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Has anyone else noticed Alliance Wins 90% of AV's and loses 90% of WSG/AB matches? I am not even kidding when i say this, EVERY TIME I get into an AB match...I head to cap LM, and 14 other alliance alllllllllllll sit at the stables the WHOLE TIME. (unless its a pre-made organized bg grp) WTF??!!
Yeah, I understand your frustration, however, once in a while you'll find that magical group that just clicks, and then all your past losses will make this victory that much sweeter.
True. I've had it happen that rank 10 and higher players enter a wsg, try for 3 minutes then when the Horde premade caps the first flag they all go sit in a corner waiting for the Horde to win. So I asked one of them the very obvious "why?" question:
"rofl its a premade"
"Yes, and? I've won vs premades before, don't just give up!"
"its easier to let them win, now go away rp noob"
...
So I singlehandedly tried delaying the Horde, which got me lots of /pat and /cheer and one HK :s
I did my first AB on Tuesday night and we won. We had a leader who people actually listened to and people, including myself, who were happy to sit at a node and defend it.
Last night I did a few more AB's and lost all of them because the idiots (usually high-ranked idiots at that) were intent on doing lemming rushes against the horde-controlled stables, being wiped out piecemeal and coming back for more.
I sat at the gold mine all game and defended it. It was the only node in our possession 90% of the time.
In order to win AB you gotta have a good group which I find a couple times a night if I play for like 6 hrs. besides that all you gotta do is control three BS, LM and ST imho. Then protect.... When they zerg a base (overload pretty much the whole team on one base) you do an organized rotation to one of their bases and assault right back.... they come back to defend, another rotation to get ur old base back. Sit and hold theirs for as long as possible cause ur gonna get pwned, spawn at ur base again and u still have 3 to their 2.... and thats a W everytime. (if everyone listens that is)
In order to win AB you gotta have a good group which I find a couple times a night if I play for like 6 hrs. besides that all you gotta do is control three BS, LM and ST imho. Then protect.... When they zerg a base (overload pretty much the whole team on one base) you do an organized rotation to one of their bases and assault right back.... they come back to defend, another rotation to get ur old base back. Sit and hold theirs for as long as possible cause ur gonna get pwned, spawn at ur base again and u still have 3 to their 2.... and thats a W everytime. (if everyone listens that is)
Blacksmith is nice, because it speeds up your travel... but on my battlegroup the horde seem obsessed with it. So in most of my successful games recently we've ignored the BS, and just held the stables, mill & mine (and once, amusingly, the farm...!).
IMHO the mill is a little nicer than the mine because once you have it it provides a rather good viewpoint to see as far as the mine, the 'smith and the stables. Gives advance warning of some attacks :-)
By the way, the reason Alliance wins AV is that the tactics for AV happen to coincide with the uncontrollable desire to zerg everything that Alliance seems to have.
True. I've had it happen that rank 10 and higher players enter a wsg, try for 3 minutes then when the Horde premade caps the first flag they all go sit in a corner waiting for the Horde to win. So I asked one of them the very obvious "why?" question:
"rofl its a premade"
"Yes, and? I've won vs premades before, don't just give up!"
"its easier to let them win, now go away rp noob"
...
So I singlehandedly tried delaying the Horde, which got me lots of /pat and /cheer and one HK :s
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The problem there is that you have a fundamentally different base reason for being in the BG in the first place. From a grinding perspective, it makes no sense at all to delay the loss. You get more rep faster by losing fast than by losing slow. Obviously the guys on your team were not interested in the BG at all, but instead were just grinding rep.
In my battle group, horde is absolutely obsessed with the stables. They will send 12 guys to the stables and lose every other node in the process. Somehow this equates to a good strategy in their minds. It drives me nuts.
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