame the lack of jobs on all those damn Mexicans who come and steal them from nice upstanding Americans.
Well we can certainly blame most of the worlds woes on the Jews but personally, I think we can blame the lack of jobs on all those damn Mexicans who come and steal them from nice upstanding Americans.
Mixed logic. But let's go with the original example with my twist on it if this method was to be trusted.
A) God made it all. He created the universe. He created the planets and the stars. He then created life. He then oversees and watches over every aspect of our lives.
B) Everything just magically appeared one day.
Go ahead. Apply Ockham's razor. Which one comes out on top?
Also try this one Essex...
A) *** people exist. A *** man is a man, but he is a man who loves other men. Instead of following the "natural" order and coupling themselves with members of the opposite sex for the sake of procreation, these people instead couple together with no benifit for procreation.
A) *** people exist. A *** man is a man, but he is a man who loves other men. Instead of following the "natural" order and coupling themselves with members of the opposite sex for the sake of procreation, these people instead couple together with no benifit for procreation.
B) *** people don't exist.
Sorry Essex, but you don't even exist. :lol:
I knew I was feeling sick this morning... that would explain it.
Sorry to say, but this "God" doesn't and will never exist. If you believe in "him" (too bad he's not real...and he's really a girl. Just to smite those damn sexist bastards) soooo much, then why do you keep trying to prove his existence to others? Trying to save them, or are you trying to get them to believe so you don't feel so stupid? Not to mention the bible contradicts itself right in the first area-part-thingy of Genesis. I mean really...Also "God" says it's bad to kill animals then later on "he" goes "BRING ME A SACRIFICE!11!!!111!1111111!!111111!11"
GOD LOVES ALL HIS CHILDREN! YET BEING GAY IS BADDDD!! -.-;
Your told not to believe everything you read when you were growing up. The bible is one you shouldn't believe.
Anyways, yeah. That "theory" (which really isn't a theory at all, to be totaly honest--) really doesn't explain anything. o_o;
It's like saying a pedophile abducted a little girl and took her to his home 'cause it was the simplest place to find him at. (Which, by history of these people, we know they always run far far away somewhere. <___<)
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