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Old 07-01-2005, 02:09 PM   #1
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Ways to increase ppl that play horde characters..

As most of you already know , the ratio of the amount of players playing with horde character to that playing with alliance ones is sthing 1 to 8.
( numbers may vary depending on the source of info and of course the server, but in most cases it fluctuates between 1:6 to 1:12 !!! )

I find this to be totally annoying , not to mention that it constitutes a huge threat for the future of the game.

I can definitely think some reasons for that.
One is rather obvious and it is nothing else than young kids or immature ppl that just love playing with the good guys or the coolest and best looking characters in the game. ( perhaps that is why NE are everywhere).

I would also like to point out some other reasons as well
1) Horde character models just SUCK. Even orcs, that I expected to be the most popular and "coolest" race in the game - mostly due to their main "starring" role and heroic/noble presentation at WC 3 - are very badly drawn. Not to mention undead or tauren.
2) The Horde major cities are pathetic looking compared to the majestic architectural buildings of IF or SW.

What do you guys think are the reasons for this bad ratio?
What are your suggestion to fix this and not have sthing like 1 :20 ) horde : alliance)players by next summer.

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Old 07-01-2005, 03:52 PM   #2
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Reposting because above message is in trouble





As most of you already know , the ratio of the amount of players playing with horde character to that playing with alliance ones is sthing 1 to 8.
( numbers may vary depending on the source of info and of course the server, but in most cases it fluctuates between 1:6 to 1:12 !!! )

I find this to be totally annoying , not to mention that it constitutes a huge threat for the future of the game.

I can definitely think some reasons for that.
One is rather obvious and it is nothing else than young kids or immature ppl that just love playing with the good guys or the coolest and best looking characters in the game. ( perhaps that is why NE are everywhere).

I would also like to point out some other reasons as well
1) Horde character models just SUCK. Even orcs, that I expected to be the most popular and "coolest" race in the game - mostly due to their main "starring" role and heroic/noble presentation at WC 3 - are very badly drawn. Not to mention undead or tauren.
2) The Horde major cities are pathetic looking compared to the majestic architectural buildings of IF or SW.

What do you guys think are the reasons for this bad ratio?
What are your suggestion to fix this and not have sthing like 1 :20 ) horde : alliance)players by next summer.
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Old 08-01-2005, 02:14 PM   #3
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1- you're figures are way off. If my source is right (http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census...ervertypeid=-1) it should be:

Total Alliance:
375,462

Total Horde:
212,995

This is far from a catastrophy, although some servers might be much more un-even. In fact, alot of people like playing the underdog and for them this as good as it gets.

2- About the models, everyone has different tastes. I'd say that the worst models are the male humans, male elf and female dwarf. To me, they are completely out of the question, while all horde models are good to great, the female undead, male tauren and female troll occupying the top positions.

3-Citywise I'd say that the elves have the most boring city and land, but that's just me.

Basically, you can't please all, and there are ALOT of people who are not at all bothered by the apparent un-balance when it comes to server population. A much more imporant issue would be the imbalances in PvP that would stem from some races having better racial skills than others, and this is a much bigger issue since it is only in PvP that population balances really matter. In PvE I'd rather play with the small faction so you don't need to compete for spawns as much.

These are my 2c at least.
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:37 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by DrWh0
As most of you already know , the ratio of the amount of players playing with horde character to that playing with alliance ones is sthing 1 to 8.
( numbers may vary depending on the source of info and of course the server, but in most cases it fluctuates between 1:6 to 1:12 !!! )

I find this to be totally annoying , not to mention that it constitutes a huge threat for the future of the game.

I can definitely think some reasons for that.
One is rather obvious and it is nothing else than young kids or immature ppl that just love playing with the good guys or the coolest and best looking characters in the game. ( perhaps that is why NE are everywhere).

I would also like to point out some other reasons as well
1) Horde character models just SUCK. Even orcs, that I expected to be the most popular and "coolest" race in the game - mostly due to their main "starring" role and heroic/noble presentation at WC 3 - are very badly drawn. Not to mention undead or tauren.
2) The Horde major cities are pathetic looking compared to the majestic architectural buildings of IF or SW.

What do you guys think are the reasons for this bad ratio?
What are your suggestion to fix this and not have sthing like 1 :20 ) horde : alliance)players by next summer.
I totally agree with you! It's like everybody is playing Alliance! And it's obviously because the Gnomes are just so cool that everybody wants to play them - so my solution is to move Gnomes over to Horde, that way several hundred thousand players will immediately change faction. People are more likelyto listen your opinion better if you avoid the petty name calling -XaToM

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Old 11-01-2005, 12:53 AM   #5
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I actually played the Alliance because everyone I knew was going to join the Horde. I had no idea that the Alliance would end up getting the Player Advantage until I was already well into the game.
I would like to switch over, but my character's almost level 60 and I'm wary of having to start over completely from scratch. I'm hoping that as the game continues, the servers will even out, but who knows.
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Old 11-01-2005, 05:38 PM   #6
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The issue that i brought up at this thread has already been discussed a number of times at the official forum.
Check the following link
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...ns&T=53447&P=1 .
I agree in most of the issues that are adressed at the first post.

