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Old 06-11-2004, 05:58 AM   #1
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Truth

This thread is open-ended, intended to discuss something that seems to be just as important as questions like 'What is life?'.

What is truth? Is there an absolute truth? How is truth established?

I am a Christian, so my absolute truth is the Bible, but what do you all think? If you don't have an absolute truth, how does that affect your outlook on life?
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Old 06-11-2004, 06:17 AM   #2
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Absolute truths exist at the highest level, so they need not exist inside the universe if there's multiple universes or anything at all outside the universe.

Can all absolute truths be discovered? Only if the universe is the highest level, since no human can completely understand anything beyond the universe since we cannot percieve it.

So, no I don't consider any text to contain all absolute truths, if any at all.

How does having no belief that I know the absolute truth effect myself? It doesn't. My morals are derived from religion (mainly christianity I'd think) because of what my family believes. Osmosis :)
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Old 06-11-2004, 06:29 AM   #3
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I am a Christian, so my absolute truth is the Bible, but what do you all think? If you don't have an absolute truth, how does that affect your outlook on life?
It's hard for me to believe in one absolute truth, but I strive to live by the mantra that all people deserve respect, as the world around us.
I think the golen rule is still the golden rule.
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Old 06-11-2004, 05:02 PM   #4
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Absolute truths exist at the highest level, so they need not exist inside the universe if there's multiple universes or anything at all outside the universe.


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Can all absolute truths be discovered? Only if the universe is the highest level, since no human can completely understand anything beyond the universe since we cannot percieve it.

So, no I don't consider any text to contain all absolute truths, if any at all.
Didn't this small paragraph attempt to demonstrate the absolute truth that no texts could contain absolute truths? :uhhuh:

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How does having no belief that I know the absolute truth effect myself? It doesn't. My morals are derived from religion (mainly christianity I'd think) because of what my family believes. Osmosis :)
A person's understanding of reality has no bearing reality.
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Old 06-11-2004, 05:18 PM   #5
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|2| + |2| = |4|

that looks like truth to me, unless it's an illusion created by the flawed human mind O_o
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Old 06-11-2004, 05:43 PM   #6
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Didn't this small paragraph attempt to demonstrate the absolute truth that no texts could contain absolute truths?
Huh? I already stated that absolute truths can exist.

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A person's understanding of reality has no bearing [on] reality.
I'd guess that's what you ment to say, but I still don't see what this matters.
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Old 06-11-2004, 06:37 PM   #7
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Truth is subjective..as is reality
One can only have personal honesty.
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Old 06-11-2004, 06:42 PM   #8
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"You want answers?!"
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Old 06-11-2004, 06:48 PM   #9
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"Self assessment is universal truth." *winks* oh crap i have something in my eye !! *starts with an uncontrollable wink*
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Old 07-11-2004, 03:32 AM   #10
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Huh? I already stated that absolute truths can exist.
Yes you did, which is progress. 2 months ago you wouldn't dare say anything like that - you sounded as foolish as the poster below you with the girly face saying everything is relative and only opinions matter. Yet, there's work to be done in that you proceeded to blab forth unintelligible drivel regarding "inside and outside the universe", and some other inexorably redundant conjexture regarding "levels". I hope you can make sense of it.
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