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Old 09-01-2007, 03:15 PM   #1
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alliance - take blacksmith

for all the alliance players out there that have never played horde, you'd laugh at how easy it is to win once you cap BS in AB, on my horde toon (60 shaman - stormscale) instant queue along with a 85-90% win rate in AB, on my alliance toon (60 warlock - Dunemaul) 15-20% win rate and a 9-15 minute Queue time.

And the only thing that I can think of that is different is that horde, will always get BS, which then allows you to recover on attacks quicker at the other nodes, that is the only difference, not that horde have healers who heal, BS, not that alliance have noobs its the simple fact that alliance is ok with taking LM/GM and ST, but Alliance ends up losing LM or GM and then horde can hold them off with there great respawn point @ BS...

It kills me when people argue the point, yet when you get in a premade that is always a main focus, get BS... yet pugs will just complain about no one healing...

You say well just always get a premade, on WSG weekend it is tough to get premades for AB...


cliffnotes- from a person that has been horde and alliance, for the love of god take BS in AB as alliance.
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:53 PM   #2
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I'd consider LM more essential than BS due to it's height, allowing view across a large portion of the battlefield. BS makes the logical next step though.
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Old 09-01-2007, 04:03 PM   #3
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ive won many of battles without having BS, since if your talking about taking bs to win, sounds like the 3-2 base wins.

ive found that having mill farm mine just as easy to support.

have the mobiles ready at farm and you can see were the alliance are going to go from the BS the moment they move.

so for me ive never really saw much significance for the BS in terms of winning or losing.
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:17 PM   #4
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From an alliance pov, I would initially agree that getting BS does provide an advantage but a lot of times it seems that the horde will put a huge priority on taking BS (by sending 7+ people) and so at that point it is usually more worthwhile to attack elsewhere.
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Old 09-01-2007, 07:03 PM   #5
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I used to think that until I started playing horde more.
When the alliance takes the BS, we still win.
So ... not sure why.
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Old 09-01-2007, 07:46 PM   #6
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This brings up a good point though. I think the BS is a slight terrain advantage in the Horde's favor, simply because they can get their faster.

This past weekend was AB and I played a ton. I have carrot on a stick, mithril spurs, riding enchant, epic mount...you name it. And I never once found a route that would allow me to get to the BS before the Horde. I'm literally running into the gate waiting for it to open, and I go striaght to the BS, and there are always 4 to 8 Horde already there, and I get focus fired and killed.

After that happens several times, you go "ok, if there are so many at the BS they are weak somewhere else."

And I've won a lot of games forgetting the BS and defending ST, LM, GM.

When I run pre-made with my guild though, we usually send two to ST and two to LM and the rest to BS. I agree it's an important node.
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Old 09-01-2007, 08:00 PM   #7
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I'd consider LM more essential than BS due to it's height, allowing view across a large portion of the battlefield. BS makes the logical next step though.
I used to think the same thing about LM, however after running about 15 ab's last night of the 8 we won, 7 had us capping the BS early and holding it. Like the op said the spawn point is great. The mine/lm/st combo provides a spawn point issue to be sure. Mine/st/bs is optimal IMO.
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Old 09-01-2007, 08:15 PM   #8
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All the good alliance premades I've faced tend to send the majority of their force to BS then ride straight through to farm to stop us from spawning anywhere near the other nodes that are still being fought over.
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:41 AM   #9
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i havent wont a BG in ages...not at all i think! but ive only played 4 games...yeah us alliance do take quite a beating in WSG and AB or AV? the one where you harvest resources :\
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:13 AM   #10
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My alliance teams allways seem to want the farm, never worked out why.

I don't like having the BS though, spawning at the stables gives you an easy route to the mine, LM and the BS if you really want it.
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