Someone questioned the validity of the numbers and ratio stated .
Perhaps the numbers stated above are exaggerated but they are not far off
http://www.wowcensus.com/overall_stats.php
1:2 !!!
In some servers the factions are so uneven it is getting ridiculous !!!
http://www.wowcensus.com/realm_stats.php?realm=draenor
http://www.wowcensus.com/realm_stats.php?realm=eredar

Do some research and you ll find that in most servers the faction ratio is 1:2 or 1:3.

It seems that everyone and his dog has created a human/nightelf character.
Those 2 races actually comprise 45% !!!! of the total number of players ( out of 8 races !!!! )

Reasons for that, are so easy to understand ,that it seems weird that blizzard did not see this coming
- Young or immature players ( unlike more RPoriented and older aged ones) enjoy playing with the "good" guys!!!

- Young or immature players ( unlike more RPoriented and older aged ones) , that de facto constitute the majority of MMORG crowd , prefer playing with COOL character. Night elves, that are supposed to be rare, hard to find almost unique forest creatures are the MOST POPULAR race in the whole game!!!!

- Everything that has to do with development is 100 times richer at the alliances faction !!! ( blame blizzard for this )
Whether it is quests , locations, sceneries and eye candy, cities and flight paths, buildings etc
It seems that the devs have spended much more time working on alliance than the horde.

Before WoW was released, i had been expecting a huge horde faction, simply because the Orcs were the starring race of WC3. Orcs got the postlight and actually were presented in a heroic noble way.
I expected that every kid out there would prefer playing Thrall or his valiant friend ( Groll i think or sthing) that gave his life for the horde. Instead of a pink !!! elf or pathetic human ( gnomes and dwarves are cool though :smile4: yet they are the least popular alliance races)
But i was so wrong!!!



What i would like to hear from ppl that actually
a) acknowledge this issue ( and not try to convnince us that there is no issue at all)

b) understand that this unevenness can be hazardous to WoW future and longetivity
( perhaps not now that most players are noobs and low lvl, but think what will happen in a few months, when PvP servers will be flooded with 3:1 alliance players lvl 60 - Or even worse try to predict the game's future if by next year, the overall ratio is 1:4 or 1:5 !!!

offer some suggestions that would make new players play that orc/troll/tauren/undead character instead of another (cool!!! or awesome!!! looking) graceful purple elf rogue or hunter.

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Old 12-01-2005, 09:15 AM   #7
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Suggestions to get more Horde

Well I guess they could...well....hmm.

I don't know, maybe offer monthly subscription discounts to Horde players. :xsmile4:
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:19 PM   #8
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Young or immature players ( unlike more RPoriented and older aged ones) enjoy playing with the "good" guys!!!
I always thought people like that preferred playing the "uber-leet evil people".
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Old 13-01-2005, 12:29 AM   #9
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I always thought people like that preferred playing the "uber-leet evil people".
That is true but unfortunately for the horde there is no uber-leet evil character race. ( uber-leet should look cool as well as being powerful)

Imagine what would happen if there was a "death knight" class ( obviously assigned to human or humanlike race). Every kid out there that has already created
a) a NE hunter or
b) a human paladin ( heh those two races-classes are sthing like 50 % of the alliance !!!)
would love to play a leet Arthas-like character...

If you study stats at the various server statistics sites you ll come to the conclusion that the only thing that keeps Horde numbers high enough are PvP servers.
If it weren't for PvP servers ( that the ratio of All vs horde is sthing like 1.5 :1 ) then horde would be almost gone ( RP and PvE servers ratios are 2-4 : 1 !!!). I guess the hardcore PvP players care little for appealing appearances or trendy character classes and know to appreciate racial characteristics or skills that give em some advantage at PvPing.


Imo the two most important issues that should be addressed by blizzard ( obvioulsy after they complete the battlegrounds or other cool projects) are
1) Faction balance !!! ( ppl should realise that unenevenness of the 2 factions will eventually lead to the death of WoW. Many other MMORGS have been demolished cuz of the same reason)

2) Class and Race balance ( if half of WoW population are Human Paladins and NE hunters then for sure there is sthing wrong with other races and classes)
I do not expect a 50:50 horde/alliance ration, neither a 11.1 % percentage for each of the 9 classes. But if hunters and paladins comprise over 50% of a faction then sthing is not working right !!!

3) Apperance customising and better looking horde models.
Whether we like it or not, graphics are not WoW's strongest feature. Cartoon like models taken straight out of WC might be a cool idea but for sure, but it detracts from the realism of the game.
In addition to this , Wow has the worst customisation options in all the recent mmorgs out there and, in some cases, worse than mmorgs that are 2-3 years old.
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Old 22-01-2005, 09:33 PM   #10
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I can definitely think some reasons for that.
One is rather obvious and it is nothing else than young kids or immature ppl that just love playing with the good guys or the coolest and best looking characters in the game. ( perhaps that is why NE are everywhere).

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Imagine what would happen if there was a "death knight" class ( obviously assigned to human or humanlike race). Every kid out there that has already created
a) a NE hunter or
b) a human paladin ( heh those two races-classes are sthing like 50 % of the alliance !!!)
would love to play a leet Arthas-like character...



Not everone who wants to play a NE or human is immature. i like elves, weither they be from LOTR, WoW and so on. i just like them. there is nothing wrong with prefering something over something else! if you are going to say that all who like NE and humans are immature, and everyone didnt want to be "immature", there would be none of these races. You cant judge someone by the race they play! as i said above, not everyone who plays NE or Human is immature.

P.S no flame intended, just my opinion
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