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Hi all,
I usually duo with my wife on a highpop pvp server, me as an of now 41 shadow priest and my better half as a 39 feral druid. Obviously we have quite ok pvp capability as a team, but my usualy timid wife has turned out to be one mean ingame mother. She's totally dedicated to the "If its red, its dead"-school and have no scruples what so ever.
For my own part I have a bit more self-morale; no killing of people more than 5 lvls below us, no killing of drinking enemies or opponents with very low life/mana, no camping etc. Just your plain humanistic playstyle, do unto others and so on.
I try to impose my ganking ethics on my wife. Usually, not always, she let off the kills with mumbleings about "..but hes a gnome, lets just friggin eat him...".
So, am I really a fairplaying mature wower as I would like to think, or Teh Whimp Carebear n00b L00ser!!!11!11?
Do you have a ganking ethic or do you attack everythink on sight?
Hi all,
I usually duo with my wife on a highpop shadow priest and my better half a 39 feral druid. She's totally dedicated and have no scruples what so ever.
Do you have ethic?
I hope you don't mind I just flipped around few words. I couldn't help my self. I usually duo with my wife too.
On the topic: Well, my advise to you. Do not piss of you wife as she seems to be a scary one.
I don't play PvP, but on PvE servers I usally help the opposite faction and I hate dueling with passion.
IMHO having some rules and a moral code wouldn't hurt, even if all around don't follow. If nothing else, you'll have the feeling of keeping your head above the mud.
IMHO, there's really no such thing as "ganking ethics". If you're ganking, it already means that you're doing something bad by defenition (i.e. killing someone with low health/mana, someone fighting a mob, someone considerably lower level than you, etc). Every player looks differently on PvP with the opposite faction, much like you and your wife, but on a PvP server anything goes. Some people like to help out members of the opposite faction in distress, and some people will corpse camp someone 20 levels lower than them for 3 hours. If your wife wants to kill Alliance, just let her. The people she's ganking rolled a PvP server and should just have to deal with it. But if you're ganking at level 40, be prepared for whoever you're ganking to bring in their level 60 main char or level 60 guildies and repay the favor.
Personally, I don't believe in ganking. I'll generally leave Horde alone unless I see them trying to gank other Alliance. In this case, there are no rules; I'll kill the ganking Horde even if he's 20 levels lower and at 50% health. If someone decides to corpse camp my alt I won't hesitate to bring in my main char and corpse camp them back, and if someone attacks me when I'm on low health I'll res, wait until they're low on health and gank them back.
But again, each to his own. If your wife ganks every Alliance she sees and has no pangs of guilt about it there's technically nothing wrong with that. Sure, it's not very nice and moral, but ganking is part of playing on a PvP server and it's not considered harrassment or griefing. Some people just don't realize that. True, being ganked is not fun, but people either have to learn to live with it or move to a PvE server. And I say all this after being ganked countless times, corpse camped, ambushed by UD Rogues (hate them :grrr: ), chased acoss half of STV by a level 60 (at level 30) and god knows what else. But I'm still here, and I'm still glad I rolled a PvP server.
xyle: well, a bit of semantic mistake from my side maybe, i wrote ganking when I really mean..eh, smallscale pvp outside BG:s maybe? Its true that ganking ethics is kind of oxymoronic (or just plain moronic ;-) ). I mostly agree with your views, even though my foremost hate object is ?? paladins instead of UD rogues ;-) But as you write, thats the pvp-server lifestyle and I live with it.
streetvision: I don't try to moralise here, the goal is to have fun while playing whichever way one likes, I was just a bit curious about peoples .... smallscale pvp habits.
And lol at your wordflipping Four Fathers. My ball'n'chain isn't really scary irl, but i guess theres a lot of hidden Freudian psychobable here if one would dare to analyse it ;-)
My way: I never go out to a place with the sole purpose of PvP, even though I'm on a PvP server, unless it's for one of the three battlegrounds. However, there is no justification in my eyes to see a member of my faction getting murdered without stepping in to help, even though I might die myself in the process. Other reasons I might go into battle for is resources: if allies occupy a spot I need to grind for a quest and we cannot/will not share the spot, I'll do my best to get them to leave, if I'm not all underpowered. I told a story in one of the threads here about a hunter that a friend and I engaged over some yetis, turning out to a full 10-15 turns in killing each other, so people don't always get the picture...
My view: Sure, I'll admit that the PvP servers are made for open war between the factions and in war all means are allowed. There is a difference in how you view yourself in war though: did you fíght bravely? Honorably? I believe it comes down to everyone to decide where they stand in their conflict with the opposition and then learn to deal with what they become while making that stand. I myself like to play my shaman with a fiery resolve and hold my head high while doing honorable actions, where ganking is not an honorable action.
I'll take out ally's whenever and wherever I find them. If I'm too low then I'll go and get friends, if they're too low then tough. They can be on low health, in the middle of a fight, rez sickness, bandaging or eating/drinking and I'll still take you out. If you're duelling then you're really asking for it, though I'll wait untill you're both fairly low - my aim is to kill you, not work out whether I'm better than you.
I'm a rogue and I'm not meant to be nice, and at the end of the day it's PvP. If you get upset then roll on PvE and play BG or duel everyone in sight.
I won't camp, and I won't grief, but they're the only allowances I'll make. I expect to get the same treatment every time I play, and I have enough alts to keep me going when it's just not my night ;)
Ganking (in the strict sense of the term, not just whacking people that didn't expect it) is mugging defenceless people of their time for your own personal schadenfreude.
You decide the ethics of that.
:chinny:
Now, while I get that temptation, because everyone likes feeling superior for just a quick rush (I like watching NE females scream and twirl in their death throes too), what I don't get is why you would corpse camp. Corpse camping is just you wasting all the time the other guy is by corpse running. It doesn't make any sense. Campers recieve the same punishment the victims did. Campers have issues.
Lewisham: Aggree, even though I haven't really gotten my mind to twist that way, but if I follow your reasoning correctly what you're really saying is that campers gank themself while camping. Autoganking. A comforting though :happy34:
Well, no more forum lurking today, time to go from work and get some gaming done.
I let the opposing member fully heal if fightin mobs
Don't attack players 8 lvls below, unless they attack me when I /dance with them
I try not to kill someone more than 4 times in a day, unless they won't give up
There are exceptions though, such as if someone toggles for me when I'm in their territory, because they are stupid. It's pointless to attack someone that is lvl hidden to you just because I am "THE EVIL HORDE OMG"
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