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Old 29-12-2006, 01:44 PM   #1
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One-shotting in TBC - Possible?

I've been on the Official (whining) forums and read in various blue posts that one-shotting won't be possible in TBC due to the increased amount of life, but after doing some math I'm quite sure that mages will still be able to one-shot people, not as easy, but with some luck and planning.

Our 'test' will be done using a mage with 40/21 specc, which I see as max burst potential of mage builds. (I only picked talents that would help with pyro, all the other 1 and 2 spread are just fillers). As mages in current WoW can get ~1000 spell damage with trinkets I've estimated about 1400 spell damge with trinkets in TBC.. I've also guessed about 500int, which is a marginal increase to what I think mages have in live. The spell used is rank 10 Pyroblast which does 939 to 1191, giving 1065 as average. So, let's start the math:

First, the calculation order:
(((BASE+(spldmg*(cast/3.5*1))+int*MindMasterBonus)*PlayingWithFire*CoE*ArcaneInstability*ArcanePower*ImpScorch)*Crit
If we plugin all the numbers we get:
(((1065+(1400*(6/3,5*1))+500*0,25)*1,01*1,1*1,3*1,15)*1,1*1,15)*1,75 =14376,38139~14376


So, a mage will do about 14376 doing a Pyro on a target with CoE and Fire Vulnerability, and that is quite a hefty amount. If there's any part of the math that I've missed or done wrong, please point it out and I'll fix it, this is the order which I think spelldamage is calculated..

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Old 08-01-2007, 07:07 PM   #2
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I think that looks pretty solid. Nice work! It doesn't even seem that unreasonable to do either.....pop a few trinkets, a few scorches, and game over.
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:18 PM   #3
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Currently, I believe the BEST spell damage you can have is 1164. I'd estimate about 1800 in TBC. You can also account for other players adding a bit to you. (i.e. Power Infusion plus 20%)

Soooo....

(((1065+(1800*(6/3,5*1))+500*0,25)*1,01*1,1*1,3*1,15)*1,1*1,15*1.2)*1,7 5 =18865 dmg

Which is more than enough to drop any boss in the game in one hit up to (and possibly including) Maraudon.
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Old 08-01-2007, 09:10 PM   #4
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If you have to have scorches stacked on the target then it's not a one shot now is it?
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Old 08-01-2007, 09:58 PM   #5
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If you have to have scorches stacked on the target then it's not a one shot now is it?
Your such a party pooper.
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:09 PM   #6
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Even without that it'll probably one-drop most bosses.. so shush :P
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:30 PM   #7
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1164 is the limit on + dps? I had no idea my wife's fire mage was doing so well. She's at +420. The only piece of gear she has from any raid instance is the arcanist bindings. I know they are 2nd to dryad's. Also, she does not have any + damage trinkets.

Just off the top of my head I know there are a lot of items that are considerable more + damage than she has. For example if she were to add briarwood reed +29, and the ToA which is 40x5 max use for 200 that would be +229.

229+420= 649 and she's never set foot in aq/zg/mc/bwl or naxx... She's using almost all blues with no damage enchants, just a +30 dmg enchant would ring her up to 679.

I have to think you can go above 1164, or am I missing something here?
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:25 PM   #8
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Well.....maybe not. 1164 is the top out of what I was able to find using a no-no site. I only searched for epics...so there is a good possibility that there are non-epics that have higher +dmg.

BUT +420?!? that is insane for not stepping foor into a raid. If she has a erm....profile.... can you PM it to me? I would love to see how thats possible.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:47 AM   #9
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There's also the instances that aren't finnished yet from what I know.

Looking at how naxx gear is more than double none raid gear, I wouldn't be supprised if sooner or later people hit 2k + damage.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:59 AM   #10
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BUT +420?!? that is insane for not stepping foor into a raid. If she has a erm....profile.... can you PM it to me? I would love to see how thats possible.
Well, i'm a frost mage and have like +350dmg and only have like 3 epics... None of them from raids... (Robe Of Archmage, Sorcerer Gloves and the AV Off-hand) so i believe it's quite possible to have +420 for fire... I do have Briarwood Reed...

Could have better gear just from the BG's with all the GM/HWL equip now on sale...
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