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Originally Posted by Kazee
I guess a good place to start would be to compare the last two presidencies, conveniently enough one Democrat (Who liberals say was the best since Kennedy) and one Republican (Who liberals say should... Well, let's just say it's not a pacifistic sentiment.) I will take it from the Liberal point of view since they have the most experience being Anti-Bush.
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I think it's a horrible idea to take it from the liberal's point of view. Sure they're really against Bush but most of them don't have enough of their facts straight to know why (To Eiger, Mastgrr, Essex, and anyone I forgot, I'm not talking about the liberals in this forum, most of you are quite well informed in your hatred of Bush).
None the less I'm bored and I have a few hours until the A's vs. Yankees game so I'll run through this and see what I think.
I may not be a modern liberal but I do hate Bush, so lets see what I can do with this.
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Lemme see, have I got this straight?
Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good...
Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...
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Now I believe both of these to be bad. No bid contracts are always a horrible idea.
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Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good...
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad...
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Clinton did it and managed to balance the budget. Bush has done it and ran a giant deficit. Also while Clinton's one was done with NATO and is for the most part done, Bush's war will cost far more then 87 billion by the time it is completed.
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Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...
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See above. I have no problem with Saddam being gone, but getting stuck in Iraq when we already have a giant deficit and we're already fighting a war against a completely different enemy, Al Qeada, is a bad thing.
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Clinton bombs Serbs on behalf of Albanian 'terrorists' -good...
Bush 'liberates' 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad...
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I don't know much about the Serb incident so I can't comment on it. The second one is good for Iraq if we pull if off. However that doesn't make it good for America.
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Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good...
Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad...
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Actually these should be reversed. Clinton got in a fair amount of trouble for bombing the Chinese embassy. It was one of the low points. Bush bombing the terrorist camps was good.
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Clinton commits felonies while in office - good...
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...
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Clinton committing perjury was bad. No way around that. Bush landing in the aircraft carrier was a publicity stunt. Can't fault a president for wanting a good photo-op.
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Clinton says mass graves in Serbia - good...
Bush believes Entire World when they say WMD in Iraq - bad...
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It was hardly the entire world. Even many people in Bush's cabinet who looked at the information thought it was circumstantial at best.
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No mass graves found in Serbia - good...
No WMD found Iraq - bad...
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Can't comment on the mass graves, as again I don't know much about that conflict. The fact that we haven't found any weapons is bad, though we don't know for sure one way or the other.
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Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good...
Economy slows under Bush - bad...
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The crash was bad. The economy slowing under bush is also bad. Neither candidate had a huge amount of control over either one. Though Bush has more control over the economy now then Clinton had over the stock market.
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Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good...
World Trade Centers fall under Bush - bad...
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Clinton never got a serious offer to take custody of Bin Laden. Bin Laden was never truly captured and so would not allow himself to be taken custody by the US. Bush can't be faulted a huge amount about the WTC falling but he did step down Clinton's efforts to hunt Bin Laden. Of course Clinton's efforts were mostly hurt by the idiot getting a blow job by an intern and then lying about it under oath.
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Clinton says Saddam has nukes - good...
Bush says Saddam has nukes - bad...
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I didn't hear about clinton's quote so I can't comment. If he did it with the same lack of evidence that Bush had then that would be bad as well.
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Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...
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Here it's all about technique. Clinton called for regime change while in office but they were pursuing plans to get Saddam overthrown by his own people (which was unlikely). Bush actually invaded and took over the country. Now what?
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Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good...
Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...
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Well clinton tried to destroy the camps. However he got flack from those everyone when he did because it was assumed that it was a 'Wag the Dog' style misdirection from his domestic problems.
Bush destroyed the camps but then he left and the camps are back.
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Milosevic not yet convicted - good...
Saddam turned over for trial - bad...
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Saddam being turned over for trail was good but the fact that he's being prosecuted under a US appointed government makes it process look bad.
Milosevic isn't convicted yet. He will be.
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Ah, it's so confusing. I hope someone can help me.
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It is confusing. I have tried my best, but of course this sentence was sarcastic.
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