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I am a mage lvl60. Who is currently looking for a guild to raid with. Most guilds state that they need about 100FR minimum. I've got about 60 and I fail to see how that is not adequate enough. I mean the only thing I'll get hit by is a AoE attack or something like that.
Thoughts?
My guild has a min-100 FR requirment too for ranged classes, it's not unreasonable as on certain bosses you WILL take damage and frankly, why would any guild want to invest time to gear up a mage (who's not going to be topping the DPS charts) while having to dump more heals into him because he didn't get enough FR gear?
I thought 100 FR was hard to get too, so I asked a warrior in my guild how I was supposed to get 100? Just run BRD/UBRS a bunch and hope it drops? Kind of, there's some very easily obtained FR gear, you can reach the breaking point pretty quick.
+10 from bracers off incendius (very easy boss to get to in BRD)
+15 from Magmus Stone [off-hand](also in BRD, think mine dropped off emperor)
+10 from Jed Runewatcher drops Starfire Tiara [helm]
+10 from Vectus drops Skullsmoke pants, scholo (low drop %, might not be worth farming for)
+10 from your DM trinket
+10 from Dragon Rider Boots (off rend, low % but you should be running it enough that you will have a decent chance of seeing them)
+15 from your Onyxia attunement
If you got all these you'd have +80, watch the AH and you can pick up a pair of +10 (or +15) FR rings for 10-25g (or if you're lucky, much less).
I think my cape enchant (+7 FR) was 6g for mats/tip.
You can also toss on some green fire resist gear that you find/buy from AH, yeah you take a stat hit, but if it gets you into the raiding guild, you're going to be gearing up very fast, once you get your foot in the door you'll be good to go. Oh and AD has +5 shoulder enchants.
I am a mage lvl60. Who is currently looking for a guild to raid with. Most guilds state that they need about 100FR minimum. I've got about 60 and I fail to see how that is not adequate enough. I mean the only thing I'll get hit by is a AoE attack or something like that.
And when there's fire aoe or something like that you need fire resist gear. 100 is actually pretty low amount of res but it's something that can be reached with some effort without stepping inside any raid instance.
Yeah, it's a bit over the top sometimes with the FR. I went back from 110 to 90 as a priest. But I can always shield myself if I get into the fire zone. I'd say try to get at least 80. Getting 200 is madness imho.
Some guilds use FR and such as a measuring stick for the dedication of new members. If they can't be bothere to go get the things that you asked for, how much work do you think they'll put in once you accept them? It also shows how well they know their class, look at how much of their normal gear they're willing to sacrifice to get good FR.
As for 100, seems about right for me, especially on raggy where if you don't resist a hit, it can throw every one around you into the lava.
100 isn't too hard to manage since most slots can ofer a large chunk of the FR you need.
Also I should add that most of the more advance guilds understand that there's not much good FR gear around so sooner or later they'll make you some crafted stuff
The fact is you need FR for alot of MC, and while the ranged classes can to an extent get away with less, for 1 as previously mentioned it shows that you're willing to put in the effort and 2 if you're just breaking into MC you need every edge you can get and that 100 FR isn't that hard to get. If you really want to complain think about the tanks that need 200+ or the melee that are generally asked to bring about 200.
The thing is I'm picky.
I have a good mana pool at the moment about 6.5k with just tier 0 stuff pretty much. I'm trying to find FR gear where I won't have to give that much up, of course it's harder to obtain but I'm getting there.
I am a mage lvl60. Who is currently looking for a guild to raid with. Most guilds state that they need about 100FR minimum. I've got about 60 and I fail to see how that is not adequate enough. I mean the only thing I'll get hit by is a AoE attack or something like that.
Thoughts?
Pretty much the only places a ranged class (Mage, Warlock, Healer, Hunter) really needs FR are: MC Lava Packs, Ragnaros, and Vael (and Nef if you triggered Reds :( ). And, guess what, those are fights with a ton of AoE fire damage coming at you.
Everything else that does fire damage (Onyxia, Magmadar, Geddon, the BWL drakes) has either avoidable attacks or damage that can be healed through, so FR isn't as important.
Our goals are 150 FR for casters, 255 FR for tanks, and at least 200 for melee DPS before entering BWL. And, as a BWL healer, I pretty much only wear my full FR gear for Vael, with some moderate FR gear for Nef (in case we get Reds).
Youll find you basically need to run with 2 sets - your normal gear, and your FR gear. At first, your FR set will be highly gimped - relying on greens at points in order to obtain minimum requirements. As you raid, youll find youll be upgrading into gear with FR into it, and also find non-gimped replacements for your FR gear through guild tradeskills and quests (Tidal Loop anyone?).
All youre 'great' gear you have to 'give up' isn't worth anything if youre dead.
FR is really only needed in for a small percentage of MC (some of the later trash pulls, and boss fights), but becomes essential to pass encounters like Vael in BWL.
That said my guild has a 150FR requirement, 200requested, currently working on Vael without our previous alliance. With about two weeks of focus, Ive managed 187 FR in my gimped set. I have about 80 without gimped gear. I also powerleveled engineering to use a Hyper Radiant Flame Reflector (or 2).
Things that might help (in addition to the list above):
FR Libram (~200g), +20 FR enchant
Revered with AD, +5 FR shoulder enchant
MC Quest Chain from Hydraxis, +15 FR ring
Onyxia Scale Cloak, +16 FR cloak (+7/15 FR enchant)
In addition I would check out this site (ad-free) for mage FR Gear :
Things that might help (in addition to the list above):
FR Libram (~200g), +20 FR enchant
Revered with AD, +5 FR shoulder enchant
MC Quest Chain from Hydraxis, +15 FR ring
Onyxia Scale Cloak, +16 FR cloak (+7/15 FR enchant)
Please note that the FR libram can be applied to both head AND legs...so there's 40FR right there.
Honestly, putting together a >100FR suit with halfway decent stats is really not that hard. And as a healer, I'll throw my vote to "yes, you DO need it"
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