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I think that there is a good and bad point to the new LFG
good: No spaming chat, less wait for instances/quest and generally easier way to form groups
Bad: Easy ways for ninja's to form and make groups. This will not be a peoblem if maybe blizzard will black list certin players that are known to ninja. For example if someone joins your goup and their name is in black this will mean their a known ninja bewear. In which i belive this will be the way to go, if you get more then 5 valid complaints and the people can prove you ninjaed them the person should be black listed for 2 weeks. In that time if they are cought acting like ninga again the sentence will be moved up to a month and so on...If the player serves his sentence and does not ninja for the 2 weeks he was black listed, he will regain his normal color. However for another 2 weeks he will be on probation, any act of ninja in the 2 week probation will result in a 1 month black list. If people get black listed more then 3 times in a year, I belive they should then be banned buecase they have shown they cannot play fairly.
The bad point has my suggestion in it for how to deal with people who are known ninja's. Please tell me what you think.
The bad point has my suggestion in it for how to deal with people who are known ninja's. Please tell me what you think.
I don't think it will work...What does '5 valid complaints" mean? To whom? You want someone else to police whether you should have clicked 'need' on that robe? You want 5 guildies from a different guild to determine your future use of the tool?
if you get more then 5 valid complaints and the people can prove you ninjaed them the person should be black listed for 2 weeks. In that time if they are cought acting like ninga again the sentence will be moved up to a month and so on...If the player serves his sentence and does not ninja for the 2 weeks he was black listed, he will regain his normal color. However for another 2 weeks he will be on probation, any act of ninja in the 2 week probation will result in a 1 month black list. If people get black listed more then 3 times in a year, I belive they should then be banned buecase they have shown they cannot play fairly.
Don't think your suggestion is viable and, even if it was, I'd want a damn sight less than 5 complaints before he was blacklisted and a much longer period in which he cannot ninja again and a much longer probation.
Ninja-ing is not illegal by Blizzard. Tehrefore they will not take any actions to prevent this....and there is no possible way they are going to take the time to see if the complaints are valid. It would be a huge downfall. If you are getting ganked and a player that could have helped you passed by without helping....there is 5 compliants right there.
Many realms have official Ninja lists on the official forums. Checkthose out, place your problems....or quite complaining and do guild runs. If something gets ninja'd boot them from the guild.
Being a ninja is when somebody takes an item without giving others the opportunity to roll on it when they might need it.
Classic example: Most groups when doing instance runs do not have Master Looter activated (this is due to BoE greens dropping and not wanting to have to individually roll every time). Most groups have an agreement that if something drops that is Bind on Pickup (so once you have looted you cannot trade to another character) everybody is to Pass on that item instead of Needing or Greeding it. After the fight, everyone who will use the item can roll need on it and the highest roll wins. If nobody needs it, then people roll for a greed and then either loot the item or arrange for somebody in the group to disenchant it. A ninja is somebody who will see an item drop, wait till everybody else has Passed on the item and then roll Greed or Need. As they are the only one that "rolled" when it dropped, they win the item and you cannot do anything about it. It is not fair, but its not against the rules of the game unfortunately, its just very unethical especially when its like a Warrior rolling on a staff that does stats like Intel and Spirit for a caster or rolling on a cloth item they will never use.
I wish that Blizzard could do something about people that act like that, but as you have the option to Master Loot (Blizzards original answer to the issue), if you choose not to, and somebody ninja's something, all I can say is bad luck, make it known to your guild for future reference and possibly report them to their own guild officers who may wish to take action.
Being a ninja is when somebody takes an item without giving others the opportunity to roll on it when they might need it.
Classic example: Most groups when doing instance runs do not have Master Looter activated (this is due to BoE greens dropping and not wanting to have to individually roll every time). Most groups have an agreement that if something drops that is Bind on Pickup (so once you have looted you cannot trade to another character) everybody is to Pass on that item instead of Needing or Greeding it. After the fight, everyone who will use the item can roll need on it and the highest roll wins. If nobody needs it, then people roll for a greed and then either loot the item or arrange for somebody in the group to disenchant it. A ninja is somebody who will see an item drop, wait till everybody else has Passed on the item and then roll Greed or Need. As they are the only one that "rolled" when it dropped, they win the item and you cannot do anything about it. It is not fair, but its not against the rules of the game unfortunately, its just very unethical especially when its like a Warrior rolling on a staff that does stats like Intel and Spirit for a caster or rolling on a cloth item they will never use.
I wish that Blizzard could do something about people that act like that, but as you have the option to Master Loot (Blizzards original answer to the issue), if you choose not to, and somebody ninja's something, all I can say is bad luck, make it known to your guild for future reference and possibly report them to their own guild officers who may wish to take action.
I have never been in a PUG where it has worked that way and I didn't know that was what a ninja is. If I am in a group and a BOP that is no use to me drops I pass it, if the next 3 also pass I would just assume that everyone was ok for the last person to have it.
I have never been in a PUG where it has worked that way and I didn't know that was what a ninja is. If I am in a group and a BOP that is no use to me drops I pass it, if the next 3 also pass I would just assume that everyone was ok for the last person to have it.
BOPS should be DE'ed if they cant be used.....taking it because everybody else passed on it is questionable to some groups...unless it is clear they dont need it. i.e. If i was to run you through WC on my 60 and I passed....its clearly because it is of absolutly no use to me.
Being a ninja is when somebody takes an item without giving others the opportunity to roll on it when they might need it.
This is a classic example of why the system would fail...I'm not sure I define ninja the same way...
If the rule in the raid is 'roll need if you can equip, greed otherwise' and the last person decides they want it for DE and rolls need, while the others rolled greed....the last person is a ninja...IMO.
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