Greed Rolls

[Kursk]

1st time poster.

I've read a lot of the threads on the subject but I'd still want direct input on this :

Is it ok to greed roll on every item. I know the definition of greed but I still see some players passing on some items. I understand when to roll Need... you don't have to explain it to me.

I've been soloing from the beginning and i'll be starting instances soon so I need a little advice. Can someone blame you when you roll greed?

Thanks

[rockhead]

I think you have greed and need mixed up. I was always told to greed and if your going to need you ask.

[SwervinCL]

When there is an item that drops that is BOPU, i will pass if I don't need it/can't use it. Like for instance. If you are a hunter and there is a warrior in your group. And there is a mail chest piece that drops, whats the point of you having it. You cant use it, so whats the point of greeding it?

If its BOE and I could use it on an alt, I would then greed it. Need should only be used if you need it and will use it, but really only matters if its BOPU.

[Icefrost]

Originally Posted by SwervinCL

If you are a hunter and there is a warrior in your group. And there is a mail chest piece that drops, whats the point of you having it. You cant use it, so whats the point of greeding it?

Because you could use the money for selling it and if that warrior really needs it, he is gonna roll need.

[ArTizan]

I don't ask on a need, if I need to equip it and it's better than what I've got then I'll need. If it's worth something and i have space for it then I'll greed, otherwise if it's rubbish I'll pass.

[Theln]

Greed rolls on all items are fine - with the exception of 'Bind On Pickup' items. There are several accepted methods of looting for these:

1. Greed roll on anything you want - ask / tell people if you will roll need.

2. Everyone passes on the item. People then are free to chat about their relative desires for the item and decide who is going to roll need. Then, people who need the item give a /roll into the party channel and the highest roll takes the loot. If no one wants to roll need, anyone can greed roll.

3. Master looter.

Most PUGs (Pick Up Groups... this is the Newcomer Forum, sorry if you know the term - not trying to patronize) use the 'All pass' method, but I have seen the other two used on occasion.

One advantage of the 'All pass' method is that if you win a greed roll and have no way of using the item, someone else in the group can disenchant it for you so you can sell the shard/dust - unless you just want to vendor the item for gold.

Typically in a PUG you should make sure everyone has agreed on the looting scheme at the beginning of the instance - this saves headaches later when you pass on an item you need, thinking that everyone else will also pass.

Short story - greed rolls are always fine, unless you are running in a 'pass on BoP' group.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Icefrost

Because you could use the money for selling it and if that warrior really needs it, he is gonna roll need.

Or use it on another character. So unless it's BoPU, it's ok?

Theln : we posted at the same time. Thanks for the clarification.

[Stumanji]

My 2-cents:

NEED ROLL: Let people know that you're going to roll NEED. I consider it polite. If you don't, people might assume you're a "ninja looter", especially if everyone rolls greed, and you roll last and "need" the item. Just looks bad.

GREED ROLL: Greed roll everything that isn't bind-on-pick-up - unless you can disenchant the item if you can't use it. I'm not an enchanter, so I pass on BOPUs, unless they are better than what I've got and I can use them.

PASS: I pass on items if they can't be used by my class, and someone in the party needs them. Or, if I feel particularly guilty for failing the group earlier in the instance/quest, I'll pass a few items to ease my mind.

[Drakkor]

Theln - well put post - thanks. I have passed when I shouldn't have due to not understanding the whole need/greed process. I mainly end up in PUG's so sometimes this is an issue w/someone "needing" everything and the group blowing up over it. The best groups I've played with set the ground rules up front and Theln's post is right on the money. I will still pass if I can't use and others in group can but they all "greed", I do this if my bags are full or close to it. That way I don't watse time trashing something to make room later if I do "need" something or win a greed roll.
FWIW - I've been playing for about 4 weeks so I'm still a NOOB too.

Being primarily a solo player I'll pass a few items too as a thanks for the invite to the instance.

[SwervinCL]

Originally Posted by Icefrost

Because you could use the money for selling it and if that warrior really needs it, he is gonna roll need.

Your right. Plus if you are an enchanter, you can dissenchant it.